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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-20 19:43 by midnrambler.
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All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
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Date: March 19, 2012 18:54
apart of the FortWorth show, the extended version of "Handsome Girls" (Dandelion) includes 30 SB tracks from 1978.
also existing as SB tracks, not included on "Handsome Girls"
- All Down The Line - Houston remixed version (originally released on LP "Live In Laxington" (1981), later on LP "Lexington '78" (1986) and on CD "Kentucky Fried Rockers".
- Brown Sugar - Houston cleaned-up version - released on LP "Can't Stop Rolling" (OBR) - info from Hoffman Swarzbuch, I have the LP, but never really took the time to check the difference by myself.
- Honky Tonk Women - Houston remixed version - also released on "Can't Stop Rolling" - same comment
- Hound Dog - Lexington - I've found that track on Midnight Rambler's Lexington 1978 compilation
while checking the tracks on the 6LP+4CD set "Exile On Main Street The Real Alternate Album", I was surprised to see a version of All Down The Line with Detroit as source. I couldn't find any SB recording of THIS track from THIS show in my files, so I checked the audience tape, and for sure, this track is really from Detroit. my audience tape in incomplete, missing the intro and the 1st vocal line. but the vocal lines 2/3/4 are identical, the slide guitar is identical, too.
is it a real new track or is it copied from another LP or CD, a tape source ?
or maybe I made a mistake somewhere ?
also existing as SB tracks, not included on "Handsome Girls"
- All Down The Line - Houston remixed version (originally released on LP "Live In Laxington" (1981), later on LP "Lexington '78" (1986) and on CD "Kentucky Fried Rockers".
- Brown Sugar - Houston cleaned-up version - released on LP "Can't Stop Rolling" (OBR) - info from Hoffman Swarzbuch, I have the LP, but never really took the time to check the difference by myself.
- Honky Tonk Women - Houston remixed version - also released on "Can't Stop Rolling" - same comment
- Hound Dog - Lexington - I've found that track on Midnight Rambler's Lexington 1978 compilation
while checking the tracks on the 6LP+4CD set "Exile On Main Street The Real Alternate Album", I was surprised to see a version of All Down The Line with Detroit as source. I couldn't find any SB recording of THIS track from THIS show in my files, so I checked the audience tape, and for sure, this track is really from Detroit. my audience tape in incomplete, missing the intro and the 1st vocal line. but the vocal lines 2/3/4 are identical, the slide guitar is identical, too.
is it a real new track or is it copied from another LP or CD, a tape source ?
or maybe I made a mistake somewhere ?
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
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Date: March 19, 2012 19:11
Yes All Down The Line from Detroit 1978 is available in lossy quality; taken from Wolfgangs Vaults (together with some other songs previously not available from Detroit 1978)
The best source for everything which is available from Detroit is "Sucking In Detroit" (Rattlesnake) (mixture of lossy and lossless sources)
You can find a torrent of the CD on Hungercity.org
The best source for everything which is available from Detroit is "Sucking In Detroit" (Rattlesnake) (mixture of lossy and lossless sources)
You can find a torrent of the CD on Hungercity.org
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: March 19, 2012 19:28
Thanks Erik-Snow, for your answer.
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
detroitken
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Date: March 20, 2012 01:25
Yes...Sucking in Detroit is GREAT...
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
midnrambler
()
Date: March 20, 2012 18:16
Quote
LiveAtHidepark
apart of the FortWorth show, the extended version of "Handsome Girls" (Dandelion) includes 30 SB tracks from 1978.
also existing as SB tracks, not included on "Handsome Girls"
- All Down The Line - Houston remixed version (originally released on LP "Live In Laxington" (1981), later on LP "Lexington '78" (1986) and on CD "Kentucky Fried Rockers".
- Brown Sugar - Houston cleaned-up version - released on LP "Can't Stop Rolling" (OBR) - info from Hoffman Swarzbuch, I have the LP, but never really took the time to check the difference by myself.
- Honky Tonk Women - Houston remixed version - also released on "Can't Stop Rolling" - same comment
What is different in these tracks?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-20 19:43 by midnrambler.
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: March 20, 2012 19:12
All Down The Line - difficult to explain - same instruments but sound different to my ears, and it's not just EQ.
Brown Sugar - end of the song, around 3'30, mick's words "alright motherfu.cker" are edited
Honky Tonk Women - guitar mistake during the intro is wiped out.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-20 19:13 by LiveAtHidepark.
Brown Sugar - end of the song, around 3'30, mick's words "alright motherfu.cker" are edited
Honky Tonk Women - guitar mistake during the intro is wiped out.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-20 19:13 by LiveAtHidepark.
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
Brown Moses
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Date: March 21, 2012 11:19
Where can you get this Exile alternate set ?
Any links to info as to what's on it ?
Any links to info as to what's on it ?
