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Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: olorin ()
Date: November 9, 2008 18:23

We all know the problems Ronnie had had with drinking.
We all noticed his playing has improved on the last two tours because he got sober (at least during the tour)
And we all noticed Ekterina seduce Ronnie while they were drinking together

So, if Ekterina follows him on an possible future tour, we could fear Ronnie to be drinking a lot with his new girlfriend, and so that his guitar playing become again what it was for example on VL tour.

It is Ronnie that hold the band on the end of the tour when Keith was out of purpose. I fear that in case of a new tour, if Keith is again out of purpose, Ronnie wouldn't be able to play as well as he played in 2007.


Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Amused ()
Date: November 9, 2008 18:28

kind of offtopic note... maybe he should start smoking? it seems to improve playing abilities, especially when alcohol fails winking smiley

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: stonesmusicfan ()
Date: November 9, 2008 18:38

They lose something when they aren't doing ANYTHING wrong with their lives...they stay alive longer but their lives have be DULL !

And with THAT goes the music !

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: olorin ()
Date: November 9, 2008 19:21

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stonesmusicfan
They lose something when they aren't doing ANYTHING wrong with their lives...they stay alive longer but their lives have be DULL !

And with THAT goes the music !

Yes but when I pay €75 or more to see the Rolling Stones, I want to see guitar players who are able to play guitar.
And living with 19-years-old girl when you're 60 or more, is not very common. I don't want him not to be with Ekterina. I want him to play great guitar when he will be on stage.
Compare 1994 and 2007. There is a big difference. In 2007, Ronnie is a very guitarist. In 1994, Ronnie is hardly a guitarist


Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)

Re: The Rolling Stones
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 9, 2008 19:38

er ... anyone in favour of waiting to hear if there's any cause for concern?
and if there is, then olorin can start a petition - that should work! :E
meanwhile, have some popcorn.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: November 9, 2008 19:44

The latest gossip in the UK papers suggests that Ekaterina might actually be good for Ronnie's sobriety!

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

(if you can believe the Daily Mail - but he doesn't look bad in that picture)

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: olorin ()
Date: November 9, 2008 20:30

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Green Lady
The latest gossip in the UK papers suggests that Ekaterina might actually be good for Ronnie's sobriety!

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

(if you can believe the Daily Mail - but he doesn't look bad in that picture)

Who Wood believe that ??? grinning smiley


Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: stonesmusicfan ()
Date: November 9, 2008 20:44

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olorin
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stonesmusicfan
They lose something when they aren't doing ANYTHING wrong with their lives...they stay alive longer but their lives have be DULL !

And with THAT goes the music !

Yes but when I pay €75 or more to see the Rolling Stones, I want to see guitar players who are able to play guitar.
And living with 19-years-old girl when you're 60 or more, is not very common. I don't want him not to be with Ekterina. I want him to play great guitar when he will be on stage.
Compare 1994 and 2007. There is a big difference. In 2007, Ronnie is a very guitarist. In 1994, Ronnie is hardly a guitarist


Geeeeeez, it used to be great to see a concert, and find out who was out of their MIND !

Pass the tea and crumpet !

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: November 9, 2008 22:29

My personal opinion is she wont be a help at all with his sobriety and I suspect a bad end to that dept. BUT it aint my business anyway. All Ron owes me is a good show for my money-after that its his life! I wish him well though.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: SimonV ()
Date: November 9, 2008 22:36

His playing on the VL tour rocked if you ask me..

And he wasn't sober on the ABB tour, believe me.. That bad an alcoholic can hardly be sober for more than a month straight.

Simon
myspace.com/koningsimon

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 10, 2008 05:02

Remember when Wyman married a 13 year old? I have the same feeling about Wood and his new girl friend.

Mathijs

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: timbernardis ()
Date: November 10, 2008 05:13

was it 13 or 16?

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: November 10, 2008 05:32

Oh my God... When has he held the band with his playing? If his playing were better Keith just might do what he does best, which is play the groove, instead pf playin the Chuck Berry licks on every solo. Remember this band is composed of more than two members.

23 years of marriage for a Rolling Stone is not bad. I can't imagine Jo putting up with him, am sure Woody also wondered for all those wild times. I can imagine been 60 + and have a hotty like this one keeping me off the Viagra.

Its all about been happy in the end. Am sure everyone has their reasons for doing the things they do. And sometimes it sucks.

I can't imagine how bad the guitar section will sound when they go back on the road. Jesus!!..

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Wuudy ()
Date: November 10, 2008 06:30

There personal lives are nothing but there own business IMO but it's a little bit weird if you'd ask me (but fortunately nobody does ;-)). I think the age differents with Wyman and that 16 year old was less at the time. But Sheryl Crow ones wrote a nice song which always comes handy "If it makes you happy, It can't be that bad... "

Appaerantly Jo Wood is doing ok according to the next article. Good for her!!!!!!


