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stoned in washington dc
Clapton blows period.
Mick's singing is amazing! He is an incredible lead singer/front man. I don't know what band you guys are watching but he's carrying the band. Yes he doesn't growl anymore or sing like he's got cocaine nasal drip going on: he sings better than ever with what he's got today!
The issue is Keith's guitar playing has suffered probably due to this arthritis.
I also think Chuck Leavell should be fired immediately and pretty much the rest of the backing band.. They should just be the five of them and then a good piano (first)/keyboard(second) player.. someone with a less clean pretty sound...
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I also think Chuck Leavell should be fired immediately and pretty much the rest of the backing band.. They should just be the five of them and then a good piano (first)/keyboard(second) player.. someone with a less clean pretty sound...
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skipstone
Why does this upset people so much NOW? When they've been doing this for almost THREE decades now!
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Gazza
This is quite correct. It's a two-way street. If you're going to hike up ticket prices, then you're effectively making some kind of statement of intent about the standard of the show you're going to present.
In doing so, you're raising the level of the ticket buyer's expectations.
And in terms of the 'tourists' coming to these shows, you're effectively handing over the control of what songs you choose to play to them.
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ablett
Isn't it a shame that the top 5 threads on this board, 3 are negative towards the stones.....
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ablett
Isn't it a shame that the top 5 threads on this board, 3 are negative towards the stones.....
If anything, it only confirms that there is definitely a problem going on. A few years ago...a thread like this would've died out and been blasted. But more and more people are noticing the dip in the Stones' performing quality...it's becoming a more secure reality now....
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kees
Clapton maybe boring in the way that the does not pose on stage like the two Stones clowns. But man, he can stil play! He has got great muscians around him too.
I am not fond of his albums but can;t get enough of Clapton bootlegs except for the 80/90 period (too much organ in it).
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dcba
"what's wrong with them playing stadiums and doing all the hits people wanna hear?"
By people you say "the majority". Me I think the majority's always wrong.
Dylan doesn't play what people want to hear.
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timbernardis
"a more secure reality" -- what phraseology, what a quote. SO, it is more of a reality just cuz it is in the minds of some of the big time and long time fanatics? Does that mean it is so. This is like the old @#$%& theory of tell the people something enough times and they will believe it, that it will create its own reality.
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timbernardis
"a more secure reality" -- what phraseology, what a quote. SO, it is more of a reality just cuz it is in the minds of some of the big time and long time fanatics? Does that mean it is so. This is like the old @#$%& theory of tell the people something enough times and they will believe it, that it will create its own reality.
that @#$%& comparison is, sorry, unbelievably silly. you imply that one person or a small group of fans started to create an imaginary "negative Stones reality" and are repeating it over and over to make people believe them - a conspiracy theory, so to speak. in fact its you who sees things through the plexiglass.
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GNAT
You still have the option to stay home. No, I never have liked Dylan, but I have no desire to put him down and spoil his concerts for those who do like him. Understand?
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timbernardis
Doxa wrote:
Sometimes I feel like there is a kind of collective hush-hush around The Rolling Stones: that no-one - the band, the fans - do not really want to face the facts, but continue instead like "nothing has really happened" even though these guys are not anymore in the condition to deliver their demading act anymore. It is only by the help of huge self-belt, and Vegas organization and fixed antics (the songs, etc.) they are to able to deliver their act like robots.
R U privy to the inner circle that is the band? As Mr. Spock used to say, "Projection, Captain, unreal." I think u are projecting something that is not there, that is unreal, or at the very least, that you cannot know with any degree of certainty. And u know what psychologists say about projection.
"Act like robots" -- give everyone a break -- how do u know the difference between when they are just cashing it in and when the music, smiles, stage moves, etc are real? Assumption, captain, without any real evidence. Do u know their innermost thoughts and feelings? Prove it.
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GNAT
Me, I'm looking forward to the next tour. I'm still making memories to enjoy when they do call it quits.
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timbernardis
"a more secure reality" -- what phraseology, what a quote. SO, it is more of a reality just cuz it is in the minds of some of the big time and long time fanatics? Does that mean it is so. This is like the old @#$%& theory of tell the people something enough times and they will believe it, that it will create its own reality.
that @#$%& comparison is, sorry, unbelievably silly. you imply that one person or a small group of fans started to create an imaginary "negative Stones reality" and are repeating it over and over to make people believe them - a conspiracy theory, so to speak. in fact its you who sees things through the plexiglass.
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timbernardis
Doxa wrote:
Sometimes I feel like there is a kind of collective hush-hush around The Rolling Stones: that no-one - the band, the fans - do not really want to face the facts, but continue instead like "nothing has really happened" even though these guys are not anymore in the condition to deliver their demading act anymore. It is only by the help of huge self-belt, and Vegas organization and fixed antics (the songs, etc.) they are to able to deliver their act like robots.
R U privy to the inner circle that is the band? As Mr. Spock used to say, "Projection, Captain, unreal." I think u are projecting something that is not there, that is unreal, or at the very least, that you cannot know with any degree of certainty. And u know what psychologists say about projection.
"Act like robots" -- give everyone a break -- how do u know the difference between when they are just cashing it in and when the music, smiles, stage moves, etc are real? Assumption, captain, without any real evidence. Do u know their innermost thoughts and feelings? Prove it.
I don't think I don't need to be any kind of "privy to the inner circle" to express in my chosen terms what I feel (remember, I started the quite by "sometimes I feel like" - there is not much indication to a strong degree of certainty but instead that of speculation) or to make judgments based on the evidence I happen to see and hear with my own very eyes and ears, and relate it to the things I already happen to know about the matter. . I'm not here to make scientific experiments but just talk about the things I observe with my chosen terms (and perhaps try to explain the thing I see with more speculative terms like now). The only "proof" I have is that if what I say might click with the observations by some other Stones fellow fans, or if they might find my observations or 'explanations' interesting. But, basically, it is just talk. As far as psychologists go, I am sure they might have say a lot of interesting stuff about my Stones-obsession.
My 'robot' metaphor is based on wittnessing the countless repitive of same movements, same poses, same manouvres, same songs, same everything in the Rolling Stones shows. It is a synonynous what is sometimes expressed with the term "autopilot". When you repeat the same thing enough times you will do it half-consciusly. There is not much creative spark there. I find it strange if you don't recognize anything of the sort in the Rolling Stones performances, say, within the last ten years or something.
- Doxa
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GNAT
Me, I'm looking forward to the next tour. I'm still making memories to enjoy when they do call it quits.
GNAT, that was a GREAT statement and worth quoting. I love that -- some of u may continually be disappointed and disgusted and critical but I'M STILL MAKING MEMORIES.
That's exactly the way I feel -- I had more fun on the Bigger Bang tour than on any other Stones tour ever. Regardless of how the music may have changed -- for better or worse -- than in the past.
Keep it up. Thanks.
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