So with all of the good news surfacing regarding Exile and Ladies and Gentlemen, I found this...

Missing Bill?

[new.music.yahoo.com]


Seems really weird to delete him from this one (obscure) album. Who do you think is behind it?

Think I have a DejaView

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"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

also IORR post from 2005: Leaving Wyman Off Rarities

i hear they really rock...

Orwellian revisionism on the Stones' part. They are trying to erase Wyman and Taylor from history. Or at least they were...Maybe they will Photoshop Taylor out of the Exile postcards on the new deluxe reissue.

Excellent, Bernard!

Yes, it is one of the numerous nasty things they have done, excising Bill from history.

I really believe this shouldn't happen to them even though they hadn't been members of the group since 1974 (Taylor) and 1993 (Wyman).

~Ben

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Orwellian revisionism on the Stones' part. They are trying to erase Wyman and Taylor from history. Or at least they were...Maybe they will Photoshop Taylor out of the Exile postcards on the new deluxe reissue.

Even when they were IN the band, Taylor and Wyman were largely written out of the story. Neither one of them says a single word in Gimme Shelter, and though it's been a while since I've seen Ladies and Gentlemen, my memory of it is that it's a 90-minute film in which Bill gets exactly ONE closeup, lasting about two seconds.



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this week, sharp-eyed Internet message board users pointed out that the album's cover photo is missing an important element of the original photograph: former bassist Bill Wyman.

This week??? Gee, that's not very quick of Yahoo news.

This is funny though:
It's not the first time Bill Wyman has had issues surrounding his existence. In 2002, a lawyer representing the bassist issued a cease-and-desist to a rock journalist named Bill Wyman, claiming it was confusing for a music writer to have the same name as a famous musician. This, of course, leaves aside the fact that Wyman the writer was actually born with his name, while Wyman the musician had his name legally changed from William George Perks in 1963.



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I thought Lenin played a Volga guitar with refitted Tesla pups. I am pretty sure it was a lefty model.

Josef didn't play, f-ing poser.

The thing with Wyman, is he gave them incredible service. Even served out a recording/distribution contract. It's sad that there seems to have been a falling out between Billy and the Band.

Don't be deceived by that picture, the closest Lenin and Stalin got to being musical was playing the ballhum.



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Though, of course, Bill was in the audience at the last UK show - and recieved a (mini) standing ovation as he walked through the crowd before the band came onstage.

The guy at the Yahoo music blog is 5 years to late in his discovery. People here noticed this 5 years ago:

[new.music.yahoo.com]

A shame - then and still today.

Shame shame shame!

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The guy at the Yahoo music blog is 5 years to late in his discovery. People here noticed this 5 years ago:

[new.music.yahoo.com]

Nothin' slips past THIS guy, eh.

You'd need to get up pretty early if you're going to pull the wool over his eyes...

his follow up article will be about how the songs on that disc aren't rare at all.

I was going to post it and call it "this just in"
but Justin was first.

my apologies...

Not on my version!




"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

anyone got the heart to tell the poor sap that keith and mick were busted on drug charges?

I actually knew the journalist "Bill Wyman" mentioned. He worked for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution for a while and, yes, that was his real name! He should have counter-sued Mr. Perks to prevent him from profiting fron his name!

Ross

i thought it was funny that this is currently a Yahoo "headline" story!

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anyone got the heart to tell the poor sap that keith and mick were busted on drug charges?

dont say that loud in case there are kids on this site . i would not want the youth to get the wrong impression .remember destroy all drugs .for pot the correct disposal method is to burn it ok( put it in a rolling paper first ok )

What's the track listing on your copy, Deltic?

even though bill is not on the cover does he not still get royalties? and if so then why keep him off the cover?

1917:

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anyone got the heart to tell the poor sap that keith and mick were busted on drug charges?

dont say that loud in case there are kids on this site . i would not want the youth to get the wrong impression .remember destroy all drugs .for pot the correct disposal method is to burn it ok( put it in a rolling paper first ok )

pot ain't illegal, though. at least not around these parts. a friend of mine was pulled over the other day by the highway patrol - had a lit joint in the ashtray - and the cop asked for it to take a hit off of it. i kid you not.

most websites are terrible about running old stories as if they are new; MSN is the worst I see. I think it is stories that generate clicks get repeated periodically. But this Yahoo story is dated today. The guy's degree in journalism would be annulled; that is if he actually had one.

