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Correct. Ya-Ya´s is the 27-11 instrumental track with vocal overdubs. No other alterations.
Both correct. Satisfaction is 28-11 1st until the guitar solo, then it changes to 28-11 2nd, right after that nasty wave of feedback.
The complete 28-11 1st Satisfaction is on the Ya-Ya´s bonus CD. An absolutely scorching version.
In terms of an honest presentation of the musical performances that occured during the 1969 tour, that movie is a complete mess and total failure with interrupted and cut songs, countless and extremely poor edits of footage where the band is clearly playing a completely different tune than what is being heard and performances from different concerts spliced together, all for dramatic effect I suppose.
The only unaltered musical performance is JJF at the beginning but even this is splattered with intercut footage from different concerts/performances.
The Maysles footage itself is stellar and fascinating to watch though, it just needs to be edited correctly to present a true documentation of what happened during these shows. The Ya-Ya´s bonus DVD has proven it can be done with uninterrupted footage from the actual performances and audio without edits. Thankfully, it also appears that the original film reels still exist. I am sure they could present at least one full MSG setlist with tunes from different nights from the material in they have in the archive.
I made a rip of the DVD audio for myself back when it was released. This can be easily done with a standard ripping tool like DVD Audio Extractor.
That DVD has arguably the best Version of Under My Thumb played during the 1969 tour, taken from 28-11 1st, certainly my most favorite version ever. They play it at a very slow tempo, exactly like at Altamont, Keith´s take on his guitar solo is very gentle and beatiful, the band does not rush the song as they sometimes did and it´s the last time when they played it as a medley with I´m Free at the and. Sadly, the end is cut / edited on the DVD.
Very unfortunately, the ABKCO Dump did not include the rest of the 28-11 "breakfast Show". We are still missing Love In Vain, Prodigal Son, You Gotta Move, Midnight Rambler and Live With Me.
Thanks for your help, Michael!
The Gimme Shelter movie drove me nuts trying to figure out where each song was from not realizing all of the edits/splices.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 03:22 by exilestones.
AWESOME! Thanks.
I wish I had the video on my HDD.
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SHOT OF SALVATION
So what about the Shot of Salvation boot?
Love In Vain is the same as YaYas (Baltimore) but different?
Where is Street Fighting Man from (Shot of Salvation)?
I've been playing this Under My Thumb and the new Ruby Tuesday all night! The Under My Thumb is great!
As evidneced by the new tapes -HTW from Ya Ya's is also from two shows: it starts with the second show of the 28th, and changes to the 27th show just before the solo section.
Mathijs
Thank you so much, wiredallnight !!!
+1! Thanks!
Thanks. A great listen.
Thanks! It's hard to sort it all out.
Thanks for your insights!
The Gimme Shelter/YaYas mysteries unravel.
Sticky Fingers magazine's review of Shot of Salvation says Street Fighting Man from this disc is the same as the
Street Fighting Man released on Get Yer Ya Yas Out. I know it's the same one as in the Gimme Shelter movie when
all of the equipment was being moved to Altamont. Sticky Fingers mag says it's the 28th, first show. Anyone
know if the above info is correct? Is SFM from Shot of Salvation the same as YaYas?
++++++++
POST: SHOT OF SALVATION
[wetransfer.com]
RS 1969-74 A Shot of Salvation - Scorpio Old Masters 90-64-17.rar
++++++++
Notes that came with the Shot of Salvation download from the Stones Vault says that Street Fighting Man is the 27th.
Shot of Salvation notes from the CD:
ROLLING STONES - A SHOT OF SALVATION - SCORPIO OM 90-64-17
01 Brown Sugar - Muscle Shoals 1969
02 Too Many Cooks- LA Record Plant 1974
03 Love In Vain - NYC, NY 11/27/69 *
04 Gimme Shelter - Livermore, CA 12/6/69 **
05 Street Fighting Man - NYC, NY 11/27/69 *
06 Brown Sugar - Slide Guitar 1970
07 Sway - Alt Mix 1971
08 @#$%& - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
09 Dancing With Mr. D - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
10 Angie - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
11 Gimme Shelter - Ed Sullivan 12/69
12 Love In Vain (5:10) - Ed Sullivan 12/69
13 Honky Tonk Women - Ed Sullivan 12/69
14 Brown Sugar - Newcastle, UK 9/13/73 ***
15 All Down The Line - 1971
16 Dead Flowers - Dallas, TX 6/25/72 #
17 Prodigal Son - Oakland, CA 11/9/69 ##
18 You Gotta Move ##
NOTES: This was the first outtakes CD to break new ground compared to the vinyl era. It
has outstanding to excellent sound and includes material never before available.
