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No matter what you see or what your hear.
That's an excellent point.
Also, think of it from a kids perspective - who wants to listen to the stuff their parents are playing.
Same for Star Star - try that one next.
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heck...it's not like the Stones are equivalent to Barry Manilow or Lawrence Welk......If my parents had listened to Stones & Beatles I probably would've given them (my parents) more respect.
IORR............but I like it!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 14:19 by sweet neo con.
Hahaha - i was thinking that too!!
Absolutely the right track!
Wait until they finish working on the 'new graceland' experience though.
Its all a bit of a let down right now.
Not in the best part of town and all.
Trust me Elvis would have moved if he hadn't died.
yep, Cindy. thanks for your compliment.
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You teach them to like the Stones ?
Impossible,you just can show them a path to get in touch somehow with the music,the past,background knowledge,simply some basics.
But it cannot be taught as let´s say math or latin.
How do you know that you succeeded ?
It´s nothing wrong to tell them about,but as a purpose : to like the Stones ?
Wrong
Cindy it's a good point, but there is so much less new, good music around at present for kids to rebel with. I find it odd that the music coming from both my son's rooms is music I listened to twenty-something years ago.
Sadly, the older one liked the Stones better before he saw them at the 02, he now prefers the Who...
I agree 100%.
I remember around 1989, one of the comic strips in the paper (can't remember which one) some balding 40-something dad was trying to get his Gen-X kid to like The Doors. Frothing at the mouth he would badger his son for a week about how cool, hip and dangerous the music of his age was.
Please, dads out there, don't embarrass yourselves!
[thepowergoats.com]
So you and your wife are expecting a baby? Congratulations my Milwaukee friend.
Yeah congrats SNC...But why lullaby versions of the Stones. Start blasting Exile right into the womb.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
with all respect sff, but where has your sense of humour gone? it was meant as a joke. of course you can't teach children to like the Stones.
but: I did take my students out to the Let It Bleed exhibition, after watching Gimme Shelter in class.
My students know all about my passion for the Stones. It's something I share with a lot of them , even with some of their parents too. We watch the Stones, I make them listen to bootlegs/interesting recordings(not only Stones). Furthermore, I invite them to all my Stones related activities. I invited Chris Jagger to do a clinic at my school, some 20 students took part. Some students, mostly musos themselves, are into the Stones and the likes of Hendrix, LedZep, Dylan, etc.. It is great fun; I have never had any complaints. BTW, these clinics are a source of inspiration to these youngsters. Tim Ries, Bernard Fowler and Blondie Chaplin have also offered their expertise at my school.
[www.paulinestroosnijder.com]
Passing back tons of respect you see me crawling in the dust of shame...,juf.
Wasn´t obviously my best day, I apologize.
And thanks for the helpful posts concerning Marianne Faithfull
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 19:16 by shortfatfanny.
Thanks Lukester and SweetCharmedLife!
Yep....due date is early April (no...it's not an April Fool's joke).
First baby. It's going to be a girl!
Actually my wife bought the CD.
I guess it's only right...since Jen & I got engaged at the
Stones B2Babylon show in Madison.
Hey SCL...I guess we'll have to ease her into TURD ON THE RUN (Exile)...
...just planting the seeds with the lullaby versions...but we have strapped
the AKG headphones onto mom's belly for some Stones & Beatles.
IORR............but I like it!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 19:28 by sweet neo con.
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Teach your kids!
Posted by:
sonyzzz
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Date: November 19, 2008 21:49
My little girls was listening to something on the Disney channel, she said she love this certain song. I asked her why? They said they like the beat. I said what about the groove? what about the bridge? what about the arrangement. They
looked at me like I had 3 heads, I played bitch for them and pointed to the wall where my 4 friends are on the couch mounted on the wall. They said them
old guys played that. I said honey we all get old.
looked at me like I had 3 heads, I played bitch for them and pointed to the wall where my 4 friends are on the couch mounted on the wall. They said them
old guys played that. I said honey we all get old.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
CindyC
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:05
Quote
sonyzzz
we all get old.
No matter what you see or what your hear.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
deuce
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:05
did anyone have to teach you to like the stones?
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Munichhilton
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:09
Bitch...not bad but I would've tried Slave.
A groove no small child can ignore...
A groove no small child can ignore...
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
CindyC
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:10
Quote
deuce
did anyone have to teach you to like the stones?
That's an excellent point.
