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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: bleedingman ()
Date: March 5, 2021 01:36

This is fantastic! Thanks very much for sharing! Much appreciated.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: March 5, 2021 02:33

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Tonstone
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bkeys
for those that can't wait on lossless files.
[we.tl]
So why do you post this now ?

Sometimes i really, really don’t understand people.
Such an ungrateful sod.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: JordyLicks96 ()
Date: March 5, 2021 03:39

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His Majesty
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JordyLicks96
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His Majesty
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JordyLicks96
Here are my guesses for the dates of each recording:


She’s Doing Her Thing (Satanic Sessions; “Dream Pipe” w/vocals 1967)

The vocal, organ and additional guitar are most definitely not from the 60's, but from late 70's or 80's.

Everything here is from Satanic. This has 60's written all over it.


The basic track is, but the overdubs of vocals, organ and 6 string guitar with echo/delay are most definitely not.

The Exile deluxe release shows they obviously had a tape of this and this bootleg shows they evidently re-visited it much later and added vocals, organ and guitar.

Nico has had the song listed in 1967 for a long time now with this title. I'm honestly just not hearing anything that was overdubbed in the 70's or 80's. At no point during that time period would they revisit a song from Satanic considering they'd than have to share song royalties with ABKCO for a track written while they were under contract with them. Keith's vocals are clearly from '67 and Mick's are as well. No way does Mick sound like that in 2009 for the Exile reissue.

2nd - 5th October: Olympic Sound Studios and De Lane Lea Studios. Producers:
The Rolling Stones. Sound engineer: Glyn Johns. Second engineer: Eddie Kramer.
- Blow Me Mama (MJ/KR) -3rd October, unverified
- Citadel II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on harpsichord; Satanic Majesties-version
- The Lantern II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; Satanic Majesties-version
- Manhole Cover (MJ/KR) -3rd October; unverified
- She’s Doing Her Thing (MJ/KR) -3rd October; unverified
Additional musician: Nicky Hopkins.
Note: The recordings were done at Olympic. De Lane Lea was used for
mixing purposes.

Here's an instrumental of the song under the title "Title 15." The basic track was done in July 1967 while the organ/vocals were overdubbed in October 1967 along with the other songs from Satanic.

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: Lil' Brian ()
Date: March 5, 2021 03:45

Thank you.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: sanQ ()
Date: March 5, 2021 05:42

Thank you!

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: March 5, 2021 07:52

Woooooo Hoooooo.... lots of lovely stuff here. Nothing at first listen that is downright GREAT, but much that is fantastic that most artists would give their leftie to have in the can. Thanks so much to the OP

Rod

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: edwinholland ()
Date: March 5, 2021 10:09

DESPERATE MAN, cool song.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: tioms ()
Date: March 5, 2021 10:16

My silver 3 cd is today not yet at home.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 5, 2021 11:59

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JordyLicks96

I'm honestly just not hearing anything that was overdubbed in the 70's or 80's.

Nevermind. thumbs up



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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: stargroover ()
Date: March 5, 2021 12:42

Great,a big thank you.A random act ok kindness,gold rings on you bro

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: March 5, 2021 14:28

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mike567
Thanks!
I love that feeling of listening to stones stuff for the first time.

1000000% agree. HOW good is it!!!

Rod

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 5, 2021 15:21

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bkeys
for those that can't wait on lossless files.
[we.tl]

Thank you so very much!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lossless files (presumably from the CD's) are actually from lossy sources (if you look at the file in an audio editor most of the files features an abrupt cut around 15kHz). Which may means that when buy the CD's on ebay you actually buy mp3 files converted to wav and put on CD. (I'm not saying it's not an exceptional compilation of songs of course)

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: March 5, 2021 16:18

Darn Kowalski, I was hoping this wasn't the case though I figured it had to be. No way they're giving this stuff at regular quality. I suppose you already know a lot of them are 128kbs. Oh well.



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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 5, 2021 17:25

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kowalski
The lossless files (presumably from the CD's) are actually from lossy sources

Maybe "someone" sat on those for a long time but the recent release of the "Art Collins" files on DAC made them think it's now OK to sell CDs pressed from lossy material?

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: March 5, 2021 17:33

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frankotero
Darn Kowalski, I was hoping this wasn't the case though I figured it had to be. No way they're giving this stuff at regular quality. I suppose you already know a lot of them are 128kbs. Oh well.

What a bummer - but then, Bootlegs were never meant for audiophile enthusiasts, and these tracks definitely sound a lot better than the vast majority of unauthorized "lossless" files out there...

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 5, 2021 17:56

People, we're talking bootlegs, NOT classical music recordings, besides 90% (if not more) couldn't tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and a lossless FLAC and even fewer between a FLAC and a so-called HQ file sold on Qobuzz in 24/192 or whatever.

On the other hand it's interesting to hear stuff that got released recently, like Scarlet or "Criss Cross" WITHOUT the ridiculous brickwalling that we're getting these days.

I can't hear anything that sounds like a 128kbps MP3 anyway, not that 75% (or more) would ever notice in any case ;-)

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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 5, 2021 18:57

Actually most of these tracks are more likely 128~160kbps mp3's.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 5, 2021 19:00

"actually" ?

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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gavin95 ()
Date: March 5, 2021 19:05

well it's not stopping me from enjoying the hell out of these tracks!

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: March 5, 2021 19:53

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kowalski
Actually most of these tracks are more likely 128~160kbps mp3's.

