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Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Hey, no problem. You're right of course! I just added Oakland later and missed the right "category", you see ;-) So, nothing to fight about.
is this all part of the "takes one to know one" doctrine?
You Tell Me.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
If u were there, it WAS a great show, the best of the 7 (of the first 8 except for isle) which i saw.
BTW, which Lyon boot r u speaking of?
p
yeah, back offa sweetcharmedlife.
plexi
So what's the best video boot you have Tim?
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
From the ones I've heard, I reckon Glasgow must be the best sounding one, at least juding by mainstream tastes, as it's from a radio transmission. Personally, I don't like this recording too much - it's your typical radio sound with heavy compression, too much bass and muffled somehow. Of the remaining shows, I'd say Stuttgart 2006, Werchter 2007, Isle Of Wight 2007 and London 2007 (first show) are the best sounding ones (strictly speaking of soundquality, that is). Overall I'd pick Stuttgart - which is an excellent AUD-recording and a much more powerful show than, say, Werchter (which has a very interesting setlist, but is a complete trainwreck performance-wise).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-13 12:08 by Greenblues.
Of course, my A Stones Week in London in which I shot the first show, the Tim Ries gig the next night, and footage of the scene including band members outside of Simpson's after the last show. Of course, anything by Plexiglass Productions is simply superb. juskiddin
Seriously, maybe Saitama (of course that is a boot from a show broadcast on Japanese TV) but I also like Dodger Stadium quite a bit. That seems to have been a multi-cam effort and parts almost seem official -- I don't see how they could have gotten some of the shots they did at such a "professional angle" without permission unless it was just something from the giant screen.
Speaking of multi-cam, the final O2 show was remastered with sources from 6 (I thing actually 8) cams and the sound is quite good by a guy from Sweden. He also includes pre-show stuff both official (rs.com) and unofficial (the scene out in front of the Pilot where some of us can be seen (not me) including some guy playing a guitar and another dancing, singing and generally doing a not-bad Jagger imitation.
I am trying to get a hold of Sici's Vancouver recording but haven't yet succeeded.
plex
Are you sure
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Thanx, Greenblues.
I must say normally I feel similar with Glasgow. Years ago these kind of recordings wouldn't have moved me at all.
But the first boots from BB that I'd heard were so bad (esp. from the performances) that I now name Glasgow as one of the best!
BB was to me the first tour that I really grew tired of the released boots because of the lack of quality.
But I'll have a look at shows like Stuttgart!
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Greenblues
()
Date: February 12, 2009 13:45
(edited - see next post)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-12 14:11 by Greenblues.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-12 14:11 by Greenblues.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Greenblues
()
Date: February 12, 2009 13:49
Referring to the European legs of ABB I'd pick
Stuttgart 2006 (stirring!)
Oakland 2006
Düsseldorf 2007
Hamburg 2007 (to me the best among these three)
London 2007 (1st show - the matrix mix version is particularly impressive)
btw. Frankfurt 2007 is surprisingly good!
I find the US-dates much harder to judge, especially since I don't know all of the many, many recordings. But from what I have, I really like Houston 2005.
And the Far Eastern dates...well, I'm not to impressed by those shows from Japan. To be honest, I find their playing quite lousy here. Saitama is the best performance, but I somehow lost interest soon and didn't compare it to the later parts of their ABB trek
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Stuttgart 2006 (stirring!)
Oakland 2006
Düsseldorf 2007
Hamburg 2007 (to me the best among these three)
London 2007 (1st show - the matrix mix version is particularly impressive)
btw. Frankfurt 2007 is surprisingly good!
I find the US-dates much harder to judge, especially since I don't know all of the many, many recordings. But from what I have, I really like Houston 2005.
And the Far Eastern dates...well, I'm not to impressed by those shows from Japan. To be honest, I find their playing quite lousy here. Saitama is the best performance, but I somehow lost interest soon and didn't compare it to the later parts of their ABB trek
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-12 14:33 by Greenblues.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 12, 2009 17:30
I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: February 12, 2009 17:43
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 12, 2009 18:52
Quote
dcba
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Greenblues
()
Date: February 12, 2009 19:17
Quote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
dcba
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
Hey, no problem. You're right of course! I just added Oakland later and missed the right "category", you see ;-) So, nothing to fight about.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: February 12, 2009 19:41
Quote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
dcba
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
is this all part of the "takes one to know one" doctrine?
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 12, 2009 20:19
Quote
T&AQuote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
dcba
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
is this all part of the "takes one to know one" doctrine?
You Tell Me.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Tell me... Sister M...
()
Date: February 12, 2009 20:27
werchter 2007
not the best show but the best audience recording
not the best show but the best audience recording
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
CousinC
()
Date: February 13, 2009 02:30
Good Werchter (been there) - but from what source?
And I'd like to know from someone who really heard many of them, what are the best (soundquality +/or performance?)boots from B.Bang tour!?
I had some from Japan and US and found them mostly quite lousy! Most of them I couldn't even listen to until the end.
From Europe I heard just a few. The one -and only till now - I liked was Glasgow!
Some have been mentioned now before. But which are really the best sounding (from Europe)?? Any help?!
