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Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: January 27, 2018 17:08

(deleted, see below!)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-28 21:19 by midnrambler.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: rovalle ()
Date: January 27, 2018 17:13

I'll Bite and thanks

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: January 27, 2018 19:31

Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Thanks a lot for your efforts in upgrading this DAC bootleg midnrambler, it's much appreciated! thumbs up

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: elmuseo ()
Date: January 27, 2018 21:36

thanks

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: January 28, 2018 11:34

Thanks for the upgrade for DAC-048

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: January 28, 2018 12:51

Quote
stonesmuziekfan
Thanks for the upgrade for DAC-048

Appaling shows though (imho). The best strings of 2017 top these two from 2006.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 28, 2018 12:56

Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Are you sure these embarrassing errors are on the original DAC? Hoffmann wrote nothing about these. Or did you just download it anywhere?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-28 12:57 by Monsoon Ragoon.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: January 28, 2018 15:27

Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Hi,
I check my version of DAC 042 and they're no these flaws!
I can make an upload if you want!
anyway lots of thanks for all your uploads!
Norbert

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: January 28, 2018 16:00

I download the Vault version and I check it: it's good too (without errors)

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 28, 2018 16:39

Quote
StonyRoad
Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Hi,
I check my version of DAC 042 and they're no these flaws!
I can make an upload if you want!
anyway lots of thanks for all your uploads!
Norbert

I couldn't imagine that DAC - by far the best Stones bootleg label ever - does embarrassing mistakes like this. I think it's always a problem if there are releases being reviewed that the reviewing person doesn’t have in hand! Reviews should only be made by persons who OWN the original release.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-28 17:22 by Monsoon Ragoon.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: January 28, 2018 20:11

Deleted. I do not want to discuss with people who always know everything better.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-28 22:09 by midnrambler.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 29, 2018 09:00

Quote
midnrambler
Deleted. I do not want to discuss with people who always know everything better.

Means the problem is not your big, but extremely sloopy "Check Review" but DAC and me?

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: January 29, 2018 11:52

DAC-183 : Hyde Park'69 (again).

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 29, 2018 12:34

Who needs another Hyde Park variation? We need a DEFINITIVE EDITION but this one isn't it too as it seems.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: January 29, 2018 15:18

Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Who needs another Hyde Park variation?
[iorr.org]

Mainly : "I just saw that those idiot(s) from DAC will release a new Hyde Park 1969 2CD set using (stealing) the WLIR 1979 broadcast that I uploaded here on IORR some months ago. But that version was just a first attempt of recreating the WLIR broadcast and it turned out to be very wrong (wrong order of tracks and comments, incomplete comments), in other words, it was just crap.
Btw, I have later uploaded the correct WLIR broadcast on EL (but it's gone since the big crash)."

Hence the 2 versions...

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 29, 2018 16:16

Quote
dcba
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Who needs another Hyde Park variation?
[iorr.org]

Mainly : "I just saw that those idiot(s) from DAC will release a new Hyde Park 1969 2CD set using (stealing) the WLIR 1979 broadcast that I uploaded here on IORR some months ago. But that version was just a first attempt of recreating the WLIR broadcast and it turned out to be very wrong (wrong order of tracks and comments, incomplete comments), in other words, it was just crap.
Btw, I have later uploaded the correct WLIR broadcast on EL (but it's gone since the big crash)."

Hence the 2 versions...

Okay. But I think DAC folks are not at all "idiots". Normally they produce the best version of a certain tape or gig. I wonder what's the reason for the obviously (I don't have the thing) ill-fated release of 2016. Great would be a sort of "definitive edition" with all important tapes, maybe something like the 4cd of Oakland II.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: January 29, 2018 17:17

Quote
Quique-stone
Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Thanks a lot for your efforts in upgrading this DAC bootleg midnrambler, it's much appreciated! thumbs up

This made me curious and I downloaded DAC's Rio from the Stones Vault, and the flaws are right there where midnrambler told us...

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 29, 2018 17:48

Quote
Rank Stranger
Quote
Quique-stone
Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Thanks a lot for your efforts in upgrading this DAC bootleg midnrambler, it's much appreciated! thumbs up

This made me curious and I downloaded DAC's Rio from the Stones Vault, and the flaws are right there where midnrambler told us...

The problems are on the DOWNLOAD but probably not on the original CD set. DAC doesn't make serious mistakes.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: mjmjr ()
Date: January 29, 2018 17:51

Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Quote
StonyRoad
Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Hi,
I check my version of DAC 042 and they're no these flaws!
I can make an upload if you want!
anyway lots of thanks for all your uploads!
Norbert

I couldn't imagine that DAC - by far the best Stones bootleg label ever - does embarrassing mistakes like this. I think it's always a problem if there are releases being reviewed that the reviewing person doesn’t have in hand! Reviews should only be made by persons who OWN the original release.

In case you missed it midnrambler does own each original dac....he scanned all the artwork from every dac and upped it here....he also has supplied us with several of the titles here......the guy is a stones expert and knows the history of virtually every stones boot known to man.....do some research before you blast someone who has given us so much over the years.....THANK YOU MIDNRAMBLER for all you do!