Re: All Down The Line Detroit 1978 On Exile Alternate boxed set
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: March 21, 2012 12:11
about the origin studio tracks, my files are not organised according to Nico or Felix great sites, so the dates and places can be different.
Sous Form 20 Records (trié)
Su Qu Time N Track V Note Date - Place
1 10s 4'21 n Shine A Light 1 with L.Russel August 06, 1969 Skyhill Studios
2 10s 2'48 n Dancing In The Light 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
3 10s 4'17 Y Shake Your Hips 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
4 10s 4'38 n Stop Breaking Down 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
5 10s 4'01 n Shine A Light 2 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
6 10m 3'56 Y All Down The Line 4 promo single mix July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
7 10s 4'19 Y Sweet Virginia 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
8 10s 3'17 n Good Time Women 1 early Tumbling Dice October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
9 9s 3'47 Y I'm Not Signifying 1 early take July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
10 10s 5'15 n Alladin Story 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
11 10s 4'02 n Potted Shrimp 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
12 9m 5'35 n Loving Cup 39 promo soundtrack May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
13 10s 2'51 n Turd On The Run 1 doubtful alternate mix July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
14 7m 2'51 Y I Don't Care 1 Mick on piano & vocal Feb/April 1972 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studio
15 7m 1'21 Y Exile On Main St Blues 1 Gravestones version Feb 1972 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studios
16 10s 4'07 n All Down The Line 2 official early version 1970 London Olympic Studios
1 10s 4'32 n All Down The Line 1 acoustic version October 17 to late October, 1969 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studios
2 10s 6'36 n Loving Cup 2 outtake October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
3 10s 3'00 n I'm Going Down 1 Trident Mixes version April 17 to July 02, 1969 London Olympic Studios
4 9s 5'54 Y Let It Loose 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
5 10s 5'52 n Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
6 10s 3'56 n Plundered My Soul 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
7 10s 3'52 n I'm Not Signifying 3 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
8 10s 4'48 n Following The River 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
9 10s 4'19 n Dancing In The Light 2 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
10 9s 3'00 Y Sweet Black Angel 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
11 10s 4'30 n So Divine (Alladin Story) 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
12 10s 5'23 n Loving Cup 3 official from 2011 Exile October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
13 10s 3'55 n Soul Survivor 2 official from 2011 Exile July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
14 10s 3'19 n Good Time Women 2 official from 2011 Exile October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
15 10s 1'45 n Title 5 1 official from 2011 Exile 1967 London Olympic Studios
1 10s 3'10 n Happy 142 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
2 10s 5'03 n Tumbling Dice 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
3 10s 3'34 n All Down The Line 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
4 10s 2'02 n Rip This Joint 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
5 9s 4'33 n Sweet Virginia 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
6 10s 3'03 n Shake Your Hips 50 tour rehearsals May 1978 Woodstock Bearsville studio
7 10s 4'51 n Rocks Off 0 live - SB March 12-1995 Tokyo Korakuen Dome
8 10m 5'00 n Torn And Frayed 0 live - SB August 16, 2002 Toronto Palais Royale
9 10s 4'17 n Shine A Light 179 Stripped TV show May 27-1995 Amsterdam Paradisio
10 8m 4'35 n Loving Cup 0 live - audience June 03 - 1972 Vancouver Pacific National Exhibition Forum
11 8m 3'24 n Ventilator Blues 0 live - audience June 03 - 1972 Vancouver Pacific National Exhibition Forum
12 9s 2'17 n Rip This Joint 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
13 9s 4'00 n Rocks Off 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
14 10s 5'48 n Tumbling Dice 0 live - SB - track 15 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
15 10s 3'20 n Happy 0 live - SB - track 16 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
16 10s 4'03 Y All Down The Line 0 live - SB - track 35 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
17 9s 5'34 n Loving Cup 39 promo soundtrack May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
18 10s 3.36 n Shake Your Hips 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
19 10s 3.31 n Bluesberry Jam 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
20 10s 4.12 n Tumbling Dice 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
21 10s 3.32 n John's Jam 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
22 10s 4.36 n Tumbling Dice 40 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
1 8s 7'16 Y Exile Instrumental 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
2 8s 4'05 Y Soul Survivor 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
3 8s 4'07 Y I'm Not Signifying 2 outtake July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
4 8s 4'34 Y Rocks Off 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
5 8s 2'33 Y Rip This Joint 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
6 8s 4'01 Y All Down The Line 3 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