And I'd like to know from someone who really heard many of them, what are the best (soundquality +/or performance?)boots from B.Bang tour!?
I had some from Japan and US and found them mostly quite lousy! Most of them I couldn't even listen to until the end.
From Europe I heard just a few. The one -and only till now - I liked was Glasgow!
Some have been mentioned now before. But which are really the best sounding (from Europe)?? Any help?!
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:17
Quote
dcba
Lyon 2007 aka "the resurection show" is over-rated imo. The playnig is more often sloppy than tight.
If u were there, it WAS a great show, the best of the 7 (of the first 8 except for isle) which i saw.
BTW, which Lyon boot r u speaking of?
p
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:22
Quote
GreenbluesQuote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
dcba
"I didn't realize Oakland was in Europe."
C'mon don't be a prick... leave to those who do it on a 24/24 basis
Excuse me? I don't think pointing out that Oakland is not in Europe is being a prick. Calling someone a prick is being a prick
Hey, no problem. You're right of course! I just added Oakland later and missed the right "category", you see ;-) So, nothing to fight about.
yeah, back offa sweetcharmedlife.
plexi
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:25
Thanks everyone for your opinions on this thread. I attended the most shows of any one tour for me -- 27 but I really don't have that many audio boots. Probably have more video boots of it than audio.
This will help guide me in what to go after and get.
Thanks.
p
This will help guide me in what to go after and get.
Thanks.
p
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:48
OH, still searching for ANY recording of Missoula, Montana 4 October 06. The one and only show they have ever played in this state, and not a friggin recording exists that i know of. shoulda taped the bastard meself!
p
p
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 13, 2009 06:49
Quote
timbernardis
Thanks everyone for your opinions on this thread. I attended the most shows of any one tour for me -- 27 but I really don't have that many audio boots. Probably have more video boots of it than audio.
This will help guide me in what to go after and get.
Thanks.
p
So what's the best video boot you have Tim?
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Greenblues
()
Date: February 13, 2009 12:08
Quote
CousinC
Good Werchter (been there) - but from what source?
And I'd like to know from someone who really heard many of them, what are the best (soundquality +/or performance?)boots from B.Bang tour!?
I had some from Japan and US and found them mostly quite lousy! Most of them I couldn't even listen to until the end.
From Europe I heard just a few. The one -and only till now - I liked was Glasgow!
Some have been mentioned now before. But which are really the best sounding (from Europe)?? Any help?!
From the ones I've heard, I reckon Glasgow must be the best sounding one, at least juding by mainstream tastes, as it's from a radio transmission. Personally, I don't like this recording too much - it's your typical radio sound with heavy compression, too much bass and muffled somehow. Of the remaining shows, I'd say Stuttgart 2006, Werchter 2007, Isle Of Wight 2007 and London 2007 (first show) are the best sounding ones (strictly speaking of soundquality, that is). Overall I'd pick Stuttgart - which is an excellent AUD-recording and a much more powerful show than, say, Werchter (which has a very interesting setlist, but is a complete trainwreck performance-wise).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-13 12:08 by Greenblues.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 16:35
Quote
timbernardis
Thanks everyone for your opinions on this thread. I attended the most shows of any one tour for me -- 27 but I really don't have that many audio boots. Probably have more video boots of it than audio.
This will help guide me in what to go after and get.
p
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
So what's the best video boot you have Tim?
Of course, my A Stones Week in London in which I shot the first show, the Tim Ries gig the next night, and footage of the scene including band members outside of Simpson's after the last show. Of course, anything by Plexiglass Productions is simply superb. juskiddin
Seriously, maybe Saitama (of course that is a boot from a show broadcast on Japanese TV) but I also like Dodger Stadium quite a bit. That seems to have been a multi-cam effort and parts almost seem official -- I don't see how they could have gotten some of the shots they did at such a "professional angle" without permission unless it was just something from the giant screen.
Speaking of multi-cam, the final O2 show was remastered with sources from 6 (I thing actually 8) cams and the sound is quite good by a guy from Sweden. He also includes pre-show stuff both official (rs.com) and unofficial (the scene out in front of the Pilot where some of us can be seen (not me) including some guy playing a guitar and another dancing, singing and generally doing a not-bad Jagger imitation.
I am trying to get a hold of Sici's Vancouver recording but haven't yet succeeded.
plex
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: February 13, 2009 16:44
drake's recordings of Cincinnati and Atlanta 2006 are good audience recordings - even some commentary from our hero, "ohnonotyouagain".
These cities are not in Europe.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-13 16:45 by Elmo Lewis.
These cities are not in Europe.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-13 16:45 by Elmo Lewis.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 13, 2009 16:46
Saitama has great sound, but there are a lot of trainwrecks... Glasgow is good, imo. Hollywood Bowl is ok too.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 13, 2009 17:30
Quote
Elmo Lewis
drake's recordings of Cincinnati and Atlanta 2006 are good audience recordings - even some commentary from our hero, "ohnonotyouagain".
These cities are not in Europe.
Are you sure
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
CousinC
()
Date: February 13, 2009 18:33
Quote
GreenbluesQuote
CousinC
Good Werchter (been there) - but from what source?