Rumor has it that this and other "Scorpio" and related CDs are made from tapes sold at Sotheby's
auction house, which would explain why the material was "new" to collectors.
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What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 4, 2020 18:25
My friend Dan asks:
OK Everyone is going to try and gather information on the ABKCO copyright release and see what is new. For instance Ya Ya’s JJ Flash IS Nov 27, BUT Jagger re-did his vocals…SOOOOO we technically do have “two Different versions” of the performance from 11/27.
I believe that Honkey Tonk Women from “Gimme Shelter” is a edited from two sources 11/28 2nd show into 11/27…..Satisfaction from “Gimme Shelter” is rumored to be a splice 11/28 1st show into 11/28 2nd show. The Glyn Johns or Apple acetate has different “mixes” of songs.
ONE BIG QUESTION. RS 1970 OFFICIAL – Get Yer Ya – Ya’s Out! 3 – CD 2009 has the bonus Disc 2 of the 40th Anniversary re-issue, BUT DO WE HAVE A EXCELLENT! DVD rip to audio on the HDD of the Video/DVD songs? They are DIFFERENT Performances from the CD….
Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, and I’m Free video soundtrack audio can be added to the 11/28 early show material. (and maybe Street Fighting Man from Shot Of Salvation boot CD) That’ll fatten up the slim 3 song selection we received.
Thanks for your help (as always)!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 00:45 by exilestones.
OK Everyone is going to try and gather information on the ABKCO copyright release and see what is new. For instance Ya Ya’s JJ Flash IS Nov 27, BUT Jagger re-did his vocals…SOOOOO we technically do have “two Different versions” of the performance from 11/27.
I believe that Honkey Tonk Women from “Gimme Shelter” is a edited from two sources 11/28 2nd show into 11/27…..Satisfaction from “Gimme Shelter” is rumored to be a splice 11/28 1st show into 11/28 2nd show. The Glyn Johns or Apple acetate has different “mixes” of songs.
ONE BIG QUESTION. RS 1970 OFFICIAL – Get Yer Ya – Ya’s Out! 3 – CD 2009 has the bonus Disc 2 of the 40th Anniversary re-issue, BUT DO WE HAVE A EXCELLENT! DVD rip to audio on the HDD of the Video/DVD songs? They are DIFFERENT Performances from the CD….
Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, and I’m Free video soundtrack audio can be added to the 11/28 early show material. (and maybe Street Fighting Man from Shot Of Salvation boot CD) That’ll fatten up the slim 3 song selection we received.
Thanks for your help (as always)!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 00:45 by exilestones.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
Tornandfrayed
()
Date: January 4, 2020 21:38
Quote
exilestones
OK Everyone is going to try and gather information on the ABKCO copyright release and see what is new. For instance Ya Ya’s JJ Flash IS Nov 27, BUT Jagger re-did his vocals…SOOOOO we technically do have “two Different versions” of the performance from 11/27.
Correct. Ya-Ya´s is the 27-11 instrumental track with vocal overdubs. No other alterations.
Quote
exilestones
I believe that Honkey Tonk Women from “Gimme Shelter” is a edited from two sources 11/28 2nd show into 11/27…..Satisfaction from “Gimme Shelter” is rumored to be a splice 11/28 1st show into 11/28 2nd show.
Both correct. Satisfaction is 28-11 1st until the guitar solo, then it changes to 28-11 2nd, right after that nasty wave of feedback.
The complete 28-11 1st Satisfaction is on the Ya-Ya´s bonus CD. An absolutely scorching version.
In terms of an honest presentation of the musical performances that occured during the 1969 tour, that movie is a complete mess and total failure with interrupted and cut songs, countless and extremely poor edits of footage where the band is clearly playing a completely different tune than what is being heard and performances from different concerts spliced together, all for dramatic effect I suppose.
The only unaltered musical performance is JJF at the beginning but even this is splattered with intercut footage from different concerts/performances.
The Maysles footage itself is stellar and fascinating to watch though, it just needs to be edited correctly to present a true documentation of what happened during these shows. The Ya-Ya´s bonus DVD has proven it can be done with uninterrupted footage from the actual performances and audio without edits. Thankfully, it also appears that the original film reels still exist. I am sure they could present at least one full MSG setlist with tunes from different nights from the material in they have in the archive.
