Anyone know if they exist, & which disk I might search for them on?
Thanks.

no

stones relics has said he had an acetate of MR featuring Brian on slide. Hmmm...

I dont have it, just heard it. No one is trading it, unfortunately.

How do you know it was Brian on slide?

I dont, it just sounds like him. No documentation of him doing it, and I have done a lot of research trying to find out. Its really just my opinion. Definately a different sound (and likely player) to than that of the finished version. Thats all I know.
JR

But if you heard it, you got it right?
Or am I seeing this wrong?

'Doo doo doo Heartbreaker'

No, I heard it...my friend brought the tape over and played it for me, and would NOT let me copy it. I do not own the track. So sorry.

JR

And he did not have his stereo wired into the basement to get a copy either.

;-)

J

But I DID think about it!!!!!!;~)

Probably shouldn't even mention the Monkey Man then.........

Isn't "The Boudoir Stomp" on JAMMING WITH EDWARD an early version of "Midnight Rambler?"

Isn't "The Boudoir Stomp" on JAMMING WITH EDWARD an early version of "Midnight Rambler?"


it's form john lee hooker WANT AD BLUES..

but i agree ,,it's the embryo of MR,,,,,but MR already recorded.spring 69.

690210A 10th February - 31st March: London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer: Jimmy Miller. Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.

- Aladdin Story I (MJ/KR) -unverified, probably instrumental
- And I Was A Country Boy (MJ/KR) -instrumental (23rd March)
- French Gig (MJ/KR)
- Gimme Shelter I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Jimmy Miller on percussion;
early ‘Give Me Some Shelter’-version
- Gimme Shelter II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Jimmy Miller on percussion;
early version with different vocals (15th March)
- Honky Tonk Women I (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Jimmy Miller on
cowbell, Reparata and The Delrons, Nanette Newman & Doris Troy on
backing vocals; version with different 2nd (Paris-)verse (9th and/or 16th
March)
- Jimmy Miller Show (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Let It Bleed I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version (under title If You Need
Someone) (9th March)
- Love In Vain II (Robert Johnson) -Ry Cooder on mandolin; Let It Bleed-version
(24th - 27th March)
- Midnight Rambler I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version (9th or 10th February)
- Midnight Rambler II (MJ/KR) -Let It Bleed-version (10th or- 11th March)
- Pennies From Heaven (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Shine A Light I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version (31st March)
- Sister Morphine II (MJ/KR/Marianne Faithfull) -Ry Cooder on guitar; embryonic
version without piano (22nd, 28th & 30th March)
- Sister Morphine III (MJ/KR/Marianne Faithfull) -Ry Cooder on guitar, Nicky
Hopkins on piano; early version (22nd, 28th & 30th March)
- Sister Morphine IV (MJ/KR/Marianne Faithfull) - Ry Cooder on guitar; Sticky
Fingers-version (31st March)
- You Can't Always Get What You Want III (MJ/KR) -Al Kooper on
piano, organ and french horn, Rocky Dijon on percussion, Jimmy
Miller on drums, Madeline Bell, Doris Troy and Nanette Workman on
backing vocals & ca. 50 members of the London Bach Choir; choral
parts arranged by Jack Nitzsche (on the 15th March); without choir intro
- You Can't Always Get What You Want IV (MJ/KR) -with choir intro by
ca. 50 members of the London Bach Choir; Let It Bleed-version
- You Can't Always Get What You Want V (MJ/KR) -shorter single-version
(without choir intro)
- You Got The Silver I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and organ; unverified
instrumental version (9th or 10th February)
- You Got The Silver II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and organ; MJ on lead
vocals-version (16th February)
- You Got The Silver III (MJ/KR) - Nicky Hopkins on piano and organ; Let It
Bleed-version (17th February)


Many outtakes from this session are available on bootlegs (Gimme Shelter, HTW, Sister Morphine, You Got The Silver, etc..). Does anybody know if that outtakes - French Gig, Jimmy Miller Show, Let It Bleed I, Midnight Rambler I, You Got The Silver I and Pennies From Heaven are available on any boots too?

No they arent....especially Monkey Man....

w00f...

JR

This acetate was offered a year or so ago on Ebay. According to the discription it suppose to have different mixes incl. a different version of Midnight Rambler. Haven't heard it, so can't confirm.

As you can see the acetate also contains Sister Morphine and Loving Cup!

If the winning bidder is out here maybe he/she can tell us some more?





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-29 03:43 by Mack Jigger.

Wrong acetate...I have this one...but aint NOBODY getting it...

JR

stone-relics Wrote:
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> Wrong acetate...I have this one...but aint NOBODY
> getting it...

I don't want your acetate, I just want to hear the damn songs!

PS. Thanks for the pix Mack.

Funny , when I read about this version I immediately contacted John by mail and then I found out that he was already replying on this forum.
Sorry to have bothered you privately, John.

Just one question. The acetate with this Killer MR version owned by your friend is a single, one-side acetate or a LIB acetate double-side recorded?

vanni

12" double sided acetate, plays different than mono above. Early Stereo mixes. Also contains Jagger vox on Silver, Richards vox on Shelter.

JR

Sounds interesting. Can you post pictures from the labels?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-29 17:18 by Mack Jigger.

I dont have it....Keith owns the actual acetate now. It is similar to the above, only stereo, and didnt have Sister Morphine, as I recall.

JR

Your friend let you listen to it, but would not let you record it?
This is not a friend.
That being established, due as the song says,
stick your knife right down his throat and take it from him.

Than of course post it here.

No, cant do that....Its his recording, and he can do what he wants with it. It was a pleasure just to hear it. Big time tape traders have to keep the rare stuff close to the vest, in order to get similar rare material.

No worries, I would love to have it, but not in the cards right now.

JR

I discussed this topic with some friends and what is curious is that an acetate of Midnight Rambler with Silver would have had a meaning in case of a projct of recording a single two sides wioth these two songs.

Therefore, I think we're discussing of a project evaluated and then parked: a single with Midnight Rambler and You got the silver which never surfaced, because, probably, of a change of commercial strategy.

Do you think thinking is realistic?

You are misreading what he says above.

He is referring to another 12" acetate of Let It Bleed which includes MR, YGTS (Jagger) and GS (KR) as well as the other songs like Loving Cup, Monkey Man etc. etc.

His point is that there are at _least_ 2 or 3 DIFFERENT ACETATES of Let It Bleed that have circulated in higher level collecting circles that he has heard and/or owned at one time.

One of them is now in Keith's possession (the highest level of collectors id say!).

J

Thanks, Jonson,,,,dont know how to translate better...MHMGTATM!!!

JR