And I'd like to know from someone who really heard many of them, what are the best (soundquality +/or performance?)boots from B.Bang tour!?
I had some from Japan and US and found them mostly quite lousy! Most of them I couldn't even listen to until the end.
From Europe I heard just a few. The one -and only till now - I liked was Glasgow!
Some have been mentioned now before. But which are really the best sounding (from Europe)?? Any help?!
From the ones I've heard, I reckon Glasgow must be the best sounding one, at least juding by mainstream tastes, as it's from a radio transmission. Personally, I don't like this recording too much - it's your typical radio sound with heavy compression, too much bass and muffled somehow. Of the remaining shows, I'd say Stuttgart 2006, Werchter 2007, Isle Of Wight 2007 and London 2007 (first show) are the best sounding ones (strictly speaking of soundquality, that is). Overall I'd pick Stuttgart - which is an excellent AUD-recording and a much more powerful show than, say, Werchter (which has a very interesting setlist, but is a complete trainwreck performance-wise).
Thanx, Greenblues.
I must say normally I feel similar with Glasgow. Years ago these kind of recordings wouldn't have moved me at all.
But the first boots from BB that I'd heard were so bad (esp. from the performances) that I now name Glasgow as one of the best!
BB was to me the first tour that I really grew tired of the released boots because of the lack of quality.
But I'll have a look at shows like Stuttgart!
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
kees
()
Date: February 13, 2009 23:20
Why is only Saitama mentioned from the Japan part of the Stones tour 2006? All gigs from Japan are out here in soundboard quality
The audience releases taped in Japan are usually also excellent
In general the audience releases from the Stones are much worse than for ex. Springsteen and Dylan, which are recorded almost all by the great Crystal Cat label for years already. Not to mention the excellent releases from Mid Valley from Clapton in general.
Rattlesnake/Dandelion is the best regular Stones taper in my opinion
The audience releases taped in Japan are usually also excellent
In general the audience releases from the Stones are much worse than for ex. Springsteen and Dylan, which are recorded almost all by the great Crystal Cat label for years already. Not to mention the excellent releases from Mid Valley from Clapton in general.
Rattlesnake/Dandelion is the best regular Stones taper in my opinion
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
mexicostone
()
Date: February 13, 2009 23:59
2005 : Houston
2006: Buenos Aires
2007: none.
2006: Buenos Aires
2007: none.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
lunar!!!
()
Date: February 14, 2009 01:30
the last nite of the 2007 tour at 02 is very good IMO---good setlist and the performance is above-average....i felt the sound quality to be very acceptable also
STONES JAM!! MICKEYS RULES!!! (burp) NADER IN 2016!!!!! GO GIANTS!!
STONES JAM!! MICKEYS RULES!!! (burp) NADER IN 2016!!!!! GO GIANTS!!
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 14, 2009 02:35
Quote
kees
Why is only Saitama mentioned from the Japan part of the Stones tour 2006? All gigs from Japan are out here in soundboard quality
The audience releases taped in Japan are usually also excellent
THAT'S CUZ THEY ARE THE WORLD'S ELECTRONICS CAPITAL AND HAVE THE BEST RECORDING EQUIPMENT AND COMPANIES SUCH AS SONY
There was a japanese guy at the london O2 shows who had a pretty fancy set up (I sat near him on the final night), guess he taped all 3. He is the guy who holds the California "STONES" license plate up -- this can be seen in many videos. He also was buying quite a bit of not inexpensive items at the memorablilia convention at the hotel.
However, we agreed to trade and I gave him a disk on the spot at the show, but has never reciprocated nor even responded in spite of my attempts to reach him thru various means.
p
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
LSTNT
()
Date: February 14, 2009 04:04
Radio City 03/11/2006 - awesome show and an awesome recording.
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Sici
()
Date: February 14, 2009 10:01
I think there are too much portable phone and few audio recorder or videocamera.
For this, there are too much bad audio and video from ABB Tour.
Sici
For this, there are too much bad audio and video from ABB Tour.
Sici
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
timbernardis
()
Date: February 14, 2009 12:19
Sici
You have an e mail from me that I wish you would answer.
Thanks
The Plexi
You have an e mail from me that I wish you would answer.
Thanks
The Plexi
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
Sici
()
Date: February 14, 2009 13:44
???
i don't have mail from you
i don't have mail from you
Re: Good bootlegs of 2005, 2006 and 2007?
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: February 14, 2009 16:22
CC messed-up more than once with the Stones :
- Chicago'97 below-standard recording
- MSG 98 overloaded tape
- Stockholm'98 KR's guitar's simply missing
- London Shepherd's Bush : incomplete recording
- London Stadium :exc. tap but poor show
- Cirkus 2003 : they hit bulleseye for the 1st (and last) time!
- Chicago'97 below-standard recording
- MSG 98 overloaded tape
- Stockholm'98 KR's guitar's simply missing
- London Shepherd's Bush : incomplete recording
- London Stadium :exc. tap but poor show
- Cirkus 2003 : they hit bulleseye for the 1st (and last) time!
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