Quote
exilestones
ONE BIG QUESTION. RS 1970 OFFICIAL – Get Yer Ya – Ya’s Out! 3 – CD 2009 has the bonus Disc 2 of the 40th Anniversary re-issue, BUT DO WE HAVE A EXCELLENT! DVD rip to audio on the HDD of the Video/DVD songs? They are DIFFERENT Performances from the CD….
I made a rip of the DVD audio for myself back when it was released. This can be easily done with a standard ripping tool like DVD Audio Extractor.
That DVD has arguably the best Version of Under My Thumb played during the 1969 tour, taken from 28-11 1st, certainly my most favorite version ever. They play it at a very slow tempo, exactly like at Altamont, Keith´s take on his guitar solo is very gentle and beatiful, the band does not rush the song as they sometimes did and it´s the last time when they played it as a medley with I´m Free at the and. Sadly, the end is cut / edited on the DVD.
Very unfortunately, the ABKCO Dump did not include the rest of the 28-11 "breakfast Show". We are still missing Love In Vain, Prodigal Son, You Gotta Move, Midnight Rambler and Live With Me.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
wiredallnight
()
Date: January 4, 2020 22:48
Tracks from the DVD: [we.tl] (The voiceover in I'm Free is edited out.)
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 01:07
Quote
TornandfrayedQuote
exilestones
OK Everyone is going to try and gather information on the ABKCO copyright release and see what is new. For instance Ya Ya’s JJ Flash IS Nov 27, BUT Jagger re-did his vocals…SOOOOO we technically do have “two Different versions” of the performance from 11/27.
Correct. Ya-Ya´s is the 27-11 instrumental track with vocal overdubs. No other alterations.Quote
exilestones
I believe that Honkey Tonk Women from “Gimme Shelter” is a edited from two sources 11/28 2nd show into 11/27…..Satisfaction from “Gimme Shelter” is rumored to be a splice 11/28 1st show into 11/28 2nd show.
Both correct. Satisfaction is 28-11 1st until the guitar solo, then it changes to 28-11 2nd, right after that nasty wave of feedback.
The complete 28-11 1st Satisfaction is on the Ya-Ya´s bonus CD. An absolutely scorching version.
In terms of an honest presentation of the musical performances that occured during the 1969 tour, that movie is a complete mess and total failure with interrupted and cut songs, countless and extremely poor edits of footage where the band is clearly playing a completely different tune than what is being heard and performances from different concerts spliced together, all for dramatic effect I suppose.
The only unaltered musical performance is JJF at the beginning but even this is splattered with intercut footage from different concerts/performances.
The Maysles footage itself is stellar and fascinating to watch though, it just needs to be edited correctly to present a true documentation of what happened during these shows. The Ya-Ya´s bonus DVD has proven it can be done with uninterrupted footage from the actual performances and audio without edits. Thankfully, it also appears that the original film reels still exist. I am sure they could present at least one full MSG setlist with tunes from different nights from the material in they have in the archive.Quote
exilestones
ONE BIG QUESTION. RS 1970 OFFICIAL – Get Yer Ya – Ya’s Out! 3 – CD 2009 has the bonus Disc 2 of the 40th Anniversary re-issue, BUT DO WE HAVE A EXCELLENT! DVD rip to audio on the HDD of the Video/DVD songs? They are DIFFERENT Performances from the CD….
I made a rip of the DVD audio for myself back when it was released. This can be easily done with a standard ripping tool like DVD Audio Extractor.
That DVD has arguably the best Version of Under My Thumb played during the 1969 tour, taken from 28-11 1st, certainly my most favorite version ever. They play it at a very slow tempo, exactly like at Altamont, Keith´s take on his guitar solo is very gentle and beatiful, the band does not rush the song as they sometimes did and it´s the last time when they played it as a medley with I´m Free at the and. Sadly, the end is cut / edited on the DVD.
Very unfortunately, the ABKCO Dump did not include the rest of the 28-11 "breakfast Show". We are still missing Love In Vain, Prodigal Son, You Gotta Move, Midnight Rambler and Live With Me.
Thanks for your help, Michael!
The Gimme Shelter movie drove me nuts trying to figure out where each song was from not realizing all of the edits/splices.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 03:22 by exilestones.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 01:08
AWESOME! Thanks.
