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i'm gonna eschew the 15-song album and just go with a killer double-sided 45:
she saw me coming/pain of love
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skipstone
I think the context is interesting. Applying this kind of thought to these albums/tracks and finding what grabs you is interesting - because it makes you move past the war horses and actually think and maybe for some listen to these songs again. Are they great songs? Sure, some of them are. As great and definitive as Gimme Shelter, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Brown Sugar etc...? Why not? Maybe. Possibly. Time is a bitch. These songs haven't been around as long. Maybe to someone they are just as good. It's all just different. It's all about each album being its own, each song being its own.
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skipstone
I think the context is interesting. Applying this kind of thought to these albums/tracks and finding what grabs you is interesting - because it makes you move past the war horses and actually think and maybe for some listen to these songs again. Are they great songs? Sure, some of them are. As great and definitive as Gimme Shelter, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Brown Sugar etc...? Why not? Maybe. Possibly. Time is a bitch. These songs haven't been around as long. Maybe to someone they are just as good. It's all just different. It's all about each album being its own, each song being its own.
Agreed. The context for the tracks that have been praised in this thread is that they were released into a world that, even in 1981, already wanted to hear "Brown Sugar" and "Satisfaction" at every show, as well as daily (or more?) on FM radio. Those tracks were already the subjects of ten and fifteen-year love affairs.
I think the band's twenty-year mark is pretty significant, as it seems to be the cutoff for a mass audience to continue embracing new material. And I would say that's even true even for Dylan, Young and Springsteen, who have cult followings within the wider audiences that come out for "Blowin' In The Wind," "Heart Of Gold," and so on. Last tour, I showed up to hear "Back Of My Hand" and "How Can I Stop?" (daydreaming of Wayne-freaking-Shorter on that horn!), but I couldn't escape the hunch that I was in the minority...
Of course, the Stones have been a series of reunions, rather than a working band, since at least 1989. That, along with their nearly exclusive residencies in the hugest venues, has hampered their songwriting, which sometimes seems merely geared for the Big-Ol'-High-Testosterone-Stones-Show [that would be you, "I Go Wild"].
Still, I tend to think that a lot of the latter-day material is remarkably strong and would appear stronger if it were more familiar to a wider audience. After all, it's popular music and context does matter: "Honky Tonk" sounds the way it does because you've heard it at parties and coming out of the car stereo a million times. It's not a personal, private touchstone, it's a giant public event and the whole stadium goes nuts for it. There's no separating that familiarity and shared experience (which can also ruin great records) from how we hear those tunes. We the audience actually poured energy into those records and turned them from would-be cult classics into the standards they are today...
Oh, yeah. In no particular order, here are fifteen strong "latter-day" tracks:
1. "Had It With You" (goes with "Turd On The Run" for me. Clausterphobic rockabilly.)
2. "Fancy Man Blues" (dead-simple Chicago blues with a great sense of irony and an even better harp part from MJ)
3. "Harlem Shuffle IV [London mix]" (for me, the most fully realized version-listen to Keith's Tele up-front and barking during the midsection.)
4. "Thief In The Night/How Can I Stop" (I can't separate them. Trance music followed by soul followed by a free jazz climax. One of the greats.)
5. "Rough Justice" (Sleazy, with a great crunch to it. The opening reminds me of the Faces.)
6. "She Was Hot" (Another brilliantly tossed-off rocker. I would use the SAL Beacon version.)
7. "Hold On To Your Hat" (Scalding, this one.)
8. "Terrifying" (from the "Monitor Mixes." I love that repeating guitar figure-it's kinetic trance music-and all the great percussion elements. Actually akin to "Continental Drift.")
9. "Moon Is Up" (Again, great percussion. Love the distorted harp and the vocals and lyrics.)
10. "Let Me Down Slow" (Funny lyrics, almost Middle Eastern [?] quality to the chorus vocals, cool guitars.)
11. "For You Precious Love" (Gorgeous. Sums up the depth of which they're capable. Can't see how it would have fit on SW, but should be given a prominent place somewhere...)
12."Too Much Blood" (Lots of good stuff on Undercover, but I'll take this.)
13. "Out Of Control" (A monster. "I wonder how time is gonna change her...")
14. "Too Rude" (The live Winos version is the best-'till Keith revives this next tour-right? right?)
15. "The Storm" (The best white blues band going...has been getting better.)
also: "Might As Well Get Juiced," "Continental Drift," Break The Spell," "Low Down," "Back Of My Hand," "Mean Disposition," "Sex Drive," "Slipping Away" and others...