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...nobody was near the WHO for other reasons...
And you forgot to mention the geezers-old or not - who drop their beer on their neighbours' jeans ....
For sure,the aspect of the front row in Scorsese movie seemed a bit suspicious looking.....most of the pretty girls looked not cared and concerned by what was going on on the stage.
But you know....SAL was a movie intended to be shown in movie theaters ,so I am not surprised by the handling .
Honestly ,when I first saw the movie ,I was more interested by/in Keith 's fingers and how he sounded ,and by Jagger's hips rather than the girls in the audience
And as far as I know, there were in the front row one or two good looking girls who are real Stones fans ,I've forgot their name .
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
No, whilst there was a 'rehearsal' (which was necessary for technical reasons because they were part of a quickly assembled stage show that was being broadcast worldwide) they were Stones fans who answered an ad.
I know how you feel!
Easy for me to say because whilst the Rolling Stones have been my 2nd fave band for over 20 years they are not my entire life which is, I suspect, your definition of die hard fan.
Just because Ia like the bimbos doesn't make me a lesser fan!!
Gazza, I have to admit I haven't seen the whole film, only clips of it, and I was basing my thoughts on the picture that went with the girl's article. I just looked at it again, and while I do see that it appears to be a shot of the side stage and not the very front, the people in the photo do not appear to be of any particular look, age, or anything else. Based on the clips I've seen, they look like the rest of the audience, but again, I've only seen a few songs from the film and have not studied the audience.
Even the girl who wrote the article doesn't appear to be anything special. From the picture, she does look very attractive, but not "model bimbo" hot or anything. I just can't believe that the Stones and/or Scorsese were that concerned with who was at the front. I agree with you Gazza, I find it very hard to believe that so many of the Stones fans for any show, regardless of size, would be so old and butt-ugly that they'd need to find attractive people to put up front for a film shoot. Especially when they looked like the girl in the article, who again is attractive, but not all that special. I could see them picking Jerry Hall-in-her-prime type hotties, but the one in the article? I just don't see it, at least not in that picture.
It's just so ridiculous and "Hollywood" of them.
Living near Detroit, as I do, I considered applying for that "job" myself. At first, there WAS an age limit, and I was over it, but fans complained, and the age limit was eventually waved, so I COULD have done it, but it required taking a WEEK off from work, without pay, for rehearsals, and they wanted to do an FBI background check, and you didn't even get a ticket to the game, and on and on, so I opted out. The point is, the people who DID do it had to either be extremely hard core fans, or people with way too much free time on their hands. Watching it on TV, I kinda wish I had been there. It may well have been their last-ever Detroit appearance.
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Also, the age limit had nothing to do with wanting a young looking crowd. It had to do with the fans being INSIDE the stage, and the stage having to be very quickly moved onto the field, requiring the fans to be able to RUN fast enough to keep up with the fast-moving stage.
Or Gene Simmons.
wait, that's the same thing.....
J
Yeah, all the phonies were on the stage.
That may not have worked out too well:
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Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 17:32
what the stones should have done was have celebs and vip's in the first couple rows .that way you could have been like oh there jack nicholson ,oh look there'e sharon stone, president bill clinton and so on . i bet nobody would have batted an eyelash .
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 17:37
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Hairball
Phony paid "fan"/actors = LAME! And what about the Stones' Superbowl appearance?
I haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't the crowd there phony? I think they even went through rehearsals.
Thats what was great about the Who appearance, they didn't have any phonies anywhere near the stage.
...nobody was near the WHO for other reasons...
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 18:11
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Certainly better than looking at a bunch of old geezers in their stretched lapping tongue t-shirts and long grey hair.
And you forgot to mention the geezers-old or not - who drop their beer on their neighbours' jeans ....
For sure,the aspect of the front row in Scorsese movie seemed a bit suspicious looking.....most of the pretty girls looked not cared and concerned by what was going on on the stage.
But you know....SAL was a movie intended to be shown in movie theaters ,so I am not surprised by the handling .