I wish I had the video on my HDD.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 01:17
SHOT OF SALVATION
So what about the Shot of Salvation boot?
Love In Vain is the same as YaYas (Baltimore) but different?
Where is Street Fighting Man from (Shot of Salvation)?
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 01:19
Dan wrote:
See below- Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, and I’m Free video soundtrack audio can be added to the 11/28 early show material.
(and maybe Street Fighting Man from Shot of Salvation boot CD) That’ll fatten up the slim 3 song selection we received.
GET YER YA YA’s OUT Original release
Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Jumpin' Jack Flash" (27 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City)
4:02
2. "Carol" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Chuck Berry†
3:47
3. "Stray Cat Blues" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 3:41
4. "Love in Vain" (26 November 1969: Civic Center, Baltimore) Robert Johnson†
4:57
5. "Midnight Rambler" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 9:05
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Sympathy for the Devil" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 6:52
2. "Live with Me" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 3:03
3. "Little Queenie" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) Chuck Berry†
4:33
4. "Honky Tonk Women" (27 November 1969: MSG)
3:35
5. "Street Fighting Man" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 4:03
2009 DELUXE BOX Bonus track recording dates
Audio
1. "Prodigal Son" – 4:04 (28 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City (second show)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 2:18 (28 November 1969: MSG – second show)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:38 (27 November 1969: MSG)
4. "I'm Free" – 2:47 (27 November 1969: MSG)
5. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" – 5:38 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Video
1. "Prodigal Son" – 2:40 (27 November 1969: MSG)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 1:50 (27 November 1969: MSG)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
4. "I'm Free" – 1:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Sorry, I don't know who to credit for the above info.
See below- Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, and I’m Free video soundtrack audio can be added to the 11/28 early show material.
(and maybe Street Fighting Man from Shot of Salvation boot CD) That’ll fatten up the slim 3 song selection we received.
GET YER YA YA’s OUT Original release
Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Jumpin' Jack Flash" (27 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City)
4:02
2. "Carol" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Chuck Berry†
3:47
3. "Stray Cat Blues" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 3:41
4. "Love in Vain" (26 November 1969: Civic Center, Baltimore) Robert Johnson†
4:57
5. "Midnight Rambler" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 9:05
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Sympathy for the Devil" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 6:52
2. "Live with Me" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 3:03
3. "Little Queenie" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) Chuck Berry†
4:33
4. "Honky Tonk Women" (27 November 1969: MSG)
3:35
5. "Street Fighting Man" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 4:03
2009 DELUXE BOX Bonus track recording dates
Audio
1. "Prodigal Son" – 4:04 (28 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City (second show)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 2:18 (28 November 1969: MSG – second show)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:38 (27 November 1969: MSG)
4. "I'm Free" – 2:47 (27 November 1969: MSG)
5. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" – 5:38 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Video
1. "Prodigal Son" – 2:40 (27 November 1969: MSG)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 1:50 (27 November 1969: MSG)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
4. "I'm Free" – 1:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Sorry, I don't know who to credit for the above info.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 01:23
The original question "What's New with MSG 1969?"
Since we now have three+ MSG soundboards now, what soundboard tracks didn't we have before?
Here's a project, an album of songs not on YaYas taken from the recent downloads.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 03:22 by exilestones.
Since we now have three+ MSG soundboards now, what soundboard tracks didn't we have before?
Here's a project, an album of songs not on YaYas taken from the recent downloads.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 03:22 by exilestones.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 5, 2020 05:45
Quote
Tornandfrayed
That DVD has arguably the best Version of Under My Thumb played during the 1969 tour, taken from 28-11 1st, certainly my most favorite version ever. They play it at a very slow tempo, exactly like at Altamont, Keith´s take on his guitar solo is very gentle and beatiful, the band does not rush the song as they sometimes did and it´s the last time when they played it as a medley with I´m Free at the and. Sadly, the end is cut / edited on the DVD.
I've been playing this Under My Thumb and the new Ruby Tuesday all night! The Under My Thumb is great!
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: January 5, 2020 15:33
Quote
exilestones
Dan wrote:
See below- Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, and I’m Free video soundtrack audio can be added to the 11/28 early show material.
(and maybe Street Fighting Man from Shot of Salvation boot CD) That’ll fatten up the slim 3 song selection we received.
