I´m really looking forward to the expanded EXILE release! (Aren´t we all!?)
While waiting i´ve been listening to the album repeatedly the last few days (again...)

So, what tracks are really the best?
These are my favourites - and would have made a killer single LP!:

Rocks Off
Rip This Joint
Shake Your Hips
Tumbling Dice
Sweet Virginia
Torn And Frayed
Loving Cup
Happy
Ventilator Blues
All Down The Line
Stop Breaking Down
Shine a Light

Don´t know about track order - maybe Torn And Frayed should be the last...

will this expanded version to be released on LP's is what counts to me

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

exile would have been great if a single lp.

my favourite 12 songs are

in no particular order

rocks off
rip this joint
tumbling dice
sweet virginia
let it loose
loving cup
torn and frayed
happy
turd on the run
shine a light
loving cup
soul survivor


its a bit sad that the stones didnt record or release those songs gradually over a period of a couple of decades because since then almsot every stones song or album is compared unfavourably to exile.

it's a great double LP...no reason to cut anything.

i was watching a beatles show in Vh-1 yesterday.....George Martin & Ringo were
saying that the White Album should have been edited to a Single LP. Paul McCartney
thought the idea was ridiculous. I agree.


IORR............but I like it!

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wee bobby lennox
exile would have been great if a single lp.

As opposed to being what - a 'not great' double?

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wee bobby lennox
my favourite 12 songs are

in no particular order

rocks off
rip this joint
tumbling dice
sweet virginia
let it loose
loving cup
torn and frayed
happy
turd on the run
shine a light
loving cup
soul survivor

Close to mine - although I'd throw 'Stop Breaking Down' in there somewhere.

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wee bobby lennox
its a bit sad that the stones didnt record or release those songs gradually over a period of a couple of decades

WTF? You're suggesting that they should have 'held back' songs for years - on end - making Exile worse in the process - just to make future albums that they hadnt even written or recorded sound a bit better? (for the record, about half of the songs youve already listed were in fact written and first recorded 2-3 years before they were released)

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wee bobby lennox
because since then almsot every stones song or album is compared unfavourably to exile.

Kind of understandable when its possibly the greatest record ever made. What would you expect? EVERY creative artist in any field of entertainment gets their current work compared to what they've done before.

Have to admit, its the first time I've ever read a post criticising an artist for releasing too many good songs.

In 1972 The Stones were still seen as being in the shadow of the Fab Four. People all over were saying that The Stones copied The Beatles w/their new double album.

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HEILOOBAAS
In 1972 The Stones were still seen as being in the shadow of the Fab Four. People all over were saying that The Stones copied The Beatles w/their new double album.

Why? Just because it was a double like the White Album? By the same logic, the Stones were copying the Beatles already when they released their first Single, EP and album because the Beatles released singles, EPs and albums before....

Exile is a double album; that is what "Exile" IS. Don't be shaking one of the few solid foundations I have.

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HEILOOBAAS
In 1972 The Stones were still seen as being in the shadow of the Fab Four. People all over were saying that The Stones copied The Beatles w/their new double album.

If they did, then they were retarded. Its not as if The Beatles were the first act on the planet to release a double studio album.

Seriously. People were still calling The Stones second best. Remember the times, children. Most of you weren't even born.

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Palace Revolution 2000
Exile is a double album; that is what "Exile" IS. Don't be shaking one of the few solid foundations I have.

Foundation not so solid, perhaps...
Of course it is a double album - and possibly the greatest, too!
But those 12 tracks (see first post) stand above the rest, I think. And they WOULD make a superb LP!!
Perhaps it could be viewed as an alternative to the double - not a substitute...

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HEILOOBAAS
Seriously. People were still calling The Stones second best. Remember the times, children. Most of you weren't even born.

I was.

Ya Da Vinci should have done a Mona Lisa with a scowl, it it could be viewed as an alternative to the original - not a substitute

I did make a single Exile for the sake of what was actually recorded based on publishing of the songs, which looks like this:

Rocks Off
Rip This Joint
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Tumbling Dice
Torn And Frayed
Sweet Black Angel
Happy
Turd On The Run
Ventilator Blues
Let It Loose
All Down The Line
Soul Survior

The rest are on an expanded Sticky Fingers...

