Great reading! Some info also (at least for me): surely it wasn't Bill's idea of cutting Bill out of the cover of RARITIES. It looks like the there are two entities existing nowadays: the big family of The Stones and Bill is a member of that and always will be, and then the business corporation of which the band is the outfront and of which Bill is totally seperated from. Somehow I
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I think there is some personal touch in the following lines: "You can scandalize me, scorn my name You can steal my money and that don't mean a doggone thing" Who can use a phrases like "scandalize me, scorn my name" than an egoist rock star? The whole song - with all that anger and rough attitude - sounds like a serious thread if it is directed for mrs. Jagge
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Edith Grove Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Great post, moosman! > Glad you're here. Exactly my thoughts! - Doxa
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I would say it's IT'S ONLY ROCK'N'ROLL. It is the most mediocre, uninspired and repitative of their wonderful 70's stuff. The band sounds a bit tired and forced, and the album lacks a kind of own personality (like their post-STEEL WHEELS albums) For example, GOAT'S HEAD SOAP has its own unique relaxed, sophisticated (un-exiled) atmosphere, and BLACK & BLUE sounds
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timbernardis Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm a plexiglass manuacturer in my other life. > > Actually, I have been the original and only > Library (http://lib.lbhc.cc.mt.us/) Director for > 23 years at Little Big Horn College, the fully > accredited (tribal) college of the Crow Tribe of > Indians, AKA Crow Nation, in Crow Agen
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"Start Me Up" in 1981 got me to get the album TATTOO YOU, and then the whole album really turned me on, especially "Little T&A" and "Waitin' On A Friend". Before that I was awere of some of their older big hits, and I remember especially liking "Paint It Black", but the brand new "Start Me Up" was the song that made the real impressio
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Yeah, as far the original/cover distinction is concerned, some of their 'covers' are in fact much original, inspirational and creative than some of their technically own compositions. Mentioned "I Wanna Be YOur Man" is a horrible song - a melody from a children song or something with naive lyrics (The Beatles version really shows that, plus Dylan's make fun of it), but th
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oldkr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PIB and RT are relics from the dinosaur age played > only for nostalgic value they should just play a > tape put the words on the screen and go and have > some tea. Hmm.. what's the difference to their other numbers then? - Doxa
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mickschix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Harpo darling, I think Sweet things just about > took care of your assumption that most fans don't > like Mick's ballads, especially SOL. That's way > too broad a statement to be legit and as far as > staying " true" to the REAL STONES SOUND, well, as > Sweet Things also sa
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Beelyboy, once again, nailed it! - Doxa
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Mathijs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doxa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Mathijs Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > >. One has to remember that > > > Jones was present from '63 until May '68: > > t
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Well, I think SHE'S THE BOSS is much more exciting and listenable album nowadays than DIRTY WORK, namely, there are better songs in it, and both PRIMITIVE COOL and TALK IS CHEAP are way much better than STEEL WHEELS that sounds more like a easy compromise without the real spark of the Twins. To be honest, I have always loved PRIMITIVE COOL. Never mind its horrible 80's production, it
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mofur Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> ..oh, and I cannot see any valid reason that The > Stones should honor BJ in a song? I think this is > another strange example of the way people think > about celebrities - that they somehow owe it to us > to grieve in public? And when they do - we accuse > them of cashing in on catastrophes ;-)
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Mathijs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > neptune Wrote: >> > There isn't much material from '63 to '65 that can > be played like they did 40 years ago. The Stones > aren't that raw punk-like britpop band of '65 > anymore, and they aren't that blues purist band > anymore. They can not deliver the songs a
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Mathijs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >. One has to remember that > Jones was present from '63 until May '68: that's > five years out of 43 years of Rolling Stones. > > Mathijs That is news to me. Could you please explain why it is not from '62 to May '69, that is, seven years. - Doxa
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with ssoul, I don't think the question is of "blaming" the band of being a pop band, but more like being described in the terms of its own era. The idea of rock music as a bit more 'serious' musical genre than just 'pure' pop to be made for screaming teenagers was just about to be born during those days. Of course, musically The Stones were a dirty blues ban
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Interesting that so many people find "Love Is Strong" such a remarkable song. Maybe because of being the first single of the album and the video? I really loved the song when it came out - it sounded so archaic 'real' Stones, with the harmonica and all, but I think the time has not has not been kind to it. It is not very interesing composition, the production is perhaps a bit
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vox12string Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Brian period was the 'pop' era of the Stones, > post-Brian I see as the 'rock-n-roll' era. I don't > see the Stones wanting to go back there. I agree, but I don't think that is much to do with Brian Jones, but more like Mick and Keith stopping following certain kind of
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canadian.sway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i agree OLDKR > i can't even really see any evidence of brians > influence by 1976 i would have to say. but > especially not what the stones are from 89 onwards Hmm... this seems to make a formula: less Brian = more far from their heyday and days of relevance (or is it 'The Stones since 1
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Interesting read, and very Brian-friendly. Thanks His Majesty for providing it. Nice to read something about him that is not just repeating the stories of his drug habits, women beating, etc. Brian still is a mysterious guy, and very difficult to form a sound opinion about. With all that flirting with exotic instruments (starting from slide), film scoring, world music experiments, the drive for
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As far as I know THE STONES and SYMPHONY FOR THE DEVIL are the same book just with different titles. It has been re-writed few times - but that only means that the first chapter of the book is changed to cover the latest big Stones tour - as a report of that, after which the real story - which remains untouchable - begins. We Finns are quite familiar with this book since it is used to be the
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It depends on if Keith Richards is still alive then. I guess he is - Doxa
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Veru urgent stuff. Carla Bruni - the first lady of France - doing "You Got The Silver"... - Doxa
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Here Steve is practising the Stones stuff: - Doxa P.S. If I recall right, I think Steve is doing exactly the same parts (guitar & back voc) as Keith when he recorded this song with Alexis Korner. P.S.2 More Stones connection: there has been rumours circulating that when Brian left the Stones he might have joined to Humble Pie that was founded about the same time (and having a rec
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It is sensational. I once spotted them, Taylor and Wyman's band, in Pistoia blues festival few years ago, and wished that they could do some numbers together. Which they did not. First played Taylor - a short, horrible set - and then Wyman's band with a long good set which unfortunately suffered from soundcheck problems. The night was fulfilled by the great late IKE TURNER, by the w
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Be careful with that vodka. Look what happened to Keith Richards last time: after visiting Russian he was so drunk to fell down on his butt in their next gig in Helsinki (in fact, he is not the first person to come from Russian in that condition: ask Finns, there is a whole subculture called 'vodka tourism'). But it is goddamn fine vodka. Yes it is. - Doxa
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soundcheck, that was a good line though, LOL... - Doxa
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soundcheck Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > /// who wants yesterdays papers, who wants > yesterdays girl......?? not me. I guess you find the history of The Rolling Stones not worth remembering. - Doxa
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"The Plot Thickens"... Seriously, what about sticking to to the system as it already is, that is, natural selection. But there is one thing I have wanted to suggest for a long time. That is, gathering the experiences of forum members from the concerts prior the existence of IORR, especially from the 'old days' (60's/70's). I have read some superb recollections
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His Majesty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jeezus!? You know him? > > I am saying that WE don't know whether he is in > tune or not, mic'd up etc. BUT that someone has > told us that Brian was unable to tune his guitar > at a recording session and that his mic was turned > off. Two separate occasions,
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