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Heart of Stone
Posted by: filstan ()
Date: October 22, 2008 22:47

Just prior to the guitar solo, I think around 1:03-1:07 Mick says something in the background. Is it a key change call or is it Mick saying "Keith" to do the solo? Any other ideas?

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: October 22, 2008 23:09

IDK, but thanks for mentioning this oft-forgotten treasure.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: October 22, 2008 23:38

Awesome song. I loved the 2002 version.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Thommie ()
Date: October 23, 2008 11:12

I know I've read somewhere that the guitar solo (at the original from 1964) was played by Jimmy Page. Is that correct?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-10-23 11:18 by Thommie.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: October 23, 2008 11:15

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Thommie
I know I've read somewhere that the guitar solo (at the original from 1974) was played by Jimmy Page. Is that correct?

We all know the original is from 1979

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Thommie ()
Date: October 23, 2008 11:19

All right, Gimme, I've edited now.tongue sticking out smiley

Re: Heart of Stone
Date: October 23, 2008 16:03

Sounds like Keith to me

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: October 23, 2008 16:48

Great song, another 60s gem that doesn't get much live treatment but would be a crowd pleaser I think.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 23, 2008 17:01

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Thommie
I know I've read somewhere that the guitar solo (at the original from 1964) was played by Jimmy Page. Is that correct?

Not quite. Jimmy Page did perform the solo on the ALO Orchestra version though.

The Stones rendition features Keith on lead.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Thommie ()
Date: October 23, 2008 17:13

Thanks. That makes everything clear. Have to listen to the ALO version at home tonight.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: October 24, 2008 01:08

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gimme_shelter
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Thommie
I know I've read somewhere that the guitar solo (at the original from 1974) was played by Jimmy Page. Is that correct?

We all know the original is from 1979

confused smiley

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 24, 2008 01:31

i was impressed when I learned that Jagger/Richards wrote this song. It sounds like a soul cover.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: lunar!!! ()
Date: October 24, 2008 01:39

it was the undisputed highlight of a great show in oakland 2002---dying to hear it and got my wish.....really well done and IMO should have been a regular in the set...

STONES JAM!! MICKEYS RULES!!! (burp) NADER IN 2016!!!!! GO GIANTS!!

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: October 24, 2008 01:44

You should checkout the version of the The Allman Brothers.

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Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 24, 2008 01:47

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lunar!!!
it was the undisputed highlight of a great show in oakland 2002---dying to hear it and got my wish.....really well done and IMO should have been a regular in the set...


yes, I was there too. It was a highlight.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 24, 2008 10:05

The Jewels - Hearts Of Stone
Rudy Jackson/Edward Ray


Hearts made of stone will never break
’cause your love is never there they just don’t care
You can ask and plea, please.. please.. please work
And all your love is there to stay

These hearts of stone will cause you pain
Although you love there has stopped just the same
You can ask and plea, please, please, please work
And all your love is there to stay
But they’ll say no..no..no...no...no...no...
Your daddy knows I thought I knew hearts made of stone

Hearts made of stone will never break
’cause your love is never there, they just don’t care
You can ask and plea, please, please, please work
And all your love is there to stay
Cause they’ll say no..no..no...no...no...no...
Your daddy knows I thought I knew hearts made of stone

.......................................................

First cut in mid 1954 by the obsure vocal group The Jewels
for the tiny Hollywood R and B label....Soon after picked up and
turned into a number one hit in 1955 by The Charms on the DeLuxe label ...

Once rumoured to have been recorded by Elvis at one
of the Sun sessions but no evidence of this has ever surfaced.....
Although there is proof Presley did perform it live at least once on The Louisiana Hayride in 1955...



The Jewels



ROCKMAN

Re: Heart of Stone
Date: October 24, 2008 11:10

my favorite stones song ever

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: October 24, 2008 12:36




Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 24, 2008 13:13

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Big Al
Quote
Thommie
I know I've read somewhere that the guitar solo (at the original from 1964) was played by Jimmy Page. Is that correct?

Not quite. Jimmy Page did perform the solo on the ALO Orchestra version though.

The Stones rendition features Keith on lead.

And to add: the Stones version is the Now! version, while the Metamorphosis version is the Orchestra version (which has Jim Sullivan and Jimmy Page on guitar, John Paul Jones on bass, Clem Cattini on drums).

Mathijs

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: October 24, 2008 13:31

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Mathijs
...while the Metamorphosis version is the Orchestra version (which has Jim Sullivan and Jimmy Page on guitar, John Paul Jones on bass, Clem Cattini on drums).

Mathijs

And who's on backing vocals? Wasn't it 2 or 3 of The Hollies?

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: filstan ()
Date: October 25, 2008 00:31

So the question goes out again. What is brief Mick line just before the solo?

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: October 25, 2008 01:49

Keith admits to copying Page's lead break note for note on the all Stones version(so I hear) but who played the steel guitar break before Page did his lead on the Metamorphosis track?

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 25, 2008 04:48

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Rockman
[First cut in mid 1954 by the obsure vocal group The Jewels
for the tiny Hollywood R and B label....Soon after picked up and
turned into a number one hit in 1955 by The Charms on the DeLuxe label ...


quote]

Hey Rockman, I have this compilation a friend of mine made of Number One Hits and it has Hearts of Stone by the Fontaine Sisters as a number one hit 1955... Perhaps its a mistake, Some of the songs were downloaded and there can be bad info about songs when theyre downloaded.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-10-25 04:51 by ryanpow.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 25, 2008 05:14

Yeah ryan ... Fontaines also had a number one with it....
Has been covered by a few artists over the years...........



ROCKMAN

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: October 25, 2008 15:52

Hey,Rockman I just found a copy of The Charms 78 rpm in a stack of my moms old records!

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 25, 2008 17:23

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scottkeef
Keith admits to copying Page's lead break note for note on the all Stones version(so I hear) but who played the steel guitar break before Page did his lead on the Metamorphosis track?

That steel guitar actually is Big Jim Sullivan, whose style in those days was emmulating a steel guitar. There's several more tracks on Metamorphisis with what seems like steel guitar bends, but it's all Big Jim.

Mathijs

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 25, 2008 17:32

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Mathijs

That steel guitar actually is Big Jim Sullivan, whose style in those days was emmulating a steel guitar. There's several more tracks on Metamorphisis with what seems like steel guitar bends, but it's all Big Jim.

Mathijs

Big Jim Sullivan was a great guitarist and the no 1 before Page gradually took over.

I often wonder what other tracks on Metamorphisis feature the two of them. It'd be great to finally get some clarity on that.

I don't prefer Pages solo to Keith's on Heart Of Stones, but I love the sloppiness of the former. Most of Pages best solo's circa '64 and '65 were incredibly raw and messy - yet utterley brilliant.

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 25, 2008 22:40

I just found a copy of The Charms 78 rpm in a stack of my moms old records

Hey yeah scott ya mum has good tastes....great song...
And that ...no..no..no.no.no..no.....line will nail ya every time...



ROCKMAN

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: October 25, 2008 23:58

I thought you knew...... Doo da wha doo da wha da doo............!

Re: Heart of Stone
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 26, 2008 00:17

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scottkeef
Keith admits to copying Page's lead break note for note on the all Stones version(so I hear) but who played the steel guitar break before Page did his lead on the Metamorphosis track?

In that 2002 (?) version - thanks Sleepy City! - Keith decided not to copy Page note for note...grinning smiley

- Doxa

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