So since I couldn't wait and burned the mp3 files upped by bkeys (thanks) there is no need to toss those disks and burn from the flac files? The flac files are the same quality as the mp3s? Thanks Kowalski.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: no satisfaction ()
Date: March 5, 2021 20:22

It's too good the Stones 'new triple album!!! hot smileysmileys with beer

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gustavobala ()
Date: March 6, 2021 00:39

43. covererd in bruises - is 1,2,3,4 from album 1,2,3,4 ronnie solo in 1981, WITH MICK ON VOCALS!!!!!

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gustavobala ()
Date: March 6, 2021 00:42

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JordyLicks96
Here are my guesses for the dates of each recording:

VOLUME 1

Nobody’s Perfect (MJ Solo Session 1984/87)
Trouble’s A Coming (Emotional Rescue Sessions 1979)
Dreams To Remember (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Don’t Lie To Me (Unknown Recording Date; Possibly from the late 70's)
Fiji Jim (Some Girls Sessions 1977-78)
Eliza Upchink (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Deep Love (Dirty Work Sessions; MJ vocals 1985)
She’s Doing Her Thing (Satanic Sessions; “Dream Pipe” w/vocals 1967)
Putty In Your Hands (Dirty Work Sessions 1985)
Dog Shit (Undercover Sessions; MJ vocal 1983)
20 Nil (Unknown Recording Date; Possibly from the 90's)
Tell Her How It Is (“Potted Shrimps” w/new MJ vocals for Exile Reissue 2009)
(You Better) Stop That (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Scarlet (No overdubs 1974)
Walk With Me Wendy (Unknown Recording Date; Possibly from the mid-70's)
Never Make You Cry (Some Girls Sessions 1977-78)
Part Of The Night (Undercover Sessions; “Golden Caddy” w/vocals 1982)
Low Down (Bridges To Babylon Sessions; KR vocals 1997)

VOLUME 2

It’s A Lie (Emotional Rescue Sessions 1979)
I Can’t See No One Else (Dirty Work Sessions 1985)
Not The Way To Go (Emotional Rescue Sessions 1978)
Giving It Up (Steel Wheels Sessions 1989)
Hands Off (Voodoo Lounge Demos 1993)
Built That Way (Black and Blue Sessions 1975)
Keep It Cool (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Can’t Find Love (Undercover Sessions 1982)
You Win Again (Some Girls Sessions 1977-78)
Blood Red Wine (Beggars Banquet Sessions 1968)
Fast Talking Slow Walking (It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll Sessions 1974)
Cooking Up (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Every Time I Break Her Heart (Some Girls Sessions 1977; Early version of "Far Away Eyes")
Dream About (MJ Solo Session; Possibly mid 2000's)
Flip The Switch (Bridges To Babylon Sessions; KR vocals 1997)

VOLUME 3

Sanctuary (Unknown Recording Date; Possibly from the 90's)
Desperate Man (Voodoo Lounge Sessions 1993)
Prairie Love (Unknown Recording Date; Possibly from the 90's/00's)
Living In The Heart Of Love (It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll Sessions 1974)
Still In Love (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Tried To Talk Her Into It (Undercover Sessions 1982)
Might As Well Get Juiced (Bridges To Babylon Sessions 1997)
Too Many Cooks (All Star Band Session w/MJ 1973)
Curtis Meets Smokey (Let It Bleed Sessions/Jamming With Edward Outtake 1969)
Covered In Bruises (RW Solo Session, RW & MJ vocals 1978; Early version of RW solo song "1234")
Ivy League (Voodoo Lounge Sessions 1993)
Too Tight (Bridges To Babylon Sessions; KR vocals 1997)
Criss Cross (Goats Head Soup Sessions 1972-73)
Strictly Memphis (Dirty Work Sessions 1985)
It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll (But I Like It) (Original Demo Version 1973)
Extreme Western Grip (Licks Sessions 2002)
Well, Well (Licks Sessions 2002)

OK jordy had already said that

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 6, 2021 05:21

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gotdablouse
"actually" ?

Actually like in for real.

Again, not saying they're not worth listening. Just pointing the lossy source.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 6, 2021 05:33

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kowalski
Actually most of these tracks are more likely 128~160kbps mp3's.

So since I couldn't wait and burned the mp3 files upped by bkeys (thanks) there is no need to toss those disks and burn from the flac files? The flac files are the same quality as the mp3s? Thanks Kowalski.

To me they sound quite similar (both have this hollow sound caracteristic of low bitrate mp3). The FLAC files posted here may be a little better than the converted mp3 files (mp3 conversion always involve some degredation).

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: March 6, 2021 14:43

thank you anyway i put the files in cronological order

don't lie to me is from 86 ? not 72 ?

sad that tell her how(potted shrimp) it is was not on sticky fingers deluxe

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: March 6, 2021 14:58

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vancouver
thank you anyway i put the files in cronological order

Could you please post the chronological list? Thank you.

Re: can't wait?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 6, 2021 17:24

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kowalski
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gotdablouse
"actually" ?

Actually like in for real.

Again, not saying they're not worth listening. Just pointing the lossy source.

Again, if you have any specific/typical "128kbps MP3 artifacts" too point out, feel free. In the meantime it's not "actually", it's "allegedly".

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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: March 7, 2021 05:57

The properties of the files I have downloaded from that source say 162kbps, so in my case anyhow, its "actually" indeed. Haven't checked them all, but the ones I have have been.

Not complaining, mind you. But if these were initially ripped from the cd from wav format, and were not ripped at least at 320, which compared to flac is still lossy, they could be at better resolution than they are, no matter what is actually on the cd. Just sayin.

Thank you again whoever did these, and anyone with insight into holes in my logic, please, come forward.


jb



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Re: can't wait?
Posted by: zeppo1 ()
Date: March 7, 2021 06:20

thanks!

so great and so unexpected---insane!

smileys with beer

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