Also, think of it from a kids perspective - who wants to listen to the stuff their parents are playing.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
CindyC
()
Date: November 19, 2008 22:16
Quote
Munichhilton
Bitch...not bad but I would've tried Slave.
A groove no small child can ignore...
Same for Star Star - try that one next.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
the juf
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:20
no, but I do teach my pupils at secondary school to like the Stones. Tomorrow I am taking them to the Let It Bleed photo exhibition in Amsterdam, Ethan Russell's pix of the 1969 tour. I showed Gimme Shelter in class, now it is time to watch the pix.Quote
deuce
did anyone have to teach you to like the stones?
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Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
CindyC
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:27
the juf - are you Pauline?
Nice website.
Nice website.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Lukester
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:44
But why did you mount 4 friends and a couch on a wall? No wonder your kids thought you had 3 heads.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
deuce
()
Date: November 19, 2008 22:46
i'm just saying, exposing them is one thing. but telling them to like them is absurd.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
sweet neo con
()
Date: November 19, 2008 22:47
Quote
CindyCQuote
deuce
did anyone have to teach you to like the stones?
That's an excellent point.
Also, think of it from a kids perspective - who wants to listen to the stuff their parents are playing.
heck...it's not like the Stones are equivalent to Barry Manilow or Lawrence Welk......If my parents had listened to Stones & Beatles I probably would've given them (my parents) more respect.
IORR............but I like it!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 14:19 by sweet neo con.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
kovach
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Date: November 19, 2008 22:59
My 7 year old wants to go to Graceland for his birthday. I think he's on the right track!
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
CindyC
()
Date: November 19, 2008 23:02
Quote
Lukester
But why did you mount 4 friends and a couch on a wall? No wonder your kids thought you had 3 heads.
Hahaha - i was thinking that too!!
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: November 19, 2008 23:04
Quote
kovach
My 7 year old wants to go to Graceland for his birthday. I think he's on the right track!
Absolutely the right track!
Wait until they finish working on the 'new graceland' experience though.
Its all a bit of a let down right now.
Not in the best part of town and all.
Trust me Elvis would have moved if he hadn't died.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
the juf
()
Date: November 19, 2008 23:04
Quote
CindyC
the juf - are you Pauline?
yep, Cindy. thanks for your compliment.
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Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Green Lady
()
Date: November 19, 2008 23:44
I said what about the groove? what about the bridge? what about the arrangement?
I've been loving the Stones for 45 years and I still don't think I'd know what to say if someone talked to me like that! With music, loving it comes first - you learn the technical stuff later, and sometimes not at all.
I can remember our (classical) music teacher, sometime in the 1960s, asking us 14-year-olds to bring in our own records to play, and being totally baffled because none of us could explain WHY we found the Beatles and the Stones so fascinating. On the other hand, we studied various pieces of classical music for O-Level: by the end of the course I could dissect, explain and "appreciate" them very convincingly (I passed that exam) but still there were some I loved and some I didn't, and being able to talk intelligently about them didn't make that much difference.
After forgetting all the details you need to learn to pass your exams, I think THE lesson that I learned from O-Level music is - don't dismiss anything at the first hearing. Listen and listen again. So if your kids do begin to love the Stones, it won't be because you have taught them about arrangements, or what is a bridge and why - it will be because they have listened to the music enough for it to work its way into their affections.
(By the way, they'll probably never actually ADMIT that they like anything from Dad's record collection - would you have done, at their age?)
I've been loving the Stones for 45 years and I still don't think I'd know what to say if someone talked to me like that! With music, loving it comes first - you learn the technical stuff later, and sometimes not at all.
I can remember our (classical) music teacher, sometime in the 1960s, asking us 14-year-olds to bring in our own records to play, and being totally baffled because none of us could explain WHY we found the Beatles and the Stones so fascinating. On the other hand, we studied various pieces of classical music for O-Level: by the end of the course I could dissect, explain and "appreciate" them very convincingly (I passed that exam) but still there were some I loved and some I didn't, and being able to talk intelligently about them didn't make that much difference.
After forgetting all the details you need to learn to pass your exams, I think THE lesson that I learned from O-Level music is - don't dismiss anything at the first hearing. Listen and listen again. So if your kids do begin to love the Stones, it won't be because you have taught them about arrangements, or what is a bridge and why - it will be because they have listened to the music enough for it to work its way into their affections.
(By the way, they'll probably never actually ADMIT that they like anything from Dad's record collection - would you have done, at their age?)
