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The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: flilflam ()
Date: May 18, 2010 03:53

Mick Jagger must have consulted this book frequently when he wrote Plundered My Soul, as I have never heard so many overused phrases in my life. I like the melody, the harmonizing, and the ethusiasm and emotion he brings to the song, but the lyrics are terrible and laughable. I counted at least ten overused phrases:

Resting on my laurels
Yard off my pace
I smell rubber
Pretty lips were sealed
Sorry case
Shine that lights up your face
Hard act to follow
Bitter pill to swallow
Trick up my sleeve
Ace in the hole

If there is another Stones song that relies so heavily on trite language, please let me and the rest of us know what that song is.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 18, 2010 04:03

I won't bow down, I won't kow tow!

ok,

Say You Will, Say you will, be mine

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: May 18, 2010 04:18

Quote
treaclefingers
I won't bow down, I won't kow tow!

ok,

Say You Will, Say you will, be mine

Those aren't Stones Songs. They're from Mick's 'look, i'm a chalk drawimng with Yoda ears holding something shiny' album.

[thepowergoats.com]

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: punkfloyd ()
Date: May 18, 2010 04:23

No matter what you say
No matter what you do
I'm lazy as a lion
My body's just for you
Crazy for you
I'm sneaky as a snake
I'm dirty as a dog
I'm rutting like a goat
I'm horny as a hog

Terrifying love

I get these strange strange strange desires
Strange strange strange desires

You're graceful as a bird
My heart is on the wing
You're gentle as a dove

If a humming bird could sing
Crazy for you
You're gunning like a deer
I'm wily as a fox
You're faster than a mare
I'm stronger than an ox

Terrifying love

I get these strange strange strange desires
Strange strange strange desires
Strange strange strange desires

I'm faithful as a swan
I'm darker than a bat
I'm friendly as a bear
And tougher than a rat

No matter what you say
No matter what you do
I'm restless as a cat
All caged up in a zoo

Terrifying love

I get these strange strange strange desires
Strange strange strange desires
Strange strange strange desires

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 18, 2010 04:25

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jamesfdouglas
Quote
treaclefingers
I won't bow down, I won't kow tow!

ok,

Say You Will, Say you will, be mine

Those aren't Stones Songs. They're from Mick's 'look, i'm a chalk drawimng with Yoda ears holding something shiny' album.

OK, not often I laff out loud in front of my computer...you succeeded and thank you.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: punkfloyd ()
Date: May 18, 2010 04:27

Well I never kept a dollar past sunset,
It always burned a hole in my pants.

Never made a school mama happy,
Never blew a second chance, oh no

Always took candy from strangers,
Didn't wanna get me no trade.

Never want to be like papa,
Working for the boss ev'ry night and day.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: gimmelittledrink ()
Date: May 18, 2010 17:34

Most of their best songs are filled with catch phrases. In part, that's what makes them so catchy. Tumbling Dice is a good example.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 18, 2010 17:37

Catch as catch can...or something like that.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: redsock ()
Date: May 18, 2010 17:45

?

I was a butcher cutting up meat
I was a surgeon 'till I start to shake
I was a falling 'till you put on the brakes
I was a pitcher down in a slump
I was a fighter taken for a sucker punch
I was the boxer who can't get in the ring
I was a hooker losing her looks
I was a writer can't write another book
I was all dried up dying to get wet
I was a tycoon drowning in debt

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: Slick ()
Date: May 18, 2010 18:05

better cliches than sharks will cry lol

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: FreeBird ()
Date: May 18, 2010 18:18

I think it's part of the song's essence that it contains so many well-known phrases. As was posted before, it's a bit like Terrifying in that sense.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: Filip020169 ()
Date: May 18, 2010 18:49

...Keep in mind that there ARE people on this planet who DON'T have English as their native language/ mother tongue (gastly & hard to grasp as that may seem to most US- & UK-citizens...) - so the concept of 'overused phrases'/ 'tried language' is a wee bit beside the point in the casse of a band that's selling its material worldwide... I've learned tons of quite original, 'never-heard-before' English words & phrases thanx to (practically all) Stones' albums.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: ThankGod ()
Date: May 18, 2010 19:22

Quote
flilflam
Mick Jagger must have consulted this book frequently when he wrote Plundered My Soul, as I have never heard so many overused phrases in my life. I like the melody, the harmonizing, and the ethusiasm and emotion he brings to the song, but the lyrics are terrible and laughable. I counted at least ten overused phrases:

Resting on my laurels
Yard off my pace
I smell rubber
Pretty lips were sealed
Sorry case
Shine that lights up your face
Hard act to follow
Bitter pill to swallow
Trick up my sleeve
Ace in the hole

If there is another Stones song that relies so heavily on trite language, please let me and the rest of us know what that song is.

Dear oh dear flilflam another poorly thought out thread voicing your objection to Stones lyrics.
You clearly have a weak understanding of lyrics as this thread and your pathetic Sweet Black Angel thread demonstrates very clearly.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: bernardanderson ()
Date: May 18, 2010 19:30

the word "baby".

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: flilflam ()
Date: May 19, 2010 03:55

ThankGod,

No need to be rude. I simply pointed out, in a funny way, that the lyrics for Plundered My Soul were childish and amateurish. Jagger is a very bright man. You and I know he can do better than that, and he has in fact written some very good lyrics for some of his songs. PMS is not one of them.

Why don't you explain the situation with Sweet Black Angel. Some fans don't read these posts every day.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: bernardanderson ()
Date: May 19, 2010 04:08

the stones aren't exactly known for having brilliant lyrics. i've never heard anyone say the reason they listen to them is because of the lyrics.

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 19, 2010 04:29

Rubbish ...mick & keith have written some of the greatest rock lyrics ever...


Glad ta have a pot ta piss in.....
..........................Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)....Jagger/Richards



ROCKMAN

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: May 19, 2010 09:13

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Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: May 19, 2010 09:26

"Monkey Man" has a nice bunch of metaphors but I think they tentatively are based on blues folklore ("Lemon squeezer, etc.)

- Doxa

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: redsock ()
Date: May 20, 2010 07:19

and dylan has some great "list" songs

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: TeaAtThree ()
Date: May 20, 2010 08:00

<Those aren't Stones Songs. They're from Mick's 'look, i'm a chalk drawing with Yoda ears holding something shiny' album.>

Oh, Gawd, I LOOOOOOVE that!
Primitive Cool is the single most disappointing I EVER purchased. Maybe not the absolute worst, but easily the most disappointing.

I hate it like the ex-girlfriend who cheated on me with my buddy, lied about it, began acting on a soap opera, and then mercifully got poisoned after one season!

Re: The Big Book of Cliches, Hackneyed Phrases, and Overused Expressions
Posted by: Stargroves ()
Date: May 20, 2010 10:09

Smile that lights up your face, not shine.

If we're going to criticise vocabulary then this is also the thread to be pedantic about accuracyspinning smiley sticking its tongue out



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