I was just listening to Something Happened To Me Yesterday and guess had never noticed it before but it sounds WAAAAY too much like the Friggin Four, complete with tubas, whistling and Mick's spoken vocals at the end. I nearly threw up.

Was this a deliberate parody or just a result of Beatle "influences"?

And did the Friggin Four ever imitate or parody (2 markedly different things) the Stones?


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In appearance I would say definitely.

"Did the Reverse Happen?"

No.

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I was just listening to Something Happened To Me Yesterday and guess had never noticed it before but it sounds WAAAAY too much like the Friggin Four, complete with tubas, whistling and Mick's spoken vocals at the end. I nearly threw up.

Was this a deliberate parody or just a result of Beatle "influences"?

And did the Friggin Four ever imitate or parody (2 markedly different things) the Stones?


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Plexi

I've always thought of it as very KINKS influenced...

Which Beatles song prior to this had spoken vocals at the end?



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>> did the Beatles ever imitate the Stones? <<

Keith was playing an Epiphone Casino before the Beatles got theirs

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>> did the Beatles ever imitate the Stones? <<

Keith was playing an Epiphone Casino before the Beatles got theirs

And the Stones ditched their suits & performed in casual clothes first.

Well, maybe it is rather preposterous to say, but I have the feeling that The Beatles were
inspired to record "Roll over Beethoven" because our boys had a huge succes with their first
Chuck Berry penned single Come on in 1963.

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Well, maybe it is rather preposterous to say, but I have the feeling that The Beatles were
inspired to record "Roll over Beethoven" because our boys had a huge succes with their first
Chuck Berry penned single Come on in 1963.

'Come On' only got to number 21 in the charts, hardly a "huge success"!

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'Come On' only got to number 21 in the charts, hardly a "huge success"!

Well, enough of a succes to be in every television show all summer and to get John and Paul
coming to the studio to witness this new band everyone was talking about.

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'Come On' only got to number 21 in the charts, hardly a "huge success"!

Well, enough of a succes to be in every television show all summer and to get John and Paul
coming to the studio to witness this new band everyone was talking about.

Every television show all summer??? I think it was actually just two major TV shows + one regional show in the north of England.

Other people were covering Berry more successfully at the time (maybe Dave Berry's top 20 hit with 'Memphis Tennessee' influenced The Beatles?).



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In certain respects the Stones were ahead of the Fab4.
They were certainly ahead in terms of managing themselves. By late 1967 there was really only Klein -and as Mick said at the time "he's only finance".
They had - so they thought until the penny dropped - planned to have at least some ownership of recording and music publishing copyrights when it was almost unheard of for artists to have such control.
The Beatles were only forced into purchasing music rights because of the Northen Songs sale.
Of course much of what Ive said relates to ALO's moves - unfortunately in the end he was only looking after himself.
Thw first 2 LP's-remember the covers? - were also quite far ahead for their time.
And ALO's prose on the back cover was also not hte normal standard drivel of the time, well, in hindsight, it was just another form of drivel.
The Stones were better dresssers-more stylish, particularly Brian.
There 'air were longer too!
I'm sure there are other examples.

I always saw "Tell me (you're coming back to me)" as a 'Fab 4 spoof'; a genuine parody of the Beatles, done by the Stones... the grotesque sounding vocal harmonies, the 'sirupy' chorus, the lame beat, etc. ...
But that's an 'OT' observation in this thread, off course.
As far as the original Q is concerned: I really wouldn't know. But I don't think so!?...

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I always saw "Tell me (you're coming back to me)" as a 'Fab 4 spoof'; a genuine parody of the Beatles, done by the Stones... the grotesque sounding vocal harmonies, the 'sirupy' chorus, the lame beat, etc. ...
But that's an 'OT' observation in this thread, off course.
As far as the original Q is concerned: I really wouldn't know. But I don't think so!?...

I agree to a certain extent with 'Tell Me' (though I'm guessing songs like this were influenced by the whole Merseybeat scene rather than specifically The Beatles), but certainly not with 'Something Happened To Me Yesterday'. In fact I can hear the whole London scene at the time (The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Who, etc) all over 'Between The Buttons'.

George Harrison once admited that the "Day Tripper" riff was the Beatles' attempt to come up with a riff that was similar to "The Last Time".

Also, the appearance of a band like the Stones forced the Beatles to get away from that teenybopper pop songwriting they had going on in their early days so yes, the Stones did influence the Beatles.

Heh, John Lennon famously claimed in that bitter '70 Rolling Stone interview that The Stones were always following them. What they did first, The Stones made few months after. Then he gave the examples like Yesterdy -> As Tears Go By, All You Need Is Love -> We Love You and PEPPER -> SATANIC MAJESTIES.