Ronnie Wood's estranged wife Jo loves being single
07-11-2008 - 21:41
Jo, who was left devastated when the Rolling Stones rocker left her to start a relationship with 20-year-old Russian beauty Ekaterina Ivanova, is embracing life on her own.

Jo said: "I decided the only way to deal with this was to keep my mind off it – get out there and meet new people."

"I'm going to the gym a lot, I'm going to lots of parties – I’m exhausted. Actually, the funny thing is, I should be but I’m not. I’m having a great time."

Despite enjoying her freedom, the 53-year-old former model has admitted she misses Ronnie’s presence in their marital home.

Earlier this week Jo said: "Lately I've been dreaming of Ronnie. I miss his presence in the home. After 31 years together, I’m bound to need time to get him out of my system."

Troubled rocker Ronnie, 61, ran away with Ekaterina to Ireland for an alcohol-fuelled trip in July.

He was expected to return to Jo – who he married 23 years ago - after completing a stint in rehab in September.

Instead he continued to romance Ekaterina after being treated for drugs, alcohol and sex addiction.

Last week, Jo was seen wearing her wedding ring at a catwalk show for the London College of Fashion.

©2008 AOL Australia Pty Limited in association with Bang Showbiz. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Cheers,
Wuudy

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: November 10, 2008 08:07

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Loudei
I can imagine been 60 + and have a hotty like this one keeping me off the Viagra.


Probably more like ON the Viagra...

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:12

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Mathijs
Remember when Wyman married a 13 year old? I have the same feeling about Wood and his new girl friend.

Mathijs

There is no comparison. Mandy Smith was 13 and this Russian girl is in her 20's. Ronnie is a fool, but no peadophile. Sorry Bill.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:19

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Big Al
Quote
Mathijs
Remember when Wyman married a 13 year old? I have the same feeling about Wood and his new girl friend.

Mathijs

There is no comparison. Mandy Smith was 13 and this Russian girl is in her 20's. Ronnie is a fool, but no peadophile. Sorry Bill.

The TRUE meaning of pedophilia (as opposed to the British tabloid version) is PRE-PUBESCENT! Mandy Smith was young, but she'd certainly started menstruating (& I certainly would've gone for her if I was in Bill's shoes at the time, a very sexy young woman!).



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-10 16:21 by Sleepy City.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:22

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Sleepy City
Quote
Big Al
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Mathijs
Remember when Wyman married a 13 year old? I have the same feeling about Wood and his new girl friend.

Mathijs

There is no comparison. Mandy Smith was 13 and this Russian girl is in her 20's. Ronnie is a fool, but no peadophile. Sorry Bill.

The TRUE meaning of pedophilia (as opposed to the British tabloid version) is PRE-PUBESCENT! Mandy Smith was young, but she'd certainly started menstruating (I certainly would've gone for her if I was in Bill's shoes).

Presumably if you had a 13 year old daughter you would raise no objections either??

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:28

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jlowe
Quote
Sleepy City
Quote
Big Al
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Mathijs
Remember when Wyman married a 13 year old? I have the same feeling about Wood and his new girl friend.

Mathijs

There is no comparison. Mandy Smith was 13 and this Russian girl is in her 20's. Ronnie is a fool, but no peadophile. Sorry Bill.

The TRUE meaning of pedophilia (as opposed to the British tabloid version) is PRE-PUBESCENT! Mandy Smith was young, but she'd certainly started menstruating (I certainly would've gone for her if I was in Bill's shoes).

Presumably if you had a 13 year old daughter you would raise no objections either??

Only from a legal point of view, not a moral one...

Heck, have I logged into the Pat Boone forum by mistake?

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:33

So what age are we going down to...eight/nine/ten...is that o.k?
Gary Glitter....an o.k. guy then?
I don't think Keith would support this view, for one.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:38

Quote
jlowe
So what age are we going down to...eight/nine/ten...is that o.k?
Gary Glitter....an o.k. guy then?
I don't think Keith would support this view, for one.

Personally I feel that 13 is an acceptable lower age limit, as long as the individual feels ready (many people don't feel ready for sex at 16 or 18 & that's fine too).

And there's a BIG difference between consensual intercourse & molestation. Bill & Mandy were clearly in love with eachother at the time.

"I can see that you're thirteen years old, No I don't want your ID"...

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: sonyzzz ()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:39

If he screws up he only has himself to blame. Might be time to grow up.
I don't think Mick will take to much more shit. (Are you listening Mick Taylor?)

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 10, 2008 17:30

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Sleepy City
Personally I feel that 13 is an acceptable lower age limit, as long as the individual feels ready (many people don't feel ready for sex at 16 or 18 & that's fine too).

And there's a BIG difference between consensual intercourse & molestation. Bill & Mandy were clearly in love with eachother at the time.

"I can see that you're thirteen years old, No I don't want your ID"...