GET YER YA YA’s OUT Original release
Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Jumpin' Jack Flash" (27 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City)
4:02
2. "Carol" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Chuck Berry†
3:47
3. "Stray Cat Blues" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 3:41
4. "Love in Vain" (26 November 1969: Civic Center, Baltimore) Robert Johnson†
4:57
5. "Midnight Rambler" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 9:05
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Sympathy for the Devil" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 6:52
2. "Live with Me" (28 November 1969: MSG – second show) 3:03
3. "Little Queenie" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) Chuck Berry†
4:33
4. "Honky Tonk Women" (27 November 1969: MSG)
3:35
5. "Street Fighting Man" (28 November 1969: MSG – first show) 4:03
2009 DELUXE BOX Bonus track recording dates
Audio
1. "Prodigal Son" – 4:04 (28 November 1969: Madison Square Garden, New York City (second show)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 2:18 (28 November 1969: MSG – second show)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:38 (27 November 1969: MSG)
4. "I'm Free" – 2:47 (27 November 1969: MSG)
5. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" – 5:38 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Video
1. "Prodigal Son" – 2:40 (27 November 1969: MSG)
2. "You Gotta Move" – 1:50 (27 November 1969: MSG)
3. "Under My Thumb" – 3:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
4. "I'm Free" – 1:30 (28 November 1969: MSG – first show)
Sorry, I don't know who to credit for the above info.
As evidneced by the new tapes -HTW from Ya Ya's is also from two shows: it starts with the second show of the 28th, and changes to the 27th show just before the solo section.
Mathijs
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
keithpinkmoon
()
Date: January 5, 2020 16:21
Thank you so much, wiredallnight !!!
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
wiredallnight
()
Date: January 5, 2020 16:36
Here are a few more interesting tracks I found in my collection: [we.tl] (oops it's titled NSG by mistake instead of MSG, but the content is ok...)
01 Jumpin' Jack Flash (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
02 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Time Trip 4 CD (VGP)
03 Love In Vain (1969-11-26 Baltimore) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
04 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (1969-11-28-1st & 2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
05 Honky Tonk Women (1969-11-28-2nd & 27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
06 Street Fighting Man (probably 1969-11-28-1st New York City) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
07 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter VHS 2000 release bonus
08 Carol (1969-11-28-2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
09 Prodigal Son (1969-11-27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
10 Little Queenie (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 17:18 by wiredallnight.
01 Jumpin' Jack Flash (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
02 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Time Trip 4 CD (VGP)
03 Love In Vain (1969-11-26 Baltimore) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
04 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (1969-11-28-1st & 2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
05 Honky Tonk Women (1969-11-28-2nd & 27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
06 Street Fighting Man (probably 1969-11-28-1st New York City) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
07 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter VHS 2000 release bonus
08 Carol (1969-11-28-2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
09 Prodigal Son (1969-11-27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
10 Little Queenie (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-05 17:18 by wiredallnight.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
toomanycds
()
Date: January 5, 2020 22:25
Many thanks for the info and even better the audio
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
Quique-stone
()
Date: January 6, 2020 19:06
Quote
toomanycds
Many thanks for the info and even better the audio
+1! Thanks!
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
hobshobs1
()
Date: January 6, 2020 19:41
Quote
wiredallnight
Here are a few more interesting tracks I found in my collection: [we.tl] (oops it's titled NSG by mistake instead of MSG, but the content is ok...)
01 Jumpin' Jack Flash (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
02 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Time Trip 4 CD (VGP)
03 Love In Vain (1969-11-26 Baltimore) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
04 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (1969-11-28-1st & 2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
05 Honky Tonk Women (1969-11-28-2nd & 27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
06 Street Fighting Man (probably 1969-11-28-1st New York City) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
07 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter VHS 2000 release bonus
08 Carol (1969-11-28-2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
09 Prodigal Son (1969-11-27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
10 Little Queenie (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
Thanks. A great listen.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 6, 2020 19:51
Quote
wiredallnight
Here are a few more interesting tracks I found in my collection: [we.tl] (oops it's titled NSG by mistake instead of MSG, but the content is ok...)