If John is right - it is debatable - I think the conclusion is that following Beatles always lead them musical disasters. Compared what they did by their own instics - say, "The Last Time", "Satisfaction", "Jumpin Jack Flash", "Sympathy For The Devil", "Street Fighting Man", "Honky Tonk Women" - it was VERY good that they didn't ape the FabFour more than that!

But like said in some posts above, the 'wild' Stones with their strong rocking sounds and attitude also kicked a bit the balls of The Beatles, too. This I am sure pissed at laest John.

Generally, I don't think The Beatles really affected a lot to the music or its style of the Stones. It was more their example as a band with success, profilic original songcraft (Lennon-McCartney->Jagger/Richard), and the idea how to make coherent, strong albums.

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Come together is inspired by the Stones.

The Stones had Allen Klein first.

Memo From Tina Turner's analysis in general is the correct one. Any Beatles rock tune is the answer to a Stones tune.
To me songs like I'm Free, Take It or Leave It (the latta-harmonies if) and in some respect Dandelion are Beatlesque - hardly their No. 1 singles.
Doxa mentions Lennon's quote. Let's have a look: As Tears Go By is older than Yesterday, the word love is no registered trademark and so on.
The Beatles as the first? They didn't invent/commercialise psychedelia, Pink Floyd did. The Beatles weren't first using the Sitar, the Byrds (or the Hollies?) were.
Oh yes, John Lennon is correct in one thing: The Beatles started drugs before the Stones...

I think McCartney once mentioned that Day Tripper was the result of hearing the Stones Satisfaction.

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I think McCartney once mentioned that Day Tripper was the result of hearing the Stones Satisfaction.

In any case, there is a point in that CHARLIE IS MY DARLING scene where Mick and Keith make fun of the Day Tripper guitar riff.

(All in all, I think the role of The Beatles as the trend leaders - after their breakthrough - is hugely over-estimated. More is to say that they were very quick to respond to any new intersting idea and a potential trend and adapt it and make their own, very succesfull versions out of it. This IS a mark of their great genious. The Stones, were in this sense quite similar to them.)

- Doxa

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In any case, there is a point in that CHARLIE IS MY DARLING scene where Mick and Keith make fun of the Day Tripper guitar riff.

No they don't: that's 'I Feel Fine'. 'Day Tripper' hadn't even been written at the time.



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Come together is inspired by the Stones.

Nope, that was Chuck Berry.

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All in all, I think the role of The Beatles as the trend leaders - after their breakthrough - is hugely over-estimated. More is to say that they were very quick to respond to any new intersting idea and a potential trend and adapt it and make their own, very succesfull versions out of it. This IS a mark of their great genious. The Stones, were in this sense quite similar to them.

I agree, & many (not all) Beatles fans are very ignorant of other music. A|t least one die-hard Beatles fan truly believes that 'Abbey Road' influenced 'Tommy'!

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The Beatles weren't first using the Sitar, the Byrds (or the Hollies?) were.

I believe it was actually Jeff Beck in The Yardbirds.

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In any case, there is a point in that CHARLIE IS MY DARLING scene where Mick and Keith make fun of the Day Tripper guitar riff.

No they don't: that's 'I Feel Fine'. 'Day Tripper' hadn't even been written at the time.

Oh sorry, I remember that one wrong. Thanks for correcting me.

- Doza

Something Happened to me yesterday reminds me of Blood Sweat& Tears.

Well put Doxa
I always understood my favorite Stones songs were not Beatle influenced,
and John's ego/jealousy issues surfaced when threatened by the Stones. It's too bad
JL had these issues, that's part of the mosaic that is oh no yoko oh no.

Two words:

Nicky Hopkins

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I think McCartney once mentioned that Day Tripper was the result of hearing the Stones Satisfaction.

(All in all, I think the role of The Beatles as the trend leaders - after their breakthrough - is hugely over-estimated. More is to say that they were very quick to respond to any new intersting idea and a potential trend and adapt it and make their own, very succesfull versions out of it. This IS a mark of their great genious. The Stones, were in this sense quite similar to them.)

- Doxa

Yeah, I know what you mean. Poster Sleepy City is also right about that. I once read that some thought the Beatles were inspired, borrowed, co opted, or stole from the San Francisco sound.

I pretty certain I heard, or read an interview with McCartney about the Day Tripper vs. Satisfaction thing. I recall McCartney also talking about Helter Skelter being an attempt at a dirty sound after hearing some other bands song( Who's My Generation??).

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I recall McCartney also talking about Helter Skelter being an attempt at a dirty sound after hearing some other bands song( Who's My Generation??).

Close: It was after reading a review for 'I Can See For Miles', but when Macca actually heard the song he thought it was nothing like what he read in the review, so he attempted to make the song he imagined it to be.