One can hear Taylor once was a full Stones member .
The intro is the cork of a bottle of the best champagne.
He sounds like he's never been away, and that after 36 years!
Chapeaux for the other members.
Best song since 1976.

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I love the sound of the vocals when Mick howls 'soul' - it sounds HUGE, like you can hear the back of a big room, on the 'soul''s that Taylor does the chug guitar line right after, not the one or whatever where Jagger sings all high and la la shit like at the end.

Plundered is aging well to me. It worked.

yeah you're right there, some very nice tonal qualities between the voice , the rhythm- and ofcourse the lead guitar at that point.

Just listening to it - my god it (still and seemingly forever) sounds wonderful!!!! Magical stuff. I love THIS band.

- Doxa

I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

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I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

That is a tough question, I'd pick maybe Sweet black angel, not crazy about it.

Mick's rock, I'm roll.

One of my favorites

yes, sweet black angel can go.

it sounds like kids in school having to sing a song they don´t like because the teachers wants them to. none of the kids really plays instruments so every kid gets a different type of percussion instrument just to shake it as much out of time as possible and sing a long as bad as possible too.

booohh, that´s the king of fillers.



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I don't think it should be on Exile at all. They could've released it as a B-side.
But it doesn't fit between the songs on Exile.

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Just listening to it - my god it (still and seemingly forever) sounds wonderful!!!! Magical stuff. I love THIS band.

- Doxa

This 'new' song (for the first time in many years) reminds me why I love the Stones' music so much!

I'm with Dandelion on that. It's a nice song but not much more and rightly said "a bit too one-dimensional".
And Sweet black Angel is a very nice track! Not a classic as well but doubtless belongs to Exile! It has a charme of its own.

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yes, sweet black angel can go.

it sounds like kids in school having to sing a song they don´t like because the teachers wants them to. none of the kids really plays instruments so every kid gets a different type of percussion instrument just to shake it as much out of time as possible and sing a long as bad as possible too.

booohh, that´s the king of fillers.

From a musical point of view it wouldn't be hard to shatter your arguments to pieces here, but each to his own.



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yes, sweet black angel can go.

it sounds like kids in school having to sing a song they don´t like because the teachers wants them to. none of the kids really plays instruments so every kid gets a different type of percussion instrument just to shake it as much out of time as possible and sing a long as bad as possible too.

booohh, that´s the king of fillers.

From a musical point of view it wouldn't be hard to shatter your arguments to pieces here, but each to his own.

haha no chance dr. music.

WOW Mick Taylor is God playing the guitar. his guitar playing on plundered my soul is sublime. Some people seem to be deriding it for being too 'simple'. Why is that even a criticism? sometimes simplicity is best for emotive guitar playing. It really allows the listener to focus on his beautiful tone and vibrato. And always he does a fantastic job answering jaggers vocal lines.

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I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

It's better than Turd on the Run.IMHO

Indeed!

yes, i wished that turd was on the run.

plundered is better than casino boogie too and so is following the river and pass the wine.



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I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

Predictable you would say so. The song has the Stones magic that has been missing for so many years that is the result of that particular line up of musicians. Does that mean it should have replaced another song on Exile? No! But it's still wonderful. "One dimensional" in my book describes nearly every recording they have made since Tattoo You.

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I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

Imo the Rolling Stones sound one-dimensional after the release of black& blue.
I'am talking about straight licks....

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yes, i wished that turd was on the run.

plundered is better than casino boogie too and so is following the river and pass the wine.

Casino Boogie is brilliant and contains the best Mick & Keith harmony singing that exists on record. I wish they could do an entire album of new songs of the quality of Casino Boogie now. I would be thrilled.

71Tele:

<Predictable you would say so. The song has the Stones magic that has been missing for so many years that is the result of that particular line up of musicians. Does that mean it should have replaced another song on Exile? No! But it's still wonderful. "One dimensional" in my book describes nearly every recording they have made since Tattoo You.>

Don´t get me wrong. I like PMS. But it doesn´t deserve the hailing and praising by some posters here, imo.

Of course I understand the excitement of Taylor being back recording with the boys again, but I don´t think this song is THAT good, that´s all.

And Casino Boogie has the best rugged, beautiful and stunning vocal performances ever by any band, imo.

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71Tele:

<Predictable you would say so. The song has the Stones magic that has been missing for so many years that is the result of that particular line up of musicians. Does that mean it should have replaced another song on Exile? No! But it's still wonderful. "One dimensional" in my book describes nearly every recording they have made since Tattoo You.>

Don´t get me wrong. I like PMS. But it doesn´t deserve the hailing and praising by some posters here, imo.

Of course I understand the excitement of Taylor being back recording with the boys again, but I don´t think this song is THAT good, that´s all.

And Casino Boogie has the best rugged, beautiful and stunning vocal performances ever by any band, imo.