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HEILOOBAAS
In 1972 The Stones were still seen as being in the shadow of the Fab Four. People all over were saying that The Stones copied The Beatles w/their new double album.

I was 17 in 1972. I was Rolling Stones fan. I also liked the Beatles.
I do NOT remember people all over saying this.

Wouldn't TD & ADTL be on the expanded Sticky Fingaz since they were mostly ready by then?

The copyright isn't ABKCO, which suggest no. And from everything I've read they worked up Tumbling Dice in 1972.

Simultaneous release of Exile On Main St. 1 and Exile On Main St. 2 - ala GNR's Use Your Illusion twin albums. Keef could even be quoted in RS Magazine saying "I'd buy one and tape the other from your friend on your reel2reel.

Ah, and yet still far superiour to anything GNR ever did no matter what.

Which, by the way, was genius of GNR - here, buy BOTH albums - twice the suck. Maybe 2 or 3 decent songs from the whole lot.

KA-CHING KA-CHING.

A while ago I opened a thread thinking about Exile as a single lp as that was the big critic when it was released. I know, it’s idiotic - in the age of cd anyway. But: What would have been the result if the Stones had been forced to release a single lp? I guess it would have been this choice:

1st criteria: release as a single =
i) Tumbling Dice,
ii) Sweet Black Angel,
iii) Happy,
iv) All Down the Line

2nd criteria: pre-released songs on NME-Flexi-Disc =
"Exile on Main Street Blues" contains (in addition to i bis iv) an excerpt of
v) Shine A Light

3rd criteria: played live during the following US tour (and played on further tours) =
vi) Rocks Off
vii) Sweet Virginia
viii) Rip This Joint

4th criteria: played live during the following US tour (but dropped soon) =
ix) Loving Cup (remember Hyde Park 1969!)
x) Torn And Frayed
xi) Ventilator Blues

5th criteria: representing two reasons to add: rehearsed for the tour plus back-to-the-roots Blues cover just like You Gotta Move from the album before =
xii) Hip Shake

Well alright, but...

A) the lps before (Sticky Fingers) and after (Goat's Head Soup) had only 10 Songs. Which 2 songs of our castrated Exile should be dropped?!

But: Sticky and Goat’s both ran about 46 minutes. This would justify the first 12 songs plus a number 13!:
xiii) Just Wanna See His Face is my choice because the Song starts within Ventilator Blues.

C) What about co-compositions and cover versions?
Hip Shake wins over Stop Breaking Down as more than one cover version (see You Gotta Move on Sticky Fingers) doesn’t seem to be likely.
But: Now we got a Jagger/Richards/Taylor song (Ventilator Blues) as a novelty. Would have Mick J and Keith accepted more than one song „by someone else”?!
No matter: We would miss Casino Boogie, Turd On The Run, Let It Loose, Stop Breaking Down and Soul Survivor – five new candidates for a different Goat's Head Soup...

Somebody (sorry, that I didn’t copy his/her name) added a very interesting aspect to it. “This is how Exile would look had it been reduced by not having the ABKCO tracks on it", he or she wrote:

Rocks Off
Rip This Joint
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Tumbling Dice
Torn And Frayed
Sweet Black Angel
Happy
Turd On The Run
Ventilator Blues
Let It Loose
All Down The Line
Soul Survivor



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-09-12 17:01 by JJHMick.

Stupid thread, there is NO filler on that album.

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TooTough
Stupid thread, there is NO filler on that album.

The album was PANNED when it was released. Compared to the previous three studio albums, Exile was seen as a poorly mixed, indulgent sprawl indicative of a band that had lost its collective inspiration. It was the North American Tour that dispelled all that. & stop being so bloody defensive about Exile. It's a rock & roll album. Sheesh.

"The wonder of Jimi Hendrix was that he could stand up at all he was so pumped full of drugs." Patsy, Patsy Stone

One of the real great double albums of all time. Strictly no filler.

Yeah, it really is one of the best double LPs ever!
I think most of us here agree...
And discussing a "theoretical" single LP does not change that!

Even so, I like this kind of "remakes" of albums - it makes for a nice change in the listening experience for me.
The original is still there to hear...