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1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: Pecman ()
Date: October 27, 2009 17:14

I find it strange that two of the best Stones tours - the 1972 & 1978 tours, the Stones didn't release a live album when they have vitruallydone one for every other tour....(Love You Live - representing the 75 & 76 tours).

They have got to be in the vualts!!!!

PECMAN

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: October 27, 2009 17:22

Quote
Pecman
I find it strange that two of the best Stones tours - the 1972 & 1978 tours, the Stones didn't release a live album when they have vitruallydone one for every other tour....(Love You Live - representing the 75 & 76 tours).

They have got to be in the vualts!!!!

PECMAN

not sure it really matters now - the boots are there for anyone who really needs a 72 or 78 fix. but, yeah, back in the day, it woulda kinda been cool to have them hot off the presses while the tours were still fresh...

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: October 27, 2009 19:13

It is odd. They've been so apt to do a live album - one 1970s tour that resulted in a double, both 1980s tours got one but only one in the 1990s and one double album in the 20 Hundreds so far.

That's really not that many compared to how bands pump them out now. For whatever reason that's become funny to me - so many live albums from the Stones. Then of course there are the DVDs. Which are nice, right? I like 'em, no matter how bad the Stones are ha ha.

I think part of it is because there really haven't been that many live albums, that they stick out to people like that.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: dewlover ()
Date: October 27, 2009 19:31

As far as I know, there are no live albums from 1975's TOTA either...



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Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: hot stuff ()
Date: October 27, 2009 19:34

TRUE..Love you live is from 1976 and imo---The 1975 Tour of America was far better!

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: Stones Blah ()
Date: October 27, 2009 20:10

A couple of songs were from Toronto 75, Maple Leaf Gardens. IORR and Fingerprint File if I remember correct.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: October 27, 2009 20:42

it was the legal hassles with Klein that kiboshed the 72 concert album.



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Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: buffalo7478 ()
Date: October 27, 2009 21:19

I had heard that 72 was quashed by legal issues with Klein, which is sad as the band (ok....start complaining that I'm an idiot) was at their peak in 72 and 73, live.

Not sure that had room for a live disk after 1978, after just releasing Love You Live a year or so earlier, and it being a double album. I loved the 78 tour, but the only things they could have released (that weren't done on Love You Live or Ya Yas) was teh Some Girls material and a cover or two. Though they were good covers. I still love the bootleg of Detroit....'and now from England the Rolling @#$%& Stones!' and into Let It Rock.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: October 27, 2009 21:46

I wonder how the '72 album would have sold - it was a remarkable tour. But Ya-Ya's was so strong & perfect, maybe the '72 album would have critically panned. But I bet it would have sold lots because so many people couldn't get tickets to the shows.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 27, 2009 22:04

Part of 1970 deal with Klein was that the Stones where not allowed to release any ABKCO registered music on a live album before January 1, 1977.

Mathijs

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: October 27, 2009 22:20

They should have made delux editions when the remasters came out, maybe throw the bonus stuff on a dvd with some footage so the first disc is the original some girls track listing.. no copyright issues..

Some Girls Deluxe

Studio

Miss You
When The Whip Comes Down
Imagination
Some Girls
Lies
Far Away Eyes
Respectable
Beast of Burden
Before They Make Me Run
Shattered

Bonus:
Mick Jagger & Peter Tosh – Walk & Don’t Look Back
Keith Richards – Run Rudolph Run
Keith Richards – Harder They Come

Some Girls Live..

Let It Rock (Fort Worth)
Respectable (Fort Worth)
Miss You (Fort Worth)
When The Whip Comes Down( Fort Worth)
Imagination (Fort Worth)
Far Away Eyes (Detriot)
Sweet Little 16 (Fort Worth)
Lies (Memphis)
Beast Of Burdon (Fort Worth)
Hound Dog (Memphis)
Shattered (Fort Worth)

Bonus
Walk & Don’t Look Back with Peter Tosh (Memphis)



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Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 27, 2009 23:44

Speaking retrospectively, it is a sad incidence of circumstances that the only official document we have of their 70's prime is from their worst tour of the decade (of course, it was bettered a bit with some 1975 stuff and the legendary El Mocombo side.) Like said here, most probably releasing LOVE YOU LIVE also made the album of 1978 American tour unnecessary.

Seemingly, we can thank Klein and Decca for that. Sad anyway.

- Doxa



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Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: 72stones ()
Date: October 27, 2009 23:53

Like I said in a Pink Floyd thread on another forum today, what we need is to have some R. Crumb type Old Testament God figure to manage to convince Mick Jagger, Universal, ABKCO and former members of the band and their respective legal teams to have a blow-out type meeting and get all of this squared away so that an official bootleg series could come out with shows from all 3 Era's of the band. I'd love it if some figure in the sky could roar out to all the land "Bring thee thy Rolling Stones live shows" in a thunderous voice.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: tumblingdice ()
Date: October 28, 2009 01:00

Not only would official releases be great from this period but I would also love a No Security dvd. One of the best intros and great shows. With all other tours getting a dvd I always hated nothing was ever released for this. But 1978 would have been a good time to release a new live album even after LYL as they played so much new and great material on this tour.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: October 28, 2009 02:53

'72 would have been (and still could be) the greatest live rock album ever released, but a '78 live album wouldn't have made sense. Most of Some Girls and a few warhorses? Why?

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: October 28, 2009 08:47

'72 would have been stupendious!!! Especially with that cool cover of the drawing of the advert bill of the Mick characature.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: October 28, 2009 10:24

The tour 78 bears witness of the art of interweaving in a pure manner. Great versions of "Beast of Burden", "Whip Comes Down", some great Chuck Berry stuff. The band was near to their roots of Rhythm and Blues. So it is a shame that there is no (official) witness to this tour. 72 was the climax of MT, incredible versions of MR, GS and "Love in Vain". So we have only on boots one of the strongest live acts ever.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: October 28, 2009 14:44

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RobertJohnson
The tour 78 bears witness of the art of interweaving in a pure manner. Great versions of "Beast of Burden", "Whip Comes Down", some great Chuck Berry stuff. The band was near to their roots of Rhythm and Blues. So it is a shame that there is no (official) witness to this tour. 72 was the climax of MT, incredible versions of MR, GS and "Love in Vain". So we have only on boots one of the strongest live acts ever.


I'm not saying the '78 shows weren't great, but the setlist, combined with having just released a live double less than a year before, made an official live '78 release pointless.

Re: 1972 & 1978 - NO Official Live Albums
Posted by: dewlover ()
Date: October 28, 2009 14:55

Guess i'll have to be content with my double vinyl album called "Garden State '78", and the single record version, "Out On Bail"...Both excellent recordings from beautiful downtown Passaic, New Jersey...



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