Honestly ,when I first saw the movie ,I was more interested by/in Keith 's fingers and how he sounded ,and by Jagger's hips rather than the girls in the audience
And as far as I know, there were in the front row one or two good looking girls who are real Stones fans ,I've forgot their name .
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 18:42
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Hairball
Phony paid "fan"/actors = LAME! And what about the Stones' Superbowl appearance?
I haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't the crowd there phony? I think they even went through rehearsals.
No, whilst there was a 'rehearsal' (which was necessary for technical reasons because they were part of a quickly assembled stage show that was being broadcast worldwide) they were Stones fans who answered an ad.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 20:10
That whole selection thing STILL pisses me off! I tried everything in my power to get into one of those shows. I think I even sent pictures but I was set to pay a high price for a real ticket and still I got shut out. I only live 2 hours 20 minutes from that venue so I could have made it there, no problem. I can tell you one thing...I would been insulted to take $$ if I were hired as an extra! I'd have PAID THEM! I was upset for a very long time about missing those shows, as I'm sure quite a lot of you were.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 20:15
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That whole selection thing STILL pisses me off! I was upset for a very long time about missing those shows, as I'm sure quite a lot of you were.
I know how you feel!
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 21:22
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they got them by screwing all the real fans and letting the fake fan bimbos go in our place thats how,the stones suck for this as do the organizers
I quite liked the bimbos. Certainly better than looking at a bunch of old geezers in their stretched lapping tongue t-shirts and long grey hair.
More bimbos - I say!!
easy for you to say because there is no way you are a die hard if you can make that comment, nuff said
Easy for me to say because whilst the Rolling Stones have been my 2nd fave band for over 20 years they are not my entire life which is, I suspect, your definition of die hard fan.
Just because Ia like the bimbos doesn't make me a lesser fan!!
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 21:49
When VH-1 did a ZZ TOP Storytellers in Chicago last March they (the producers) had an application process for tickets where you had to submit your photo.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Rockman
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Date: March 24, 2010 22:02
ZZ TOP Storytellers in Chicago last March they (the producers) had an application process for tickets where you had to submit your photo
WHAT WHAT!!! ...... They only wanted bearded bimbos!!!!!
ROCKMAN
WHAT WHAT!!! ...... They only wanted bearded bimbos!!!!!
ROCKMAN
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 24, 2010 22:23
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Just because Ia like the bimbos doesn't make me a lesser fan!
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 25, 2010 00:34
the superfan boyfriend didn't hurt either,no?Quote
oldkr
i was right up front, ive seen the stones 40 times been backstage, rattle snaked, hospitality lounged and back rowed.
its because im neither fat nor old. therefore im the desired body type for a hollywood movie.
it aint rocket science.
OLDKR
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 25, 2010 01:57
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After reading the article, I can't help but think that the girl was a legit fan looking for a way to attend a show she sincerely wanted to see. She was "frantically searching craigslist for tickets to the Rolling Stones concert that would take place a day later". I don't think there is anything wrong with this. What stands out as wrong to me is this:
1. Feeling adventurous or not, what the hell is she doing responding to an ad placed by an “older man” looking for a “woman aged 25 or younger” to attend the concert as his date? I'm sorry, but both sides of that equation are just creepy.
2. If the people they ended up picking ranged in age from young hipsters to aging hippies, why did they feel the need to pad the audience to begin with? It seems completely unnecessary. Based on this girl's interest, I think plenty of "cool" looking people would have showed up anyways, regardless of the age of the Stones. When you look at the film, the people in the balcony don't appear to look noticeably different from those by the stage. Why couldn't they have just used the people who showed up, there really doesn't seem to be a difference.
Do the Stones really think so little of their fans?
Your second point is a very good one. Its not that uncommon at a show thats being filmed for TV for audience members to be re-located to positions where you get a sizeable amount of photogenic people down front. The Stones did this before at their shows in 1995 at Paradiso, etc. It's no big deal.
The difference is that these were people who bought tickets - not paid models who were 'hired' to take places that could and should have been sold to real fans. The venue used for the 'Shine a Light' film holds about 2,500 people. Its incredulous to suggest that out of that amount of people (spread over two shows), they couldnt have found a couple of dozen reasonably photogenic fans to fill the front couple of rows.