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What's the track listing on your copy, Deltic?

It's made up of all of the officially released stuff (not including promo discs or 12 inch remixes) that aren't available on regular Stones CD's, particularly now that "Sucking in the Seventies", "Forty Licks" and "Rarities" are no longer on catalogue.

Real Rarities (Disc 1)
1: Brown Sugar (Vinyl Mono)
2: Bitch (Vinyl Mono)
3: Let It Rock (Vinyl Mono)
4: Sway (US 'b' side)
5: Brown Sugar (Hot Rocks version)
6: Wild Horses (Hot Rocks version)
7: Tumbling Dice (US Mono)
8: All Down The Line (US 'b' side)
9: Star Star (Censored US Vinyl)
10: Through The Lonely Nights
11: Miss You 45
12: Faraway Eyes 45
13: Beast Of Burden (8 Track)
14: Shattered (8 Track)
15: Miss You (8 Track)
16: Time Waits For No One (extended)

Real Rarities (Disc 2)
1: Everything Is Turning To Gold
2: When The Whip Comes Down [Live]
3: If I Was A Dancer (Dance Pt. 2)
4: Beast Of Burden (Live)
5: Think I'm Going Mad
6: One Hit (To The Body) 45
7: Fancy Man Blues
8: Rock And A Hard Place 45
9: Cook Cook Blues
10: Wish I'd Never Met You
11: Terrifying 45
12: Highwire 45
13: 2000 Light Years From Home (Live)
14: I Just Want To Make Love To You (Live)

Real Rarities (Disc 3)
1: Play With Fire (Live)
2: Undercover Of The Night (Live)
3: Harlem Shuffle [Live]
4: Sexdrive 45
5: Tumbling Dice (Live)
6: Street Fighting Man (Live)
7: Gimmie_Shelter (charity)
8: Love Is Strong [Single Re-Mix]
9: The Storm
10: So Young
11: Out Of Tears (Don Was Edit)
12: Jump On Top Of Me (Pret-A-Porter)
13: I'm Gonna Drive
14: Sparks Will Fly (Radio Clean)
15: I Go Wild (Scott Litt remix)

Real Rarities (Disc 4)
1: I Go Wild (Live)
2: Who Do You Love (Live with Bo Diddley, VL DVD)
3: The Rocky Road To Dublin (with The Dubliners)
4: Like A Rolling Stone (Live Single Edit)
5: Black Limousine (Live)
6: All Down the Line (Live)
7: Live With Me (Live)
8: Tumbling Dice (Live)
9: Gimme Shelter (Live)
10: Paying The Cost To Be The Boss (with BB King)
11: Anybody Seen My Baby (LP Edit)
12: Saint Of Me (Radio Edit)
13: Angie (Live Jap B2B )
14: Anyway You Look At It
15: Honest I Do (Hope Floats soundtrack)

Real Rarities (Disc 5)
1: Out Of Control (Album Radio Edit)
2: I Just Want To Make Love To You (Live Jap NS)
3: Miss You (Dr. Dre Remix 2002, Austin Powers Goldmember soundtrack))
4: Don't Stop (Single Edit)
5: Keys To Your Love
6: Stealing My Heart
7: Losing My Touch
8: If You Can't Rock Me (Jap Live Licks)
9: It's All Over Now (Live itunes)
10: I Can't Turn You Loose (Live Four Flicks DVD)
11: Extreme Western Grip (Four Flicks DVD)
12: Well Well (Four Flicks DVD)
13: Love Train (Live Four Flicks DVD)
14: Thru & Thru (Live)

Real Rarities (Disc 6)
1: Rain Fall Down (Will I Am single remix)
2: Under The Radar
3: Don't Wanna Go Home
4: Dance (Pt. 1) [Live]
5: Before They Make Me Run [Live]
6: Hand Of Fate (Live vinyl 45)
7: Bob Wills Is Still The King (Live BB DVD)
8: Learning The Game (Live BB DVD)
9: I Can't Be Satisfied (Live BB DVD)
10: Night Time Is The Right Time (Live BB DVD)
11: Get Up, Stand Up (Live BB DVD)
12: Mr. Pitiful (Live BB DVD)
13: Undercover Of The Night (Live Jap SAL)

Also included: "Streets Of Love" (German/Dutch single edit) and "Rock Me Baby" (with ACDC from Toronto Rocks)
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Don't ask me to post it, though!


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"



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