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7 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Til the Next Goodbye and Time Waits for no one. Where the Boys Go and Summer Romance. Too Much Blood and Pretty Beat Up. You got me rocking (hey, hey)
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7 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Andrew Loog did quite a few of these things. - Maneuvered Ian Stewart out of the band, at least insofar as the public presentation. ... A few years later, when Brian needed to go, the Stewart case probably made it easier for them to act. - Got Mick and Keith to start writing songs. (How much of this can he take credit for? Would they have done this one their own anyway?) - Promoted the bad b
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7 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Incredible list of songs from just two or three years of recording. So prolific and they were growing as artists every week. Like the man said, this shows the 'golden era' of the band began way before Beggar's Banquet.
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7 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Great list. I might tweak it a bit and merge a couple of eras. 1. Formation blues cover band. 2. Pop artists ... Mick and Keith begin writing songs. A wonderful period. Includes the psychedelic era, which was really only a few months. 3. Americana Stones. Keith channels the Mississippi Delta. 68-72. Keith might have kept on doing that, but Mick wanted to move on. 4. Transition Stones, 73-77.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Koen: I was 16 or 17 at the time, and for sure that didn't sell any records in my high school. Jagger is a great entertainer and artist, but there was a time there when you had to apologize for the mid-70s version. Those were my formative years and I remember a lot of people in the rock audience didn't care for his persona then. Plus none of them were in good condition to put on a go
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
1. Write good songs. 2. Create a brand. 3. Stay together by constant touring. 4. Monetize when your core audience becomes wealthy. Also, let's not forget the Stones made many business mistakes along the way -- selling their classic catalog to Klein, Keith not taking care of his talent, Jagger licking Ronnie Wood's ear on a key national TV exposure, spending the '80s bickering
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
I think they need a producer because in the past 20 or 30 years the technology has gotten away from them, especially Keith. The key to some of their great songs, like SFM, was that they were able to use different ways of recording to get great songs, but I'm not sure they are able to do that anymore without an outside helper who might not be able to translate their vision (like George Marti
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
I heard Bill will join the Stones and they will perform Monkey Grip in its entirety.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
All three of these excellent pieces are reminders that when people age, they develop health issues, the evolve, they just change. You can also see that these 70s bands tried to recreate the formula of album/tour, album/tour but for the past 20 years albums are irrelevant. Especially today people get their music in different ways. None of them wanted to be just oldies bands, but that's basic
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
No leaks might mean nothing to report. Recording a bunch of blues jams is what they'd do if they didn't have any new songs to record.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
With the exception of Springsteen, the larger than life rock star is pretty much a product of boomer culture. They bands the boomers idolized in the 60s and 70s are still larger than life. Generation X was more cynical about that kind of thing and being a smaller audience anyway, their favorite musicians got crowded out by boomer tastes.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
From what I understand, Tommy and Dennis can't stand each other personally and disagree about the music. And while Tommy can rock and Dennis doesn't, Dennis has a knack for making pop records. I think Dennis didn't want to tour with his old mates, probably was sick but probably could have pushed through, and then went out on his own after they had tanked. Which is what he wanted.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Lovely song. I doubt Keith had much to do with it unless maybe he gave the riff to Jagger back in the 60s.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
All speculation, but Hendrix might have become even bigger had he gotten a good band together with a charismatic frontman (a la Zeppelin.). Or, he could have had a long, Jeff Beck-type career. The Doors had peaked, imo, probably would have been an oldies act had they stayed together. Joplin was never going to be a popular star. Allman was the greatest loss, imo. Great player, charismatic, cap
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Trump's core constituency are boomers who have grown up listening to these songs. We see these songs as works of art, to most of the public rock is just muzak -- something you hear at the grocery store or waiting at the dentist office.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Disliked. It felt like the guitarists were just noodling, not really playing the riffs, Charlie was just going through the motions, Jagger running around and shouting between breaths, the oldies were silly. I think that was the last tour when they showed up and just winged it. Jagger then 'retired' from the Stones and only agreed to come back if they tightened up and sacrificed spontan
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Re: 'Let's work.' Poor Mick. His friend David Bowie was putting out similar dreck like 'Let's Dance' and 'China Girl' and going to the top of the charts.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Dancing with Mr. D.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
fwiw, 'winning ugly' in American sports vernacular does not mean cheating to win -- it means winning in a style that's not fun to watch (usually a defensive type of team) or winning with good luck.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
OK, I went back and listened to it again. Not as horrible as I thought -- it has a catchy hook. But the '80s feel is excruciating. It makes me feel like watching Top Gun on the video, lol. Maybe if they had recorded it in a humid basement in the south of France it might have sounded better.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
I hate everything about this song, especially the lyrics (at this point in time Jagger was just stringing together clichés) and the non-existent melody. Jagger once said that he hated how it took the Stones forever to put together a song and wishes they could just take a couple of hours, put a number together and then go to the pub. But this song is what happens when he does that.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Anybody else read this? I picked it up at the local library and knocked it off. It's not that long and a good read. The main test consists of Greenfield's notes from their last tour of England before they left for the south of France, his observations from Nellcotte where he interviewed Keith for RS magazine and a few stories from Los Angeles where they completed Exile. He also mixes
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Re: Keith's laudatory comment -- do you notice that Keith is mellowing and/or changing his public image from guitar rebel to quirky grandfather. He got very good publicity in the leadup to his solo record and the kids book he did a few years ago. Is Jane Rose still around and have a hand in this? I doubt it's an act or calculated -- he seems to be letting us see that side of him more.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
As to the 'underachiever' label, I think it's silly to focus on his lyrics when he was such a brilliant musician, arranger, performer, band leader, etc. and there are other great musicians who didn't write great lyrics -- Clapton, James Brown, Hendrix. And anyway a lot of the time it's not what the lyric says, but what the singer does with them. For example, Miss You h
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
This album was a high point for Mick's vocals, imo. His phrasing was good, his voice was still strong. In the years that followed, I think he became more mannered or started barking the lyrics.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
All I know is what you ably described, but it sounds to me that Perry didn't really want to tour and the injury at the very least caused him to reconsider the whole idea. The band gave him 18 months, so that is hardly pressuring him. I believe that fronting a band on a concert tour demands a great deal of ego and maybe Perry didn't want to go back and be that person again.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Maybe they can wind it down by doing regular Saturday night gigs at the Crawdaddy club. ... Or Friday, if Saturday conflicts with watching Downton Abbey.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Like it, one of the albums I used to play quite a bit. Great sound, great grooves. Memory Motel is a guilty pleasure. An album made by a great band that just showed up with some good riffs and rhythms and put an album together. I know a lot of critics in the 70s were looking for theme albums and grand statements so this one didn't get good reviews. But it's held up.
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
Not sure why people want an album of blues covers. That would be boring, imo. And it's not like this is a band with players who have great blues chops ... which actually I would find boring, too. If I want to hear blues with a Clapton solo, I'd listen to Clapton. Now I could see them recording a mess of blues and then just giving it away to diehards, maybe. They have a better history
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8 ***years ***ago
wonderboy
QuoteStoneage Why do they give an all access pass to a gossip-writer? He was working with Jagger on the screenplays for Vinyl. So he used that access for a different purpose -- kinda underhanded, imo.
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