When this happened at the time, it was widely argued on here that it would look phoney and ridiculous when the film was released. And so it did. About 20-30 almost identikit blonde bubble heads in the front couple of rows who could barely clap in time, look in the right direction and who seemed to be spending most of the show taking photos on their cellphones. There was hardly a single review I read when SAL came out which failed to mention how unconvincing it looked and that it was laughable that the Stones and Scorsese were trying to get across the impression that Stones concerts are full of nubile blondes.
The thing is that this is the same band who seem to pride themselves in their ability to attract a fanbase that crosses generations. All except when its being preserved for celluloid, it seems.
Gazza, I have to admit I haven't seen the whole film, only clips of it, and I was basing my thoughts on the picture that went with the girl's article. I just looked at it again, and while I do see that it appears to be a shot of the side stage and not the very front, the people in the photo do not appear to be of any particular look, age, or anything else. Based on the clips I've seen, they look like the rest of the audience, but again, I've only seen a few songs from the film and have not studied the audience.
Even the girl who wrote the article doesn't appear to be anything special. From the picture, she does look very attractive, but not "model bimbo" hot or anything. I just can't believe that the Stones and/or Scorsese were that concerned with who was at the front. I agree with you Gazza, I find it very hard to believe that so many of the Stones fans for any show, regardless of size, would be so old and butt-ugly that they'd need to find attractive people to put up front for a film shoot. Especially when they looked like the girl in the article, who again is attractive, but not all that special. I could see them picking Jerry Hall-in-her-prime type hotties, but the one in the article? I just don't see it, at least not in that picture.
It's just so ridiculous and "Hollywood" of them.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:00
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Never been to a strip club = please tell me what they are like melillo.
anybody who believes that stand on their head
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
tatters
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:01
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Hairball
Phony paid "fan"/actors = LAME! And what about the Stones' Superbowl appearance?
I haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't the crowd there phony? I think they even went through rehearsals.
No, whilst there was a 'rehearsal' (which was necessary for technical reasons because they were part of a quickly assembled stage show that was being broadcast worldwide) they were Stones fans who answered an ad.
Living near Detroit, as I do, I considered applying for that "job" myself. At first, there WAS an age limit, and I was over it, but fans complained, and the age limit was eventually waved, so I COULD have done it, but it required taking a WEEK off from work, without pay, for rehearsals, and they wanted to do an FBI background check, and you didn't even get a ticket to the game, and on and on, so I opted out. The point is, the people who DID do it had to either be extremely hard core fans, or people with way too much free time on their hands. Watching it on TV, I kinda wish I had been there. It may well have been their last-ever Detroit appearance.
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Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:14
Good point. Yes, I remember them raising the age limit (it was originally set at 45 until someone tactfully pointed out the Stones average audience was significantly older)
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
ablett
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:17
No big deal and this stories been done to death.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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tatters
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:33
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Gazza
Good point. Yes, I remember them raising the age limit (it was originally set at 45 until someone tactfully pointed out the Stones average audience was significantly older)
Also, the age limit had nothing to do with wanting a young looking crowd. It had to do with the fans being INSIDE the stage, and the stage having to be very quickly moved onto the field, requiring the fans to be able to RUN fast enough to keep up with the fast-moving stage.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Gazza
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:39
LOL. We're used to that mad sprint back towards the b-stage at Stones shows, carefully timed to give you a head start on the audience members who dont know whats coming, so it shoulda been easy!
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Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
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Date: March 25, 2010 02:42
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lem motlow
this is the kind of thing the stones need to avoid from here on out.
they REALLLY need to gain back some of their rock and roll credibilty.alot of people will say it doesnt matter in this day and age-and they would be wrong.
you can only go on for so long inviting pop stars onstage,hiring fake audience members for a concert film,selling every piece of crap that you can slap your label on,draining every dollar you can from the fans for tickets etc...
at the end you look like a joke.
Or Gene Simmons.
wait, that's the same thing.....
