How many tracks are floating around from this recording session?

apart from the official releases? none.

brown sugar
wild horses
you got to move..the original basic tracks,,

there was wild horses inst,(but ¨fake)

691201A 1st December: West Palm Beach, Florida, Colonnades Hotel. Unverified
Jam-session, incl.
- Lawdy Miss Clawdy (Lloyd Price)
Line-up: MJ (voc, handclaps)/KR (p)

691202A 2nd - 4th December: Florence, Alabama, Muscle Shoals Sound Studios.
Producer: Jimmy Miller. Sound engineer: Jimmy Johnson.
2nd December:
- You Gotta Move I (Fred McDowell/Rev. Gary Davis) -unverified
Note: About nineteen takes of You Gotta Move were recorded, most of them were
erased.
3rd December:
- Brown Sugar I (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, very early vocal mix, with "oh baby" at end
- Loving Cup (MJ/KR) -unrecorded, MJ (voc, p) only
Note: The Stones rehearsed Brown Sugar the whole night until they had a proper take.
4th December:
- Wild Horses I (MJ/KR) - with Jim Dickinson on tack piano, given as demo to Gram
Parsons.
- Brown Sugar II (MJ/KR) - STU on piano; new vocals, no sax, much better mix to
version I, from "Decca-acetate"
- Say It’s Not You (Dallas Frazier) -unrecorded; KR on piano only
- Your Angel Steps Out Of Heaven (Jack Ripley) -unrecorded; KR on piano only
Note: The Stones recorded all in all twelve takes of Wild Horses, most of them were
erased.
The recordings (and the stay in Alabama) were filmed by the Maysles brothers
for the upcoming Gimme Shelter-movie.

vancouver Wrote:
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> brown sugar
> wild horses
> you got to move..the original basic tracks,,
>
> there was wild horses inst,(but ¨fake)


I have an instrumental version.......I think it's just two guitars.....supposed to be Keith and Mick T........is that the one you're saying is fake?

yes that's the one,,,,,,,

where did you hear it was fake?

I always thought it was rather odd but I got it on a disc of Sticky Fingers and Let It Bleed outtakes.....



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The recent post of the UltraRare Tracks 9 cd series by Panch111 had a number of tracks attributed to Muscle Shoals:

Straight On - I speed corrected down by 10 % and sounds tons better
High Blues - I speed corrected down by 3-5% and sounds better

These two tracks sound from this era or are they B.S.? They sound like Muscle Shoals to me...

Wild Horses - 2 versions of wild horses one 3:42 another at 5:47

Brown Sugar - oh baby version 3:43 and another at 4:07

You Got to Move - Gimme Shelter tid-bit 0:44 sec.

anymore from Muscle Shoals floating around...

Tumblin_Dice_07 Wrote:
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> vancouver Wrote:
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> -----
> > brown sugar
> > wild horses
> > you got to move..the original basic tracks,,
> >
> > there was wild horses inst,(but ¨fake)
>
>
> I have an instrumental version.......I think it's
> just two guitars.....supposed to be Keith and Mick
> T........is that the one you're saying is fake?

Just listen, and you'll have to come to the conclusion that there's no way that recording features our uberguitarists. Even if they were Stoned out of their heads they still wouldn't produce such crappy playing. Fake with a capital F.

Britney Wrote:
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>
> Just listen, and you'll have to come to the
> conclusion that there's no way that recording
> features our uberguitarists. Even if they were
> Stoned out of their heads they still wouldn't
> produce such crappy playing. Fake with a capital
> F.



I don't neccessarily think that argument would hold up. I'm not arguing that this recording is actually legit, I'm just saying that even good guitarists can play bad sometimes.......It sounded to me as if they (or whoever) was just jamming around over the chord changes and not really taking it seriously.....it may be fake but to say that Keith and Mick T. weren't capable of playing that badly.......have you ever heard the '72 Dallas Rehearsals?

Fake, check all info about the song it if you can't hear it yourself.....

Nice stuff from MS Studios..

JR



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Idiot Wind Wrote:
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> Fake, check all info about the song it if you
> can't hear it yourself.....

alright!!!........I'm not trying to argue that it's not fake...I clearly stated that in my last post....I haven't listened to it in years......I'm just saying that the argument that the Stones guitarists couldn't possibly play that badly does not hold up.....



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Of course even our hero's are known to play the occasional bumnote. There's probably enough recorded evidence to prove that point. But these particular track lack everything that makes their playing recognizable: The sound, rhythm, the technique and signature licks. These ain't no Stones tracks unless they were playing with their hands tied to their feet.

Could somebody please post this fake version, I'd love to hear it.

You'll probably find them in the Ultra Rare Trax upload.

ain't got it ,,,,,,can't help you eric

Oh, it's in there, thanks,
well I trust your comments on this take/fake then.

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> ain't got it ,,,,,,can't help you eric


Thanks Vancouver, I'll manage without it.
Cheers!

I remember it being very strange......and maybe I vaguely remember reading once that it was fake........I can't really remember...but it must be...I'll have to go listen to it now....

it appears the two guitars wild horses, straight on, & high blues are from the same recording session, some seconds of studio chatter at the end of each track that I can not make out

recordings...stones do a lot of dooding around as warm up..on many outtakes..

JoeHill Wrote:
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> it appears the two guitars wild horses, straight
> on, & high blues are from the same recording
> session, some seconds of studio chatter at the end
> of each track that I can not make out
>
> recordings...stones do a lot of dooding around as
> warm up..on many outtakes..


again and again and again...;-)

a Swiss stones-collector together with a friend - a Fake with a capital F as Britney wrote !

Straight on is also fake, they used to put that stuff on the disc and hardcore collectors would get a stiff one from reading the tracklist on the cd. Those days there was no internet, you bought he stuff without a listen. When you came home and played the track you knew it was a fake and you bought the thing for nothing (all the other songs on the cds were allready out there). No way to find stuff out like that beforehand when there was no info on it (internet ect.). Basement news came and everything was ok!