Weren’t Andy Johns and Jim Price sharing a place? That’s where Johns returned to for the night when Richards fell asleep but woke up and called him wondering where he went. Johns came back and they laid down the second rhythm guitar on “Rocks Off”
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QuoteGasLightStreet Mick's vocals on JJF - love it. Gives me a new angle to listen to it on GYYYO! for vocal bleed through. Hearing this with some boominess oddly reveals just how heavy they were, like SFTD, not heavy like Metallica heavy but heavy with attitude and confidence - they'd never sounded like that before - and would continue with that through 1973, albeit a bit more stre
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I like 1971 a lot too and wish one day I can somehow hear “Wild Horses” with that lineup.
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I like‘73 Pacific Tour and then the 1972 tour. Nicky Hopkins and Bobby Keys played every show! The Nicaraguan Benefit Concert may be my fav because of the set list.
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan In regards to “weaving”: Maybe on the records like “Beast Of Burden” it sounds okay, but live a lot of the times they just played over top one another and it does not sound good. Accidental counterpoint is what I call it, and a lot of the time it is hot garbage. Concerning Taylor: A lot of the songs he played on didn’t need another rhythm guitar, so he
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In regards to “weaving”: Maybe on the records like “Beast Of Burden” it sounds okay, but live a lot of the times they just played over top one another and it does not sound good. Accidental counterpoint is what I call it, and a lot of the time it is hot garbage. Concerning Taylor: A lot of the songs he played on didn’t need another rhythm guitar, so he could either play exactly what Richards d
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan They flanged the tape during the bridge and added tremolo to the vocals. I don't hear an overdub though. If you listen to the Hopkins tape you hear the drums underneath the middle 8 section. In the last bit, there's a second snare and kick pattern picking up the rythm. Mathijs I heard the drums underneath, I’ll listen for the pick-up. Maybe just
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QuoteTheflyingDutchman QuoteMathijs QuoteRobertJohnson MT is a great Rhythm guitarist - too Actually, not really. He's fairly lacklustre in his rhtyhm playing, and likes to accent the 1 on the beat, which is obstrusive with Keith's sense of timing. Mathijs Taylor likes a bit more of subtle variety when playing rhythm guitar. Often he switches very fast and smart between lead
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Quotez QuoteTravelinMan QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan It’s interesting what you can hear on the Hopkins Tapes due to the wide stereo mix. On “Rip This Joint” you can clearly hear two rhythm guitars spread out, whereas the album mix is so narrow the two parts are indistinguishable; the main part is mixed louder. It does give the song a more “old school” feel and cente
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They flanged the tape during the bridge and added tremolo to the vocals. I don't hear an overdub though.
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan It’s interesting what you can hear on the Hopkins Tapes due to the wide stereo mix. On “Rip This Joint” you can clearly hear two rhythm guitars spread out, whereas the album mix is so narrow the two parts are indistinguishable; the main part is mixed louder. It does give the song a more “old school” feel and center balanced. Taylor
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan It’s interesting what you can hear on the Hopkins Tapes due to the wide stereo mix. On “Rip This Joint” you can clearly hear two rhythm guitars spread out, whereas the album mix is so narrow the two parts are indistinguishable; the main part is mixed louder. It does give the song a more “old school” feel and center balanced. Taylor's part was removed altogethe
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Cue the Taylor Removal Company. No way a fully integrated band member could play rhythm guitar, folks!
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Quotedcba Another side of the appeal of the song is the "faded out early" MT solo at the very end of the track. If MT had a say in the miing of RO he would have let hear the solo loud and clear which would have made the song a bit longer. But Mick or Keef decided the track would be more potent with a outro solo that seems to vanish as soon as it's being heard. Genius...
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It’s interesting what you can hear on the Hopkins Tapes due to the wide stereo mix. On “Rip This Joint” you can clearly hear two rhythm guitars spread out, whereas the album mix is so narrow the two parts are indistinguishable; the main part is mixed louder. It does give the song a more “old school” feel and center balanced.
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QuoteTurningToGold2 I think the "Nicky Hopkins tape" indicates the horns were done at Nelcotte. Nicky was at Nelcotte, but he apparently wasn't in L.A. The tape that Nicky had, that surfaced a few years ago, has prominent horns on many of the instrumental tracks. “Shine A Light” is not part of the Hopkins tapes, correct?
