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Aerosmith haven't made a whole album worth buying since Rocks. Everything since then has had, maybe, a couple of good songs. Even Draw the Line, after the title song, which I find @#$%& brilliant, didn't do much for me. I had a friend who used to play Night in the Ruts quite a bit, and I liked a lot of the songs on that, but you could tell things were not right with them by then. Everything from Permanent Vacation on I can't stand the sound of, the way they're recorded, even if I like the song. I'm listening to Honkin' on Bobo right now, and they sucked the life out of the songs with that horrible sound of theirs, Steven Tyler just overdoes his whole schtick these days.Their version of You Gotta Move is horrid, just awful. This is what happens when a middle-aged, multi-million dollar corporation plays the blues. Very well played, but absolutely no soul.

And Van Hagar flat out sucked, some of the worst corporate rock ever made.

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i'd say yes. the band says the reason the tour is still going on is because dates were starting to be booked before these health problems occured that delayed the album. joe perry is doing another solo album too

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boogie69
Aerosmith haven't made a whole album worth buying since Rocks. Everything since then has had, maybe, a couple of good songs. Even Draw the Line, after the title song, which I find @#$%& brilliant, didn't do much for me. I had a friend who used to play Night in the Ruts quite a bit, and I liked a lot of the songs on that, but you could tell things were not right with them by then. Everything from Permanent Vacation on I can't stand the sound of, the way they're recorded, even if I like the song. I'm listening to Honkin' on Bobo right now, and they sucked the life out of the songs with that horrible sound of theirs, Steven Tyler just overdoes his whole schtick these days.Their version of You Gotta Move is horrid, just awful. This is what happens when a middle-aged, multi-million dollar corporation plays the blues. Very well played, but absolutely no soul.

And Van Hagar flat out sucked, some of the worst corporate rock ever made.

A bit harsh, but I find myself agreeing with much of what you said. I wish they would realize that sometimes less is more

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P.U.M.P was the last good original one in my opinion. Although I liked some of Honkin' on Bobo.

I don't know... Nine Lives has some great stuff on it.

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P.U.M.P was the last good original one in my opinion. Although I liked some of Honkin' on Bobo.

I don't know... Nine Lives has some great stuff on it.

Nine Lives to me is the best album these guys have ever done. I love this album. Start to Finish it's fantastic. Different sounds on it, and I listen to it over and over. Bobo had some highlights, as did Just Push Play. I personally love Jaded. Get A Grip I used to listen to alot but it's not aged well. PUMP was pretty darn good. I like Done With Mirrors the best of the Geffen albums. Perry's solo stuff is great too. I saw them on the Nine Lives tour, and they were fantastic, but if they're only playing an hour and a half, what's the sense in that? Not too long of a show for the money. I've heard that Tyler's voice can't do it anymore - is that true?? I definitely feel that this is one band that's beyond it's last leg, and I have just about every album except for the live boot. They're well beyond washed up IMO.

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P.U.M.P was the last good original one in my opinion. Although I liked some of Honkin' on Bobo.

I don't know... Nine Lives has some great stuff on it.

Nine Lives to me is the best album these guys have ever done.

Ever heard Toys in the ATtic or Rocks

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

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P.U.M.P was the last good original one in my opinion. Although I liked some of Honkin' on Bobo.

I don't know... Nine Lives has some great stuff on it.

Nine Lives to me is the best album these guys have ever done.

Ever heard Toys in the ATtic or Rocks

Yes, I have them both, but Nine Lives is without a doubt the best to me. Fallen Angels, Taste of India, Crash, Full Circle, Kiss Your Past Good-bye....great stuff.

Hey it's all personal taste. Just like I don't see what everyone sees with Rambler.....