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
mexicostone
()
Date: November 20, 2008 00:04
Tell them old guys made the old music , if the old music wasn't there , there wouldn't be any jonas brothers shit these days.
At that age , how would they understand.
My 10 year old sister also loves that stuff from disney channel , but the little boys wouldn't understand anything , she doesn't care about music , i've even taken my guitar with me to her room and played for her trying to stop the jonas shit from the TV , but she doesn't care in anyway , she would just say they're a lot more handsome than me , and that they're just amazing.
No band has any amazing thing on them , it's the good music they make that give you special and amazing feelings.
It's always the same , maybe some of you right here on IORR discovered the stones that way , cuz it was just cool to listen to them on the 60's , it's the same now , small boyz love disney channel cuz it's just cool to listen that music.
The only difference is the stones changed and they really worked hard and enjoyed their music through the years and never left it , and still they do.
These Disney shit won't mean anything to the little boyz and girlz in 4 years or so.You don't have to prove anything to the small guys .
At that age , how would they understand.
My 10 year old sister also loves that stuff from disney channel , but the little boys wouldn't understand anything , she doesn't care about music , i've even taken my guitar with me to her room and played for her trying to stop the jonas shit from the TV , but she doesn't care in anyway , she would just say they're a lot more handsome than me , and that they're just amazing.
No band has any amazing thing on them , it's the good music they make that give you special and amazing feelings.
It's always the same , maybe some of you right here on IORR discovered the stones that way , cuz it was just cool to listen to them on the 60's , it's the same now , small boyz love disney channel cuz it's just cool to listen that music.
The only difference is the stones changed and they really worked hard and enjoyed their music through the years and never left it , and still they do.
These Disney shit won't mean anything to the little boyz and girlz in 4 years or so.You don't have to prove anything to the small guys .
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: November 20, 2008 00:56
Quote
the jufno, but I do teach my pupils at secondary school to like the Stones. Tomorrow I am taking them to the Let It Bleed photo exhibition in Amsterdam, Ethan Russell's pix of the 1969 tour. I showed Gimme Shelter in class, now it is time to watch the pix.Quote
deuce
did anyone have to teach you to like the stones?
You teach them to like the Stones ?
Impossible,you just can show them a path to get in touch somehow with the music,the past,background knowledge,simply some basics.
But it cannot be taught as let´s say math or latin.
How do you know that you succeeded ?
It´s nothing wrong to tell them about,but as a purpose : to like the Stones ?
Wrong
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Wuudy
()
Date: November 20, 2008 03:19
Bitch, Star Star?! Good songs with nice lyrics to teach your kids ;-)
My farther "taught" me the stones by just playing it at home. Only the first couple of records, Aftermath was the "newest" one he had. I still think it is the most exilirating music there is, just awesome R&B! You get turned on by music you hear, i think that is the only way.
Cheers,
Wuudy
My farther "taught" me the stones by just playing it at home. Only the first couple of records, Aftermath was the "newest" one he had. I still think it is the most exilirating music there is, just awesome R&B! You get turned on by music you hear, i think that is the only way.
Cheers,
Wuudy
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
schillid
()
Date: November 20, 2008 04:48
My 11 year old son likes Beatles, Who, Doors, LedZep...
but NOT the Stones!
He'll learn
but NOT the Stones!
He'll learn
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Stargroves
()
Date: November 20, 2008 13:08
Quote
CindyC
[Also, think of it from a kids perspective - who wants to listen to the stuff their parents are playing.
Cindy it's a good point, but there is so much less new, good music around at present for kids to rebel with. I find it odd that the music coming from both my son's rooms is music I listened to twenty-something years ago.
Sadly, the older one liked the Stones better before he saw them at the 02, he now prefers the Who...
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
jamesfdouglas
()
Date: November 20, 2008 13:51
Quote
deuce
i'm just saying, exposing them is one thing. but telling them to like them is absurd.
I agree 100%.
I remember around 1989, one of the comic strips in the paper (can't remember which one) some balding 40-something dad was trying to get his Gen-X kid to like The Doors. Frothing at the mouth he would badger his son for a week about how cool, hip and dangerous the music of his age was.
Please, dads out there, don't embarrass yourselves!
[thepowergoats.com]
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
sweet neo con
()
Date: November 20, 2008 14:17
I recently purchased this CD for our forthcoming bundle of joy....
IORR............but I like it!
IORR............but I like it!
