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furui_suterioo wrote:
THE ROLLING STONES KBFH QUAD REEL 3CD I JUST WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO YOU Z01 eBay it says discrete reel but it also mentions Involve Surround Master SQ
J. PUPSTER replied
"So looks like the other two CDs are the front channels on one and the rears on another; hopefully they're synchronized in time.
And the first CD is then the SM SQ decode? But it wouldn't be discrete in the first place, if just taken off the broadcast would it (guess it does say "pre FM"?)"
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The Rolling Stones - KBFH Quad Reel
The Rolling Stones - Kbfh Quad Reel
Label: Not On Label (Rolling Stones) - none
Format:
3 x CDr, CD-ROM, Limited Edition, Unofficial Release
Country: Japan
Released: 2020
Genre: Rock
Style: Blues Rock
Quad mix (67:22)
1-1 KBFH Intro.
1-2 Intro.
1-3 Brown Sugar.
1-4 Gimme Shelter.
1-5 Happy
Front 2channel (67:22)
2-1 KBFH Intro.
2-2 Intro.
2-3 Brown Sugar
2-4 Gimme Shelter
2-5 Happy
Rear 2channel (67:22)
3-1 KBFH Intro.
3-2 Intro.
3-3 Brown Sugar
3-4 Gimme Shelter
3-5 Happy
KBFH King Biscuit Flower Hour, Discrete 4-Channel Quad Reel pre-FM & Broadcast Date: 29th September 1974
Wembley Empire Pool, London, UK 9th September 1973
Forest National, Brussels, Belgium 17th October 1973 (1st show)
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gonzalo76 Oct 6, 2021
The track list is incomplete:
1. KBFH Intro.
2. Intro.
3. Brown Sugar
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Happy
6. Tumbling Dice
7. Dancing with Mr.D
8. Angie
9. You Can't Always Get What You Want
10. Midnight Rambler
11. Honky Tonk Women
12. All Down the Line
13. Rip This Joint
14. Jumping Jack Flash
15. Street Fighting Man
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Rolling Stones / KBFH Quad Reel / 3CDR / Non Label
KBFH King Biscuit Flower Hour, Discrete 4-Channel Quad Reel pre-FM & Broadcast Date: 29th September 1974
Wembley Empire Pool, London, UK 9th September 1973
Forest National, Brussels, Belgium 17th October 1973 (1st show)
The sound quality is improved because an Involve Audio Surround Master SQ decoder was used.
All shows distributed on reel are 2 - 7? reels unless noted.
This is a surprise, that there was a 4 channel stereo version of the King Biscuit Flower Hour sound source (hereinafter referred to as KBFH) of the 1973 European tour! 1973 was a time when record companies and audio makers were working together to boost 4 channels. It would be no wonder if there was a 4-channel broadcast version of Europe 73 in this era.
In fact, KBFH also performed live broadcasting of 4 Chan specifications in 1973, the most famous is The Who 1973 Philadelphia performance. Even the LP "TALES FROM THE WHO" borrowed from the broadcast was famous for enthusiasts who could play on 4 channels. In such an era, it was natural that a 1973 European 4-channel mixed version broadcast was made.
When Stones Europe '73 was broadcasted in the late 1974, it was a period of the decline of 4-channel audio, which was not widespread. There may have been few enthusiasts who recorded the broadcast at that time.
This broadcasted content is clearly unique. From the opening, it is well announced that this is an SQ 4-channel stereo broadcast. In the SQ system, the so-called 4-channel separation is not so much, but there is a strength that you can understand the difference of the mix even if you play in normal 2-channel stereo. For example, many albums such as Sony to Jeff Beck A 4-channel version was released.
Even if you listen to the CD as usual, you can understand the difference between the 4-channel broadcast mix. On the whole, Keith and Mick Taylor's guitars are less often separated into left and right, and in particular, Keith's guitar is often placed in the middle.
"Tumbling Dice is the easiest way to understand the difference in the mix. Taylor's lead is placed on the left. The part of the song that swells when the song approaches in the second half, is where you can hear the piano sound played by Ian Stuart, which you can hardly hear on regular broadcasts. Another feature is that the drums do not spread from side to side as much as normal broadcasts in most songs.
The regular broadcast was taken from the Wembley Arena. Here the '73 songs from Brussels that didn't see the light of day until the 1988 version of the two songs "Gimme Shelter" and "Happy." It is presumed that this was a treatment for completely distinguishing from ordinary broadcasting. Of course, their mix is also different from the 1988 version.
Although "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)" has not been recorded yet, and edits after "You Can't Always Get What You Want" are exactly the same as the regular broadcast version, this is the 74 version. It proves that it is a different version. A shocking gift that includes a four-channel version!
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Created from 4-channel reel. Front 2CH is closer to the bass and Rear 2CH is closer to the higher. (If these two are combined into 2CH, the sound will be QUAD MIX.)
FRONT MIX and REAR MIX differ not only in sound quality but also in the stereo balance of each instrument & vocal.
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) is not included. 1. KBFH Introduction Was recorded only on Rear 2channel, so this song only sounds exactly the same on all three discs.
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