01 Jumpin' Jack Flash (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
02 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Time Trip 4 CD (VGP)
03 Love In Vain (1969-11-26 Baltimore) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
04 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (1969-11-28-1st & 2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
05 Honky Tonk Women (1969-11-28-2nd & 27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD
06 Street Fighting Man (probably 1969-11-28-1st New York City) - A Shot Of Salvation CD (Scorpio)
07 Carol (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter VHS 2000 release bonus
08 Carol (1969-11-28-2nd New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
09 Prodigal Son (1969-11-27 New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
10 Little Queenie (1969-11-28-1st New York City) - Gimme Shelter DVD 2000 release bonus
Thanks! It's hard to sort it all out.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
vancouver
()
Date: January 6, 2020 20:08
the girl /woman in crowd "paint it black.y.
28/2nd
28/2nd
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: January 7, 2020 00:52
Quote
Mathijs
As evidenced by the new tapes - HTW from Ya Ya's is also from two shows: it starts with the second show of the 28th, and changes to the 27th show just before the solo section.
Mathijs
Quote
vancouver
the girl /woman in crowd "paint it black.y.
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Thanks for your insights!
The Gimme Shelter/YaYas mysteries unravel.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
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Date: January 7, 2020 01:12
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SHOT OF SALVATION
So what about the Shot of Salvation boot?
Love In Vain is the same as YaYas (Baltimore) but different?
Which show is Street Fighting Man from (Shot of Salvation)?
Sticky Fingers magazine's review of Shot of Salvation says Street Fighting Man from this disc is the same as the
Street Fighting Man released on Get Yer Ya Yas Out. I know it's the same one as in the Gimme Shelter movie when
all of the equipment was being moved to Altamont. Sticky Fingers mag says it's the 28th, first show. Anyone
know if the above info is correct? Is SFM from Shot of Salvation the same as YaYas?
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RS 1969-74 A Shot of Salvation - Scorpio Old Masters 90-64-17.rar
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Notes that came with the Shot of Salvation download from the Stones Vault says that Street Fighting Man is the 27th.
Shot of Salvation notes from the CD:
ROLLING STONES - A SHOT OF SALVATION - SCORPIO OM 90-64-17
01 Brown Sugar - Muscle Shoals 1969
02 Too Many Cooks- LA Record Plant 1974
03 Love In Vain - NYC, NY 11/27/69 *
04 Gimme Shelter - Livermore, CA 12/6/69 **
05 Street Fighting Man - NYC, NY 11/27/69 *
06 Brown Sugar - Slide Guitar 1970
07 Sway - Alt Mix 1971
08 @#$%& - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
09 Dancing With Mr. D - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
10 Angie - Newcastle 9/13/73 ***
11 Gimme Shelter - Ed Sullivan 12/69
12 Love In Vain (5:10) - Ed Sullivan 12/69
13 Honky Tonk Women - Ed Sullivan 12/69
14 Brown Sugar - Newcastle, UK 9/13/73 ***
15 All Down The Line - 1971
16 Dead Flowers - Dallas, TX 6/25/72 #
17 Prodigal Son - Oakland, CA 11/9/69 ##
18 You Gotta Move ##
NOTES: This was the first outtakes CD to break new ground compared to the vinyl era. It
has outstanding to excellent sound and includes material never before available.
Rumor has it that this and other "Scorpio" and related CDs are made from tapes sold at Sotheby's
auction house, which would explain why the material was "new" to collectors.
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
Broesel2404
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Date: January 7, 2020 12:04
Thank you for the flac's
Re: What's New with MSG 1969?
Posted by:
exilestones
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Date: January 8, 2020 13:01
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...In Addition to the audio in the Gimme Shelter movie, a full Version of the multitrack Gimme Shelter has been circulating in excellent quality for a long time.
Question:
Is it multitracks to the songs in the movie that you are refearing to, or the song GS? -And if it's not the song: are these tracks all complete songs, ie. no cuts, and without other audio mixed in (like audience noise)?
I am referring to the performance of the song.
It was released along with two undoctored Ya-Ya´s tracks on the 1990 Bootleg CD "A Shot of Salvation". Street Fighting Man from 28-11 1st without the vocal overdubs and original vocal intact and Love In Vain from 26-11 with Mick´s pre-song chat included.
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Gimme Shelter is different from the edited version which plays during the Gimme Shelter movie credits at the end. It is the full performance with Keith´s intro, all verses and both Keith guitar solos included as well as Mick and Keith pre-song talk ("One of you can chill one little girl..." "Come on fellas don´t riot").
It´s worth seeking out and the track gives a good indication of what a complete and professionally mixed multitrack Altamont sounds like.
The full edit is also on Youtube but in compressed audio and without pre-song talk:
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Hope this helps...
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