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
dunhill
()
Date: November 20, 2008 15:18
Then, in a few days, the next subject would be the flowers and the bees ...Quote
Munichhilton
Bitch...not bad but I would've tried Slave.
A groove no small child can ignore...
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Lukester
()
Date: November 20, 2008 16:57
Quote
sweet neo con
I recently purchased this CD for our forthcoming bundle of joy....
So you and your wife are expecting a baby? Congratulations my Milwaukee friend.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
Father Ted
()
Date: November 20, 2008 18:05
Quote
mexicostone
Tell them old guys made the old music , if the old music wasn't there , there wouldn't be any jonas brothers shit these days...quote]
Those old guys have a lot to answer for ;-)
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: November 20, 2008 18:07
Quote
LukesterQuote
sweet neo con
I recently purchased this CD for our forthcoming bundle of joy....
So you and your wife are expecting a baby? Congratulations my Milwaukee friend.
Yeah congrats SNC...But why lullaby versions of the Stones. Start blasting Exile right into the womb.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
the juf
()
Date: November 20, 2008 18:46
Quote
shortfatfanny
You teach them to like the Stones ?
Impossible,you just can show them a path to get in touch somehow with the music,the past,background knowledge,simply some basics.
But it cannot be taught as let´s say math or latin.
How do you know that you succeeded ?
It´s nothing wrong to tell them about,but as a purpose : to like the Stones ?
Wrong
with all respect sff, but where has your sense of humour gone? it was meant as a joke. of course you can't teach children to like the Stones.
but: I did take my students out to the Let It Bleed exhibition, after watching Gimme Shelter in class.
My students know all about my passion for the Stones. It's something I share with a lot of them , even with some of their parents too. We watch the Stones, I make them listen to bootlegs/interesting recordings(not only Stones). Furthermore, I invite them to all my Stones related activities. I invited Chris Jagger to do a clinic at my school, some 20 students took part. Some students, mostly musos themselves, are into the Stones and the likes of Hendrix, LedZep, Dylan, etc.. It is great fun; I have never had any complaints. BTW, these clinics are a source of inspiration to these youngsters. Tim Ries, Bernard Fowler and Blondie Chaplin have also offered their expertise at my school.
[www.paulinestroosnijder.com]
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: November 20, 2008 19:06
Quote
the jufQuote
shortfatfanny
You teach them to like the Stones ?
Impossible,you just can show them a path to get in touch somehow with the music,the past,background knowledge,simply some basics.
But it cannot be taught as let´s say math or latin.
How do you know that you succeeded ?
It´s nothing wrong to tell them about,but as a purpose : to like the Stones ?
Wrong
with all respect sff, but where has your sense of humour gone? it was meant as a joke. of course you can't teach children to like the Stones.
but: I did take my students out to the Let It Bleed exhibition, after watching Gimme Shelter in class.
My students know all about my passion for the Stones. It's something I share with a lot of them , even with some of their parents too. We watch the Stones, I make them listen to bootlegs/interesting recordings(not only Stones). Furthermore, I invite them to all my Stones related activities. I invited Chris Jagger to do a clinic at my school, some 20 students took part. Some students, mostly musos themselves, are into the Stones and the likes of Hendrix, LedZep, Dylan, etc.. It is great fun; I have never had any complaints. BTW, these clinics are a source of inspiration to these youngsters. Tim Ries, Bernard Fowler and Blondie Chaplin have also offered their expertise at my school.
Passing back tons of respect you see me crawling in the dust of shame...,juf.
Wasn´t obviously my best day, I apologize.
And thanks for the helpful posts concerning Marianne Faithfull
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 19:16 by shortfatfanny.
Re: Teach your kids!
Posted by:
sweet neo con
()
Date: November 20, 2008 19:24
Quote
LukesterQuote
sweet neo con
I recently purchased this CD for our forthcoming bundle of joy....
So you and your wife are expecting a baby? Congratulations my Milwaukee friend.
Thanks Lukester and SweetCharmedLife!
Yep....due date is early April (no...it's not an April Fool's joke).
First baby. It's going to be a girl!
Actually my wife bought the CD.
I guess it's only right...since Jen & I got engaged at the
Stones B2Babylon show in Madison.
Hey SCL...I guess we'll have to ease her into TURD ON THE RUN (Exile)...
...just planting the seeds with the lullaby versions...but we have strapped
the AKG headphones onto mom's belly for some Stones & Beatles.
IORR............but I like it!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-20 19:28 by sweet neo con.
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