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 29, 2018 18:34

Quote
mjmjr
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon
Quote
StonyRoad
Quote
midnrambler
Don't know if I should have posted this here.
This is NOT a genuine DAC release. This is rather how DAC-048 should have been. Because the original DAC-048 has some ugly flaws:
Rio: Cut in Midnight Rambler around 6:10 (about 1 minute missing), and before Rough Justice ("It's a boogie-woogie").
Buenos Aires: Missing intro and band introduction; they used the versions with the Argentinian radio speaker for Shattered and Start Me Up.
Absolutely Mindblowing And Complete: [we.tl]

Hi,
I check my version of DAC 042 and they're no these flaws!
I can make an upload if you want!
anyway lots of thanks for all your uploads!
Norbert

I couldn't imagine that DAC - by far the best Stones bootleg label ever - does embarrassing mistakes like this. I think it's always a problem if there are releases being reviewed that the reviewing person doesn’t have in hand! Reviews should only be made by persons who OWN the original release.

In case you missed it midnrambler does own each original dac....he scanned all the artwork from every dac and upped it here....he also has supplied us with several of the titles here......the guy is a stones expert and knows the history of virtually every stones boot known to man.....do some research before you blast someone who has given us so much over the years.....THANK YOU MIDNRAMBLER for all you do!

Are those mentioned mistakes on the original DAC or not? I don't know what to believe. I don't have it. By the way, my intention is not to "blast" somebody. Not even somebody who judges very harshly himself about other persons/bootleg producers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-29 18:37 by Monsoon Ragoon.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: January 29, 2018 22:11

I quote:
"I couldn't imagine that DAC - by far the best Stones bootleg label ever - does embarrassing mistakes like this. I think it's always a problem if there are releases being reviewed that the reviewing person doesn’t have in hand! Reviews should only be made by persons who OWN the original release."
I quote again:
Are those mentioned mistakes on the original DAC or not? I don't know what to believe. I don't have it. By the way, my intention is not to "blast" somebody. Not even somebody who judges very harshly himself about other persons/bootleg producers.
Interesting !!!
(I quoted messages from: Moonsoon Ragoon (Vincenz Kaiser)
Tons of thanks to midnrambler who shares with us !



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-29 22:18 by hj3009.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: fortilix ()
Date: January 29, 2018 22:14

In case you missed it midnrambler does own each original dac....he scanned all the artwork from every dac and upped it here....he also has supplied us with several of the titles here......the guy is a stones expert and knows the history of virtually every stones boot known to man.....do some research before you blast someone who has given us so much over the years.....THANK YOU MIDNRAMBLER for all you do![/quote]

Plus one! Thanx Midnramblersmileys with beer

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: January 29, 2018 22:19

Just in case I was misunderstood:
I quote:
"I couldn't imagine that DAC - by far the best Stones bootleg label ever - does embarrassing mistakes like this. I think it's always a problem if there are releases being reviewed that the reviewing person doesn’t have in hand! Reviews should only be made by persons who OWN the original release."
I quote again:
Are those mentioned mistakes on the original DAC or not? I don't know what to believe. I don't have it. By the way, my intention is not to "blast" somebody. Not even somebody who judges very harshly himself about other persons/bootleg producers.
Interesting !!!
(I quoted messages from: Moonsoon Ragoon (Vincenz Kaiser) kaiser.vincenz@gmail.com
Tons of thanks to midnrambler who shares with us !
Cheers
Hervé



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-02-01 14:45 by hj3009.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: January 30, 2018 11:47

I did not really want to participate at this discussion anymore, but one last time to make it clear: I have the original silver pressed 4 CD set of DAC-048 and the flaws are there on the original silver pressed 4 CD set of DAC-048 as I described it. DAC is unfortunately by far no longer that great label it used to be (especially as it still was VGP).

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: January 30, 2018 21:56

Quote
midnrambler
I did not really want to participate at this discussion anymore, but one last time to make it clear: I have the original silver pressed 4 CD set of DAC-048 and the flaws are there on the original silver pressed 4 CD set of DAC-048 as I described it. DAC is unfortunately by far no longer that great label it used to be (especially as it still was VGP).

Well, then I have to apologize. I misunderstood something. These threads here are very confusing. Too many crazy people!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-31 21:30 by Monsoon Ragoon.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: January 31, 2018 00:33

Quote
hj3009
Just in case I was misunderstood:

Tons of thanks to midnrambler who shares with us!

You weren't misunderstood at all!

+1 from this corner of the world! Thanks for sharing your stuff all over the years midnrambler! thumbs upsmileys with beer

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: 999 ()
Date: January 31, 2018 17:55

deleted



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-31 17:56 by 999.

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: February 3, 2018 18:49

You could already download the newest DAC months before its release...
here: [iorr.org]
and here: [iorr.org]
The links have however expired now...

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: February 3, 2018 18:57

The least they could do is send you a free copy...cool smiley

Re: Post Label / Publisher "Dog 'n' Cat"
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: February 4, 2018 04:08

Quote
Rank Stranger
The least they could do is send you a free copy...cool smiley

I've said that many times! thumbs up

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