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deardoctor
So dear Stones, please stop it before it´s going to be too ridiculous!!!!!!
What about a Jagger solo-tour with fresh musicans like in 1988?
So - now crucify me...
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melillo
that mick solo tour was awful, THE FAKE STONES
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melillo
yeah i mean the guy goes on a SOLO TOUR and does 90 percent stones set, what gives mick?
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socialdistortion
..meanwhile you got Keith, Ronnie, Mick, Charlie, Darryl, Blondie, Chuck, Bernard, Lisa, Bobby, plus 3 = 13 freakin people. Oy vey!
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melillo
yeah i mean the guy goes on a SOLO TOUR and does 90 percent stones set, what gives mick?
The vocals:90% of the RS music after Keith got problems with his fingers.
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melillo
yeah i mean the guy goes on a SOLO TOUR and does 90 percent stones set, what gives mick?
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melillo
that mick solo tour was awful, THE FAKE STONES
i have trouble with that tour, too. and among other unfortunate things, it became the model for '89 and beyond for the stones live act.
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elunsi
I think the reason the Stones went back together was, because Keith did the phonecall this time. I see that as a sort of apology call, and of course Mick went back to work with Keith. After all he never wanted to leave the Stones to start a solo career instead of the Stones. All what he wanted to do was a solo record. So he had no reason not to work with Keith again, when the chemestry is there again. I am sure it was not the money, they were already rich, and it was not fame, they were already famous. I never believed in that superstar thing as Mick´s only motivation.
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elunsi
Jagger had total power over the Stones from 1970 on as for touring. And in the studio he was the boss the same as Keith.
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deardoctor
To mention one thing: I agree totally what you wrote, especially about the boring ABB, we don´t know any outakes of Bridges to B., but at least for steel wheels and voodoo L. Keith got an enormous influence. Lot´s of rough versions with his voice. Maybe Keith lives his image (clown and pirate, not a serious guitar player anymore) since the late 90s
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timbernardis
you guys sound like a bunch of spoiled USC fans -- if ya dont win the league title and go to the Rose Bowl or BCS every year, ya complain and say it has been a shitty year.
Be happy they are still around, and playing as well as they still do, even if it is not as great as it once was (and I am not conceding that this is the case).
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deardoctor
I promise you, in a few years we all wish that they should have stopped once - with honour. As I said - have a look at chuck Berry now.
Only repeating the last tours, while every time getting little worse, are these the stones you love? Come on brother this way to die is too cheap
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deardoctor
I promise you, in a few years we all wish that they should have stopped once - with honour. As I said - have a look at chuck Berry now.
Only repeating the last tours, while every time getting little worse, are these the stones you love? Come on brother this way to die is too cheap
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melillo
yeah i mean the guy goes on a SOLO TOUR and does 90 percent stones set, what gives mick?
The vocals:90% of the RS music after Keith got problems with his fingers.
huh?
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timbernardis
Be happy they are still around, and playing as well as they still do, even if it is not as great as it once was (and I am not conceding that this is the case).
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jamesfdouglas
If Mick did a solo tour, doing his own stuff, some Stones, some great covers, and didn't charge a kazillion bucks - damn right I'd be first in line.
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Doxa
(...)
So Mick gave the orders - take the 'professional' concept of arranging the music and how is to be to presented live. Most of important part of the deal was that the band was not longer depended on the shaky hands and heads of the guitarists. Mick brought the legacy of players to make sure that the band will rock steadily. Keith got a nice free passenger role in the band he once lead by his instincts and will. He was a co-frontman with Mick without the real power to make decisions. Mick needs Keith in order to keep the image of band alive - and to an extent, that is true of Ronnie, too. But both of those guys can fool as much as they can - it's good they do that because that's works for The Stones - as long as they don't mess with business and other important things. Jagger has TOTAL control over the Stones music nowadays, as far as touring goes.
The 'problem' is that in studio Keith has always been the boss - for example, the others needed to have lived "Keith's time" but Jagger seems to have taken care of that too. This is done, let me speculate, in terms of few constructed principles:
(a) do as few records as possible
(b) do those only when it is needed for image reasons
(c) when that is needed, spend as little time as possible in the studio.
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It looks like that the deal Ron Wood made with the devil in 1975 - to have a chance to play in the greatest rock and roll band in the world but in the cost of losing one's own artistic identity and creativity - Keith Richards did in 1989.
- Doxa
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jamesfdouglas
If Mick did a solo tour, doing his own stuff, some Stones, some great covers, and didn't charge a kazillion bucks - damn right I'd be first in line.
He is still Mick Jagger - I'm right behind you in line.
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timbernardis
you guys sound like a bunch of spoiled USC fans -- if ya dont win the league title and go to the Rose Bowl or BCS every year, ya complain and say it has been a shitty year.
Be happy they are still around, and playing as well as they still do, even if it is not as great as it once was (and I am not conceding that this is the case).
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Being happy they are still around does not prevent us to discuss critically of their doings. I think it is a right of any music fan to make judgments of his/her own and express them. At least partly the point of forums like iORR is to discuss The Rolling Stones. This is what we do here.
- Doxa