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.....Many people wish they'd record a new album before they go in tour and of course it would be nice to have some new material to hear, but I personally could care less about that. ........
.....But I know quite a lot of folks on AF1, for example, who're considering - or already know for sure - that they're not gonna attend a concert on their upcoming tour, because it's about the same setlist every time and this time ticket prices are too expensive just to see them perform the same songs they have been playing for a decade.
Sure, I can understand this point of view, but then I know their live shows are always amazing - just watch the tons of videos, read all the reviews etc; If those are great how great is an actual live show then!! - no matter how many times they've played Crying and Jaded and I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing and all the other pop songs. And I would just like to experience their energy and thrill of performance. I mean, who knows how long we'll still have them? For some reason I believe their next album will be the last one and probably this tour's gonna be the last one, too. Who knoes. We should enjoy them as long as we can......
........Now, generally speaking, it would be very cool If they played a whole album in their shows, like Toys In The Attic and the like. Lots of people would die to see this and I'm sure noone would be complaining that much about ticket prices then, because it would be something new and then these prices would be justified. It surely is a slap in the face to their fans, charging prices this high. I mean, come on, who can afford it these days? I feel they've become greedy millionaires and it hurts me to say, really..........

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This sounds alot like what some people think about the Stones?
In fact, most of these issues as they relate to the Stones have been addressed in other threads. New Album. War Horses. Ticket Prices.
What other bands could we say the same of?



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.....Many people wish they'd record a new album before they go in tour and of course it would be nice to have some new material to hear, but I personally could care less about that. ........
.....But I know quite a lot of folks on AF1, for example, who're considering - or already know for sure - that they're not gonna attend a concert on their upcoming tour, because it's about the same setlist every time and this time ticket prices are too expensive just to see them perform the same songs they have been playing for a decade.
Sure, I can understand this point of view, but then I know their live shows are always amazing - just watch the tons of videos, read all the reviews etc; If those are great how great is an actual live show then!! - no matter how many times they've played Crying and Jaded and I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing and all the other pop songs. And I would just like to experience their energy and thrill of performance. I mean, who knows how long we'll still have them? For some reason I believe their next album will be the last one and probably this tour's gonna be the last one, too. Who knoes. We should enjoy them as long as we can......
........Now, generally speaking, it would be very cool If they played a whole album in their shows, like Toys In The Attic and the like. Lots of people would die to see this and I'm sure noone would be complaining that much about ticket prices then, because it would be something new and then these prices would be justified. It surely is a slap in the face to their fans, charging prices this high. I mean, come on, who can afford it these days? I feel they've become greedy millionaires and it hurts me to say, really..........

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This sounds alot like what some people think about the Stones?
In fact, most of these issues as they relate to the Stones have been addressed in other threads. New Album. War Horses. Ticket Prices.
What other bands could we say the same of?

I dunno. Probably those few big "old" bands with their members in the 60s still active today out there?

Well, BUT: For Aerosmith, there doesn't seem to be a recession and economic crisis. They tour STILL charging ticket prices this high, despite these problems. No wonder hardly anybody can really afford it, except If they have been saving on the next Aero tour for months. Don't Tyler and his crew see it's insane?
The Stones did not decide to tour. Yet. And with Jagger being the reasonable business man he is, I doubt that he would want to go on the road in a situation as bad as it is now. In an interview conducted around the release of SAL, If I remember correctly, he said economy always plays a part.

But what Aerosmith are doing is basically telling their fans to fo f*ck themselves!

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Even Joe Perry has made comments about crap like I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing not being on a level with the stuff that made them great.

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Oh I love Aerosmith, they're my second favourite band. Many people wish they'd record a new album before they go in tour and of course it would be nice to have some new material to hear, but I personally could care less about that. Unfortunately, I have never seen them life, so the only thing I want now is to see an Aero show, so for me personally it doesn't matter whether they perform new stuff then or not (sadly, it doesn't look like they're coming to Europe this time - I would go see them). But I know quite a lot of folks on AF1, for example, who're considering - or already know for sure - that they're not gonna attend a concert on their upcoming tour, because it's about the same setlist every time and this time ticket prices are too expensive just to see them perform the same songs they have been playing for a decade.
Sure, I can understand this point of view, but then I know their live shows are always amazing - just watch the tons of videos, read all the reviews etc; If those are great how great is an actual live show then!! - no matter how many times they've played Crying and Jaded and I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing and all the other pop songs. And I would just like to experience their energy and thrill of performance. I mean, who knows how long we'll still have them? For some reason I believe their next album will be the last one and probably this tour's gonna be the last one, too. Who knoes. We should enjoy them as long as we can.
Now, generally speaking, it would be very cool If they played a whole album in their shows, like Toys In The Attic and the like. Lots of people would die to see this and I'm sure noone would be complaining that much about ticket prices then, because it would be something new and then these prices would be justified. It surely is a slap in the face to their fans, charging prices this high. I mean, come on, who can afford it these days? I feel they've become greedy millionaires and it hurts me to say, really.

