Nowadays the groups are so boring, it was more fun when I was young.

YEP humour...just a step behind air....



ROCKMAN

Lighten up, Svartmer, WILL 'YA?

Here, have an ice cream:

"rock 'n' roll's greatest weapon is humour. if it ain't fun, it's nothing."

keith richards 1983



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You gotta have some humour......

"Humor is absolutely important to a rock and roll record. When you think about the first rock and roll records, you hear Great Balls of Fire and Poison Ivy and Along Came Jones and a lot of Chuck Berry, and there's a lot of humor in it. And it has to sort of balance out. I mean, I really hate the dirges. I like it better to make you laugh in one line and make you cry in the next." Keith Richards, 2005.

Absolutely!!!!




IORR............but I like it!

There was a music mag with Charlie on the cover (Black And Blue suit, as far as I remember) saying: Would you buy a used Stones record from this man?

Zappa would probably say yes.

yeah, but humor, IMO, can't be the whole point. Then you have something like They Might Be Giants. Or Zappa. They might be interesting in some ways, but I don't really find acts like those musical.

Some funny guys...

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Ricky Tomlinson

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yeah, but humor, IMO, can't be the whole point. Then you have something like They Might Be Giants. Or Zappa. They might be interesting in some ways, but I don't really find acts like those musical.

Frank Zappa wasn't musical?

Now that's humourous!

Zappa was a genius !!


And now he's entertaning them in Rock & Roll Heaven .

Ol Mac Donald

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yeah, but humor, IMO, can't be the whole point. Then you have something like They Might Be Giants. Or Zappa. They might be interesting in some ways, but I don't really find acts like those musical.

Zappa, like him or not, is probably one of the best musicians the world has seen in the last 100 years. Of course some of his stuff was quite unlistenable to the untrained ear, it was an acquired taste in many cases, but always highly musical. That man knew what he was doing, and that was the basis for his diversity.
Not acknowledging his talent, that´s stupid...

Vilhelm
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yeah, but humor, IMO, can't be the whole point. Then you have something like They Might Be Giants. Or Zappa. They might be interesting in some ways, but I don't really find acts like those musical.

try his instrumental albums, then.

They're not a barrel of laughs but as a guitarist he had few equals.

I can take or leave a lot of his work, but musically - what Vilhelm says above is pretty much spot on.

Thanks Gazza. I also have a hard time with all his stuff, of what I heard so far. I tend to stick with the humourous side.

Vilhelm
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where did I say Zappa didn't have talent? Of course he could shred on the guitar, and he was clearly a very intelligent and witty person. I just don't find the combination at all listenable. His guitar playing albums are even less to my taste. It's not about "training," Vilhelm--I'm trained, thank you. It's about stylistic preference. And I'm hardly alone: none of the musicians I admire show much interest in his work, to my knowledge. Though I suppose John Lydon might be a supporter... but I could just as easily imagine him feeling the same way I do.

Zappa's a perfect example of why I don't like music whose main point is humor or satire, the subject of the thread. His friend Captain Beefheart is another story...

Harry Nilsson had a wonderful sense of humor:






NRBQ uses humor to make a point-- "You do the polka to the drum machine..."






Newman was also making a point with a joke





another fine example:







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Humor is great - that is one thing I have always thought was one of the magic ingredients in the great Stones. And Jagger when he is good, has always shown deep smart humor in his lyrics. That is another thing he has lost.
But I see what CC is saying. That is the same problem I have with Zappa. No one would ever doubt Zappa's musical training, his chops, imagination, his bands - I think that is sort of the main reason he nerves me. Someone that good spends SO MUCH time talking about yoohoo bottles etc? By the time the 80's came around Zappa's shtick had worn very thin: that low throb, with him doing that rap on top, going into the quirky chorus with Ruth Underwood doing her runs, putting down valley girls and disco boys etc. Zappa's lyrics is something one easily outgrows; his music a whole different matter.

Luke "Whoa Boy" McDaniel somewhere in the mid-50's



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quirky

yes, I think that's the key element to avoid for me--"quirkiness." Maybe the term "humor" is too broad. For example, one of my favorite artists is Warren Zevon, who was witty and sardonic and whose stage banter always makes me laugh out loud. But he never made "quirky" music where you'd say, "oh that's so clever" in a high school trivia sort of way, which is the feeling I get from Zappa.

According to Rod Stewart.

the Faces: good-humored, not quirky.

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Humor is great - that is one thing I have always thought was one of the magic ingredients in the great Stones. And Jagger when he is good, has always shown deep smart humor in his lyrics. That is another thing he has lost.

Palace, Rev, yes, to the humor in the Stones! The lyrics have always contained what you call "smart humor", to me, and still do, to some degree. I have found Mick Jagger open to humor in performance too, very much so, though more often between songs than during, perhaps. Keith's sense of humor is there quite a lot too, no, onstage and off? The humor in the Rolling Stones is part of what drew me in the first place. I've always thought they were very funny.

cc, you may be fighting an eternal battle on this one, in that styles of humor differ widely, and Zappa has quite a varied output, not to everyones taste, of course. :-) What were you going to say about Captain Beefheart?

I perfer the humor to be in the lyrics.

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