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hbwriter
It's not about just playing the garden--it's about an arena *tour* - a full scale undertaking where they cart their gear all over the place - the strategy of planning and promoting a tour of that scale
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Silver Dagger
Er, no. Led Zeppelin toured the States alone no less than 5 times in 69. Zep's Fillmore West 69 boot is testimony to all the hard work they put in to touring. One of the best live recordings of all time.
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hbwriter
TK--i respectfully disagree--those Beatles tours weren't about "arena rock" - it was some tiny stage, a few tinny speakers and local promoters handling everything so every show was put up different--the stones 69 tour was an orchestrated "campaign" -
I know what you mean with the "arena rock" and the "orchestrated campaign",
but the first Beatle summer tour is really the blueprint for what came later,
that night after night slog through basketball/hockey arenas.
True that local promoters were involved, but that's always happened,
and still does.
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tatters
Even in '72, when the Stones did it again, arena tours were still rare. Stadium tours (except for the Beatles, of course) really didn't get going until CSNY in '74. That was the culmination of the "Let's put a fence around Woodstock" idea.
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hbwriter
TK--i respectfully disagree--those Beatles tours weren't about "arena rock" - it was some tiny stage, a few tinny speakers and local promoters handling everything so every show was put up different--the stones 69 tour was an orchestrated "campaign" -
tatters--what you said is just what i was getting at - the arena rock tour as a concept - not a strung together series of one offs
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tatters
Even in '72, when the Stones did it again, arena tours were still rare. Stadium tours (except for the Beatles, of course) really didn't get going until CSNY in '74. That was the culmination of the "Let's put a fence around Woodstock" idea.
Led Zep did large arena (20K+ seaters) tours in 70, 71 and 72, and even did stadiums in Australia in 72. In fact, Ron Wood mentions in his last book that Jagger consulted Robert Plant on how to tour Australia properly.
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tatters
Even in '72, when the Stones did it again, arena tours were still rare. Stadium tours (except for the Beatles, of course) really didn't get going until CSNY in '74. That was the culmination of the "Let's put a fence around Woodstock" idea.
Led Zep did large arena (20K+ seaters) tours in 70, 71 and 72, and even did stadiums in Australia in 72. In fact, Ron Wood mentions in his last book that Jagger consulted Robert Plant on how to tour Australia properly.
Zep was certainly playing arenas by '72, but I'm not sure about '70 and '71. I'll have to do some research on that. I don't think that even the Who really started doing full-blown arena tours until '72 at the earliest. I don't think they even played MSG until '74. When they played New York in '71, they played at the 16,000 capacity Forest Hills Tennis Stadium, where the Stones had played in '66 and the Beatles had played in '64.
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tatters
I don't think that even the Who really started doing full-blown arena tours until '72 at the earliest. I don't think they even played MSG until '74. When they played New York in '71, they played at the 16,000 capacity Forest Hills Tennis Stadium, where the Stones had played in '66 and the Beatles had played in '64.
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hbwriter
It's not about just playing the garden--it's about an arena *tour* - a full scale undertaking where they cart their gear all over the place - the strategy of planning and promoting a tour of that scale
I beleive, correct me if I am wrong but wasn't this the first tour for any group where they brought thier own stage to every venue.