Its about time The Stones & people around them listen to Bills Playing
Keiths comment below
Not to mention, high compliments to Bill Wyman's bass playing, saying that he didn't realize how good he was all those years and was blown away listening through the unreleased songs.

Don Was said something similar.

Maybe if they said it in 89 he would be still there

What were Darryl's comments about Keith's comments?

btw..this info about K is already in the thread about Keith denying MT rumors.


IORR............but I like it!

bill's been the lynchpin of the Rolling Stones sound since 1964. come on. everyone must know by now pretty much huh? people are being invited to know at this point...
the stones without charlie/bill axis were, imo, (and i can only theorize) a very very questionable not likely to hit it big kinda band...they started before keith and mick were writing those incredible songs...surely the charisma and talent of brian and mick and keith up front would prove to be serious seriously great original music...but...man, i just can't even seperate bill from the rolling stones sound, their hits, their most important and thrilling work for a quarter century...
as for as boogie, that stuttering start stop thing, those lovely up and down the neck punctuation roller coaster rides culminating in great crescendos w charlie like every few bars???? i mean bill is the man. he is totally the man. he defines electric rock and roll bass playing in his genius way imo. as much as keith put the cream and cherry crunch punch to berry's signature genius...bill is the man.
i will never understand what temporary insanity or lack of critical perspective within the band !!! lead to them hiring a non rock and roll guy to replace wyman...
...cause something is happening and it you don't know what it is, do you Mr. Jones?

PLUS, also IMO, there is not ONE CUT, that the Stones EVER played live, where Bill didn't do bass on the basic released track, that Bill didn't totally KILL, OWN, RIP ASUNDER AND DESTROY live in concert. plus he wrote jjf... hawwww.. or the riff, or whatever. i'm just sayin' bill's the man dammit. not one question BILL IS THE MAN



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Listen to the first thirty seconds of the bass part of All Down the Line, and you will really appreciate the contribution of Bill. He gets this song going in gear from the very beginning and never lets up. It is awesome. Beelyboy, you are so right. I wish I were a musician so I could use the right words to describe this sensation I get when Bill rips into this wonderful song.

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Listen to the first thirty seconds of the bass part of All Down the Line, and you will really appreciate the contribution of Bill. He gets this song going in gear from the very beginning and never lets up. It is awesome. Beelyboy, you are so right. I wish I were a musician so I could use the right words to describe this sensation I get when Bill rips into this wonderful song.

I thought it was Bill Plummer on ADTL?

The part on All Down The Line before the second verse right before Mick sings "oh heard the wires", it's that the bass? it sounds really fat...it's F-F#-G if i'm not mistaken, really cool
Bill, amazing player, his bassline on I Wanna Be Your Man makes the song.

For "All Down The Line", I think Bill Plummer just added another part on top of what Bill Wyman had played originally (like what he did on "Just Wanna See His Face", which already had a Mick Taylor bass part). For "Rip This Joint" and "Turd On The Run", Bill Wyman had probably played on the original sessions, but Mick & Keith (and Jimmy) probably decided an acoustic upright bass would work better, so they had Plummer replace Wyman's parts. In one of the Exile books (either Greenfield's or Dominque Tarle', I don't remember right now), it's stated that when Bill returned to Nellcote from a five-day vacation in early August '71, he discovered that Keith had replaced his bass-playing on two songs (obviously "Casino Boogie" and "Soul Survivor". So I surmise that Bill W. did play on most of the "Exile" sessions, even though he only ended up on about half.

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Listen to the first thirty seconds of the bass part of All Down the Line, and you will really appreciate the contribution of Bill. He gets this song going in gear from the very beginning and never lets up. It is awesome. Beelyboy, you are so right. I wish I were a musician so I could use the right words to describe this sensation I get when Bill rips into this wonderful song.

I thought it was Bill Plummer on ADTL?

Both. You can clearly hear Plummer coming in there. Powerful effect.

talkin bass here. Wyman is not underrated. We've had almost 20 years to evaluate his playing since he left the Stones. His work is great, yet simple. Hard to do. No one really acknowledges bass players unless they are Pastorius style virtuoso songwriters, they are supposed to be kind of anonymous. Darryl does his job really well. Imagine if he were a flashy type of bassist, he would not have got that gig.
in some ways a bass player's best compliment is to be taken for granted.

Nothing bad at all about Darryl...but it was Bill's idiosyncracies as a bassist combined with Charlie's as a drummer that made it so damn great - and weird. I miss the combination terribly.

"nothing bad about darryl" is kinda like the best thing u can say about him.
yeh there's nothing bad about darryl. ok.

back to talking about the Rolling Stones?



(new "signature" ) :

'there's nothing bad about darryl'



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if you check out the comments made by the other Stones about Darryl you'll find that they appreciate his playing quite a lot.
like his playing or not, the Stones do.

well there's nothing bad about him; hmmmm; wonder why charlie didn't pull him to play with his premier hot boogie woogie band; he was convenient! and there's nothing bad about him!

beelyboy...Think About it



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well there's nothing bad about him!

you forget his solo albums and the soundtrack he wrote ("Green Ice" iirc).


Otoh his parts on "Miss You" are genius!

>>hmmmm; wonder why charlie didn't pull him to play with his premier hot boogie woogie band; he was convenient! and there's nothing bad about him!<<


Well actually it's Axel Zwingenberger's band and I believe Ben Waters pulled the strings and invited Charlie to join them. Dave Green as a bassman was already there so they weren't in search for that position.

btw, Axel also played on Bill Wymans Rhythm Kings album "Just For A Thrill".

yep cool info; thnx very interested in that boogie band!!

anyway thread was 'bout how keith and don was were reflecting admiring etc...the incrreeddibbbbullllll impaacccctttttffulllll holy moly mutha furrigging genius-ass work of Bill Wyman - Rolling Stone.

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well there's nothing bad about him; hmmmm; wonder why charlie didn't pull him to play with his premier hot boogie woogie band; he was convenient! and there's nothing bad about him!

because Dave Green is a childhood friend of Charlie's. They grew up together.

yeh thnx for info; i think charlie's band here is a total joy. a continuing revelation and celebration actually. i don't mean to get all snide on darryl. really. just wish he'd throw some boogie bones,,,or a tip of the hat at least w some classic runs at that essential genre feel in the big ollin rockers....