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QuoteRobberBride QuoteTornAndFried Keys and Price are doing all the horns on Rocks Off, Ventilator Blues,Tumbling Dice, Happy, Let It Loose and All Down The Line. Their parts were overdubbed and multi-tracked (layered) at Sunset Sound in Los Angeles Clarification: We have substantial biographical documentation and photographic evidence many horn parts were arranged, rehearsed and recorded at
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QuoteOpenG TravelinMan I have that somewhere you motivated me to go through boxes, we moved to Portland Oregon to downsize and I still have not found the time to set up my music room with all my music - just have the guitars at arms length at all times.
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“Shine A Light” is an excellent song that sits perfectly on the track listing. I’ve heard two outtake versions, the one with Leon Russell where somebody plays slide (sounds like Richards or somebody other than Taylor). The other one sounds like an alternate take of the released version although it claims to be from 1970 at Olympic. The alternate version has what sounds to be the same line-up a
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Quote24FPS QuoteSilver Dagger Looking at Rene's line up of musicians I'm staggered that the two Micks are the only Rolling Stones on this track. I never knew that. Does that make it the Stones' song with the least members ever on it? I guess so. 'Play With Fire' only has Mick & Keith on it. Doesn’t “Happy” only have Richards and Jagger? Regardless, I consider all
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QuoteDeltics QuoteOpenG The quote from EC is from Melody Maker . By this time, Taylor’s reputation as a lead guitarist was spreading, presenting him with more recognition – and opportunities. In November of ’69, Clapton told Melody Maker, “I saw John Mayall in America, and we jammed… Mick Taylor is very good – frightening.” Further session work came in the form of accompanying pianist Champion
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QuoteSpud QuoteOpenG ..Always was shocked when Clapton said of MT he was very good and frightening sort of like when Clapton saw Hendrix for first time and his jaw dropped. and Hendrix felt the same about Rory I have never tracked down the origin of this supposed quote
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan You're only right in there is no point continuing the conversation because you guys have an idea and you are arguing for it rather than listening to facts. It's okay, you have an agenda, one I don't understand. You actually have NO proof who it is and I am showing you Taylor played that part live not once, but four times on recordings. So.... Saying
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QuoteOpenG I never would of thought MT is also accused of noodling on a little guitar run, one thing to suggest on solos he was noodling or being self prententious like all the guitar gods were in the early 70's . So when Keith dangles those suspended chords in our face that is always real guitar playing and never can be fooled with noodling - because the definition of noodling suggest play
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Happy was a joke, of course, but my point remains: There are some things you don't/don't wanna hear here with the single string runs. The only thing that's identical to the studio recording Taylor plays here is the I-IV riff. It would have been odd if he hadn't played it, as it's a recognisable part of the song. Taylor plays it more often than t
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You're only right in there is no point continuing the conversation because you guys have an idea and you are arguing for it rather than listening to facts. It's okay, you have an agenda, one I don't understand. You actually have NO proof who it is and I am showing you Taylor played that part live not once, but four times on recordings. So.... Saying Taylor couldn't play tha
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I don’t think the argument stands for the following reasons: DP mentions the solo to Happy. Well Taylor didn’t play on Happy as we know, but he did NOT copy Richards part, not even remotely. He didn’t copy Richards part on Torn And Frayed, nor did he copy his part on Tumbling Dice or any other Exile song. Why Loving Cup? I can’t think of an instance in his whole time in the band where he playe
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QuoteMathijs The electric guitar doing the single string runs and the I - IV lick on the Exile version is 100% Keith, not a single hair of doubt. On the 1969 version Keith is doing the country bends, Taylor does the slashing chords and tremolo picking. Live in 1972 I don’t know, I need to listen. I wasn’t even aware there is an acoustic live. Concerning Potted Shrimp: the wah guitar basically
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QuoteOpenG Talk: Loving Cup new Posted by: DandelionPowderman () Date: August 21, 2019 21:10 Quote OpenG Bare Wires is a masterpiece and I listen to it all the time. Regarding Taylor he played on 3 great records in a row with Mayall, Crusade, Bare Wires and Blues from Laurel Canyon and then played on LIB,SF,Exile,GHS,IORR and YA Ya's that's 9 great records by the time he was only
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills). Just to make sure, we are talking about Loving Cup, right? Yep, check out the s
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