Re the album: It's sad Aerosmith have been struck by many illnesses and health issues in the past years, but I'm sure that's not the only reason for them not recording a new album in so many years. What annoys the crap outta me is that Perry always says the next one's gonna be awesome and back to the rawness of their early years and all that and that they're working out some great stuff. He talks and talks and talks but nothing ever comes out in the end. I like this band so much and Steven Tyler is absolutely awesome and I love Joe @#$%&' Perry and I agree on Brad Whitford being so underrated. And I think it's a pity most of what they ever come up with is another Best Of album and polished-to-the-hilt-pop songs these days. They could do so much better than that. It shows in some great tracks you get from time to time on albums like Honkin' On Bobo, Get A Grip, Pump and Nine Lives, even on Just Push Play there were two or three really good ones. They still have it in them, but something prevents them from letting it out.

Well, whatever, I still love them and always will and as long as Steven doesn't stop to sing and doing his crazy sports on-stage, JFP continues playing cool solos and Brad "Mr. Sweet Emotion" Whitford keeps strumming those classic Aero riffs and as long as Joey keeps the beat and Tom's the cool one, I would go see and hear them anytime.

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Oh I love Aerosmith, they're my second favourite band. Many people wish they'd record a new album before they go in tour and of course it would be nice to have some new material to hear, but I personally could care less about that. Unfortunately, I have never seen them life, so the only thing I want now is to see an Aero show, so for me personally it doesn't matter whether they perform new stuff then or not (sadly, it doesn't look like they're coming to Europe this time - I would go see them). But I know quite a lot of folks on AF1, for example, who're considering - or already know for sure - that they're not gonna attend a concert on their upcoming tour, because it's about the same setlist every time and this time ticket prices are too expensive just to see them perform the same songs they have been playing for a decade.
Sure, I can understand this point of view, but then I know their live shows are always amazing - just watch the tons of videos, read all the reviews etc; If those are great how great is an actual live show then!! - no matter how many times they've played Crying and Jaded and I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing and all the other pop songs. And I would just like to experience their energy and thrill of performance. I mean, who knows how long we'll still have them? For some reason I believe their next album will be the last one and probably this tour's gonna be the last one, too. Who knoes. We should enjoy them as long as we can.
Now, generally speaking, it would be very cool If they played a whole album in their shows, like Toys In The Attic and the like. Lots of people would die to see this and I'm sure noone would be complaining that much about ticket prices then, because it would be something new and then these prices would be justified. It surely is a slap in the face to their fans, charging prices this high. I mean, come on, who can afford it these days? I feel they've become greedy millionaires and it hurts me to say, really.

Re the album: It's sad Aerosmith have been struck by many illnesses and health issues in the past years, but I'm sure that's not the only reason for them not recording a new album in so many years. What annoys the crap outta me is that Perry always says the next one's gonna be awesome and back to the rawness of their early years and all that and that they're working out some great stuff. He talks and talks and talks but nothing ever comes out in the end. I like this band so much and Steven Tyler is absolutely awesome and I love Joe @#$%&' Perry and I agree on Brad Whitford being so underrated. And I think it's a pity most of what they ever come up with is another Best Of album and polished-to-the-hilt-pop songs these days. They could do so much better than that. It shows in some great tracks you get from time to time on albums like Honkin' On Bobo, Get A Grip, Pump and Nine Lives, even on Just Push Play there were two or three really good ones. They still have it in them, but something prevents them from letting it out.

Well, whatever, I still love them and always will and as long as Steven doesn't stop to sing and doing his crazy sports on-stage, JFP continues playing cool solos and Brad "Mr. Sweet Emotion" Whitford keeps strumming those classic Aero riffs and as long as Joey keeps the beat and Tom's the cool one, I would go see and hear them anytime.