7 st 3'51 Y Sweet Virginia 1001 official - KR with JL Lewis late 2009 - early 2010 Nashvile and/or Memphis and/or Los Angeles various studios
Sous Form 20 Records (trié)
Su Qu Time N Track V Note Date - Place
1 10s 4'21 n Shine A Light 1 with L.Russel August 06, 1969 Skyhill Studios
2 10s 2'48 n Dancing In The Light 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
3 10s 4'17 Y Shake Your Hips 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
4 10s 4'38 n Stop Breaking Down 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
5 10s 4'01 n Shine A Light 2 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
6 10m 3'56 Y All Down The Line 4 promo single mix July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
7 10s 4'19 Y Sweet Virginia 1 early version October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
8 10s 3'17 n Good Time Women 1 early Tumbling Dice October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
9 9s 3'47 Y I'm Not Signifying 1 early take July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
10 10s 5'15 n Alladin Story 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
11 10s 4'02 n Potted Shrimp 1 instrumental Nov 1972 Hollywood Elektra Studios
12 9m 5'35 n Loving Cup 39 promo soundtrack May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
13 10s 2'51 n Turd On The Run 1 doubtful alternate mix July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
14 7m 2'51 Y I Don't Care 1 Mick on piano & vocal Feb/April 1972 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studio
15 7m 1'21 Y Exile On Main St Blues 1 Gravestones version Feb 1972 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studios
16 10s 4'07 n All Down The Line 2 official early version 1970 London Olympic Studios
1 10s 4'32 n All Down The Line 1 acoustic version October 17 to late October, 1969 Los Angeles Sunset Sound Studios
2 10s 6'36 n Loving Cup 2 outtake October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
3 10s 3'00 n I'm Going Down 1 Trident Mixes version April 17 to July 02, 1969 London Olympic Studios
4 9s 5'54 Y Let It Loose 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
5 10s 5'52 n Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
6 10s 3'56 n Plundered My Soul 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
7 10s 3'52 n I'm Not Signifying 3 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
8 10s 4'48 n Following The River 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
9 10s 4'19 n Dancing In The Light 2 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
10 9s 3'00 Y Sweet Black Angel 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
11 10s 4'30 n So Divine (Alladin Story) 1 official from 2011 Exile Automn 2009 New York & Los Angeles One East Rec. , Henson Rec. & Village Recorder
12 10s 5'23 n Loving Cup 3 official from 2011 Exile October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
13 10s 3'55 n Soul Survivor 2 official from 2011 Exile July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
14 10s 3'19 n Good Time Women 2 official from 2011 Exile October 17-31, 1970 London Olympic Sound studios
15 10s 1'45 n Title 5 1 official from 2011 Exile 1967 London Olympic Studios
1 10s 3'10 n Happy 142 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
2 10s 5'03 n Tumbling Dice 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
3 10s 3'34 n All Down The Line 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
4 10s 2'02 n Rip This Joint 141 live - SB October 17 - 1973 1st show Brussels Forest National
5 9s 4'33 n Sweet Virginia 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
6 10s 3'03 n Shake Your Hips 50 tour rehearsals May 1978 Woodstock Bearsville studio
7 10s 4'51 n Rocks Off 0 live - SB March 12-1995 Tokyo Korakuen Dome
8 10m 5'00 n Torn And Frayed 0 live - SB August 16, 2002 Toronto Palais Royale
9 10s 4'17 n Shine A Light 179 Stripped TV show May 27-1995 Amsterdam Paradisio
10 8m 4'35 n Loving Cup 0 live - audience June 03 - 1972 Vancouver Pacific National Exhibition Forum
11 8m 3'24 n Ventilator Blues 0 live - audience June 03 - 1972 Vancouver Pacific National Exhibition Forum
12 9s 2'17 n Rip This Joint 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
13 9s 4'00 n Rocks Off 0 live - SB June 24 - 1972 2nd show Fort Worth Tarrant County Convention Center
14 10s 5'48 n Tumbling Dice 0 live - SB - track 15 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
15 10s 3'20 n Happy 0 live - SB - track 16 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
16 10s 4'03 Y All Down The Line 0 live - SB - track 35 July 06-1978 Detroit Masonic Hall
17 9s 5'34 n Loving Cup 39 promo soundtrack May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
18 10s 3.36 n Shake Your Hips 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
19 10s 3.31 n Bluesberry Jam 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
20 10s 4.12 n Tumbling Dice 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
21 10s 3.32 n John's Jam 39 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
22 10s 4.36 n Tumbling Dice 40 tour rehearsals May 17-21, 1972 Montreux Rialto Theatre
1 8s 7'16 Y Exile Instrumental 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
2 8s 4'05 Y Soul Survivor 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
3 8s 4'07 Y I'm Not Signifying 2 outtake July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
4 8s 4'34 Y Rocks Off 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
5 8s 2'33 Y Rip This Joint 1 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
6 8s 4'01 Y All Down The Line 3 instrumental July to Nov 1971 St Jean Cap Ferrat Nellcote
7 st 3'51 Y Sweet Virginia 1001 official - KR with JL Lewis late 2009 - early 2010 Nashvile and/or Memphis and/or Los Angeles various studios
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