J
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Floorbird
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Date: March 25, 2010 03:16
It's the end game paying people seventy five bucks for front row center, too surreal to ponder.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
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Date: March 25, 2010 08:17
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Never been to a strip club = please tell me what they are like melillo.
anybody who believes that stand on their head
Melillo you need to get a life. You have been bent all out of shape over the composition of the audience for a Stones show that took place nearly 4 years ago. You need to get some perspective.
As for me, much as I would have loved to have been there, Shine A Light is a film of a show I didn't see - nothing more or less. The make up of the audience is of no real concern to me hence my somewhat tongue in cheek comments about bimbos.
But it's OK. I forgive you.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Doxa
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Date: March 25, 2010 09:46
One of the things that bugs me with this phony Scorcese movie thing is the claim for being a document. Is the Hollywood really gone so far in their reality picture that a document is supposed to be based on paid actors?
I guess the Maysles brothers once paid the Hells Angels to take their motorcicles and drive to the front of stage to get some "action" to otherwise boring Rollng Stones concert document...
(But to be fair: there are well-known scenes in CS BLUES that aren't quite documentary either...)
- Doxa
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I guess the Maysles brothers once paid the Hells Angels to take their motorcicles and drive to the front of stage to get some "action" to otherwise boring Rollng Stones concert document...
(But to be fair: there are well-known scenes in CS BLUES that aren't quite documentary either...)
- Doxa
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Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
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Date: March 25, 2010 10:26
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Hairball
Phony paid "fan"/actors = LAME! And what about the Stones' Superbowl appearance?
I haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't the crowd there phony? I think they even went through rehearsals.
Thats what was great about the Who appearance, they didn't have any phonies anywhere near the stage.
Yeah, all the phonies were on the stage.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Carnaby
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Date: March 25, 2010 17:10
Get your chicks on Route 66.
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Cafaro
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Date: March 25, 2010 17:59
Really...........like the Stones care about their fans! They never have and never will. I love them dearly, they are my favorite band but for some reason many us feel they have some sort of integrity and being anti-establishment.....We bought the hype from the sixties and early 70s.
In reality, they are just musicians looking to make a buck. Nothing more. Really, they were never were anything more than that........we just bought the image. I mean, corporate sponsors pay money to go back stage and shake hands with the band and the band (at least keith) laughs about it. It's all a joke. they put on a good show..well, they used to put on a good show but like they say, "What Can a poor Boy do'
They need to put hot chicks there to give themselves an ego stroke. Mick might act out more if he's got hotties in front of him vs. the burnt out hippie. they also need to keep selling the image that they matter...at least sexually.
Lest we remember...........there is a fine line between a fan and a sucker
In reality, they are just musicians looking to make a buck. Nothing more. Really, they were never were anything more than that........we just bought the image. I mean, corporate sponsors pay money to go back stage and shake hands with the band and the band (at least keith) laughs about it. It's all a joke. they put on a good show..well, they used to put on a good show but like they say, "What Can a poor Boy do'
They need to put hot chicks there to give themselves an ego stroke. Mick might act out more if he's got hotties in front of him vs. the burnt out hippie. they also need to keep selling the image that they matter...at least sexually.
Lest we remember...........there is a fine line between a fan and a sucker
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
Edith Grove
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Date: March 25, 2010 18:06
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Carnaby
Get your chicks on Route 66.
That may not have worked out too well:
Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: March 25, 2010 18:07
as it is shaking out, it's looking about as real as Gimme Shelter, if you ask me (ie - "not very") The more I see Gimme Shelter and realize how narratives were shaped, it seems less of a documentary and more a docu-drama--certainly not as staged as shine a light (where's the set list?? oy vey) But not as natural as I used to think, either
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Re: How they got their chicks for the first 5 wrows in SHINE A LIGHT
Posted by:
LSTNT
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Date: March 25, 2010 19:18
I really cannot believe this is an issue, I was at the show and not for a second did I worry about who was in the first 3 rows. I'm a STONES fan, I was there to watch and listen to the band. Same when the movie came out I enjoyed it for what it was, a piece of the Stones 2006 era. Long live the Stones.
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