I am appaled. Are you seriously telling me that a 13 year-old is capable of fully-formed adult decisions, such as engaging in intercorse?

Are you trying to tell us something here?

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: November 10, 2008 18:12

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Big Al
Quote
Sleepy City
Personally I feel that 13 is an acceptable lower age limit, as long as the individual feels ready (many people don't feel ready for sex at 16 or 18 & that's fine too).

And there's a BIG difference between consensual intercourse & molestation. Bill & Mandy were clearly in love with eachother at the time.

"I can see that you're thirteen years old, No I don't want your ID"...

I am appaled. Are you seriously telling me that a 13 year-old is capable of fully-formed adult decisions, such as engaging in intercorse?

Are you trying to tell us something here?

SOME of them, yes, & I'm not the only one who seems to think so...check out the age of consent in countries like Spain for instance:

[www.avert.org]

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: November 10, 2008 18:14

Quote
Sleepy City
Quote
Big Al
Quote
Sleepy City
Personally I feel that 13 is an acceptable lower age limit, as long as the individual feels ready (many people don't feel ready for sex at 16 or 18 & that's fine too).

And there's a BIG difference between consensual intercourse & molestation. Bill & Mandy were clearly in love with eachother at the time.

"I can see that you're thirteen years old, No I don't want your ID"...

I am appaled. Are you seriously telling me that a 13 year-old is capable of fully-formed adult decisions, such as engaging in intercorse?

Are you trying to tell us something here?

SOME of them, yes, & I'm not the only one who seems to think so...check out the age of consent in countries like Spain for instance:

[www.avert.org]

But as I said earlier, I don't believe some 18 year olds are ready to make that decision. Everyone's different.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: dougie ()
Date: November 10, 2008 19:12

Ronnie is an adult. He seems to be having fun. Right on!

Everytime an 18 year old is walking by in a provacative outfit- I am seduced. That is humane nature. And, he is a rock star and wanted it. Right on. Life is short, go for it Ronnie.

The 18 year old law in the United States seems pretty fair- she is free game and I am happy if Ronnie is happy. Sure, I hope he does another tour and plays amazing as he has done during the past two tours. But, all I know is that I am thankful for everything Ronnie has given to me and all Stones fans.

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 10, 2008 19:32

Ronnie playing was great on the last tour and I can't wait for the next one!!
He was the star of the show on many occasions and I was so pleased to see him playing great. Many of the solos that I saw him play, really blew me away and I felt really happy to see him performing this way again.

I like Clapton as a guitarist but he is not Rolling Stones material and never will be.

As long as Ronnie is sober enough to play well, I really don't care about the details of his private life and neither should anybody else.
I really dont understand why people are talking about Ronnie being replaced at all. Mick will make sure Ronnie is sober when it's time to go on tour and he will kick ass once again!

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 10, 2008 19:34

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vudicus
Ronnie playing was great on the last tour and I can't wait for the next one!!
He was the star of the show on many occasions and I was so pleased to see him playing great. Many of the solos that I saw him play, really blew me away and I felt really happy to see him performing this way again.

I like Clapton as a guitarist but he is not Rolling Stones material and never will be.

As long as Ronnie is sober enough to play well, I really don't care about the details of his private life and neither should anybody else.
I really dont understand why people are talking about Ronnie being replaced at all. Mick will make sure Ronnie is sober when it's time to go on tour and he will kick ass once again!

...this is a recording....

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 10, 2008 19:37

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T&A
Quote
vudicus
Ronnie playing was great on the last tour and I can't wait for the next one!!
He was the star of the show on many occasions and I was so pleased to see him playing great. Many of the solos that I saw him play, really blew me away and I felt really happy to see him performing this way again.

I like Clapton as a guitarist but he is not Rolling Stones material and never will be.

As long as Ronnie is sober enough to play well, I really don't care about the details of his private life and neither should anybody else.
I really dont understand why people are talking about Ronnie being replaced at all. Mick will make sure Ronnie is sober when it's time to go on tour and he will kick ass once again!

...this is a recording....

Ah, but this is the all new Remastered version! hot smiley

Re: Ekterina and Ronnie's sobriety
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 10, 2008 19:48

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vudicus
Quote
T&A
Quote
vudicus
Ronnie playing was great on the last tour and I can't wait for the next one!!
He was the star of the show on many occasions and I was so pleased to see him playing great. Many of the solos that I saw him play, really blew me away and I felt really happy to see him performing this way again.

I like Clapton as a guitarist but he is not Rolling Stones material and never will be.

As long as Ronnie is sober enough to play well, I really don't care about the details of his private life and neither should anybody else.
I really dont understand why people are talking about Ronnie being replaced at all. Mick will make sure Ronnie is sober when it's time to go on tour and he will kick ass once again!

...this is a recording....

Ah, but this is the all new Remastered version! hot smiley

perhaps, but no bonus comments, so i'll pass.....

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