I understand...I think the excitement about PMS is that it's the first "new" song we have had in years with that special vibe. Not claiming it's even one of their best songs, but I get chills hearing it.

Yeah, great track, and really does bring back the memories. I wonder though about the lack of involvement by Keith? WHY? And it is so interesting that Jagger the usual anti nostalgic one, is the driving force behind EOMS re-release and Ladies and Gentlemen....

Which lack of involvement? Keith is clearly audible all the way thru the song

Also, he did several overdubs on other "new" EOMS songs. The solo on Alladin Story being the most obvious one. But there are also acoustic overdubs, according to Keith.

Pure magic. Masterpiece!

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Which lack of involvement? Keith is clearly audible all the way thru the song

yeah, but we don't know that he was playing throughout the length of the original outtake. It might be spliced and repeated from a much shorter fragment.

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I like the song. It's nice, but nothing more than that, imo. A bit too one-dimensional for my taste. Taylor does a good job, nothing spectacular. I can't understand people hailing him for these rather straight licks. Suits the song, but nothing more than that.

I also understand why this one never made the album. Which song would have had to go??

Imo the Rolling Stones sound one-dimensional after the release of black& blue.
I'am talking about straight licks....

You're talking about straight and predictable songs as Far Away Eyes, Continental Drift, Undercover, Had It With You, Feel On Baby, How Can I Stop, Might As Well Get Juiced, Beast Of Burden, Moon Is Up and Down In The Hole?

The quality could be disputed in places, but one-dimensional? No way.

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WOW Mick Taylor is God playing the guitar. his guitar playing on plundered my soul is sublime. Some people seem to be deriding it for being too 'simple'. Why is that even a criticism? sometimes simplicity is best for emotive guitar playing. It really allows the listener to focus on his beautiful tone and vibrato. And always he does a fantastic job answering jaggers vocal lines.

But it's exactly the vibrato I'm missing on PMS. A bit more juice regarding the sound + the vibrato would have done wonders with Taylor's part, imo.

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Which lack of involvement? Keith is clearly audible all the way thru the song

yeah, but we don't know that he was playing throughout the length of the original outtake. It might be spliced and repeated from a much shorter fragment.

So? that may happen during usual recording sessions as well. I don't think that's very likely in this case either, when listening to PMS with headphones.

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WOW Mick Taylor is God playing the guitar. his guitar playing on plundered my soul is sublime. Some people seem to be deriding it for being too 'simple'. Why is that even a criticism? sometimes simplicity is best for emotive guitar playing. It really allows the listener to focus on his beautiful tone and vibrato. And always he does a fantastic job answering jaggers vocal lines.

But it's exactly the vibrato I'm missing on PMS. A bit more juice regarding the sound + the vibrato would have done wonders with Taylor's part, imo.

The question is if vibrato would have worked on this PMS version. Or perhaps Jagger instructed Taylor not to use vibrato and not to play a solo part, which also would have been possible (and an improvement). Still it is great how Taylor within such a short time was able to throw out this guitar part and invent these nice melodic lines. One could say that Taylor still 'lives' in the Stones songs, something he always did when he was still in the band. Regardless of the songs he played (Jones- or Taylor-era). One can't say that of Wood: he doesn't live in the/all Stones-songs, that's why he never has been a true Rolling Stone (yes, formally, I know). That's not a disqualification of Wood as a musician. But his playing never fit the Stones music that well and that magically as Taylor's did. Well, the ball is on the half of the Woodyists now. Hit it, guys.

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WOW Mick Taylor is God playing the guitar. his guitar playing on plundered my soul is sublime. Some people seem to be deriding it for being too 'simple'. Why is that even a criticism? sometimes simplicity is best for emotive guitar playing. It really allows the listener to focus on his beautiful tone and vibrato. And always he does a fantastic job answering jaggers vocal lines.

But it's exactly the vibrato I'm missing on PMS. A bit more juice regarding the sound + the vibrato would have done wonders with Taylor's part, imo.

The question is if vibrato would have worked on this PMS version. Or perhaps Jagger instructed Taylor not to use vibrato and not to play a solo part, which also would have been possible (and an improvement). Still it is great how Taylor within such a short time was able to throw out this guitar part and invent these nice melodic lines. One could say that Taylor still 'lives' in the Stones songs, something he always did when he was still in the band. Regardless of the songs he played (Jones- or Taylor-era). One can't say that of Wood: he doesn't live in the/all Stones-songs, that's why he never has been a true Rolling Stone (yes, formally, I know). That's not a disqualification of Wood as a musician. But his playing never fit the Stones music that well and that magically as Taylor's did. Well, the ball is on the half of the Woodyists now. Hit it, guys.

Agree. I think Jagger wouldn't have wanted Taylor to get too dominant on this track.