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While I don't condone anything Gary Glitter has done (apart from a few of his records!), there's no doubt that there's a big witch hunt against him from the media.

..and thats a bad thing?

Yes. For the simple reason that he's not being treated the same as everyone else who's done the same thing.

Its simply impractical to have news programmes and newspapers filled from beginning to end on a daily basis highlighting every case like this.

Concentrating on high profile cases however has a more important message - namely that there shouldnt be any hiding place for people like that.

he's a high profile sex case who put on this tearful, insincere horseshit when released from prison 9 years ago about how he wanted to put it all behind him and 'get on with living my life'.....'getting on with living his life' since then has meant exploiting pverty stricken children for sexual gratification in Cambodia, Thailand and other parts of the Far East.

He should be aware that someone of his status with the track record he has is going to attract media attention. If he doesnt keep his word that he's going to change his habits, then its pretty reasonable to expect the media to highlight that. He's no doubt used the media in the past for his OWN benefit, so he cant really complain when he screws up and it comes back to bite him in the ass.

The News of the World and Sun newspaper have been hounding Gary Glitter since the images were found on his hard drive.He claims in a recent interview with the BBC that the News of the World paid the victims to make up the story.It reminds me a bit of that same news paper setting up the Stones at Redlands....who was that mystery man aho arrived with the suitcase of drugs.Yeah a News of the World journalist,who later went onto tip off the Police.I am not saying I believe him.

I would not trust the News of the World as far as I could throw them.Neither would I trust Gary Glitter to be around children.

However he has served his punishment.He should be deported to tthe UK,and put on the Sex Register list and monitored by the authorites.But the press should leave him alone now.His passport should be confiscated.

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The News of the World and Sun newspaper have been hounding Gary Glitter since the images were found on his hard drive.He claims in a recent interview with the BBC that the News of the World paid the victims to make up the story.It reminds me a bit of that same news paper setting up the Stones at Redlands....who was that mystery man aho arrived with the suitcase of drugs.Yeah a News of the World journalist,who later went onto tip off the Police.I am not saying I believe him.

I would not trust the News of the World as far as I could throw them.Neither would I trust Gary Glitter to be around children.

However he has served his punishment.He should be deported to tthe UK,and put on the Sex Register list and monitored by the authorites.But the press should leave him alone now.His passport should be confiscated.

The press won't leave him alone. He's newsworthy. And neither will he be able to stay away from young kids, because he's a sick f-ck.

By the way, a friend of mine used to work at Dixons head office - which owns PC World, where Glitter took his PC in for repairs. He told me that after the images were discovered there was a board meeting to decide whether to report him to the police or not. It was a tight vote. Many board member were worried that business would suffer because people (for that read people with dodgy shite on their machines) would be afraid to bring their PCs in for servicing. True story.

the NOTW's motivation in the Stones case was somewhat different as a week earlier Jagger had announced he was suing them for (mistakenly/falsely) quoting him as admitting to drug use (they had actually been speaking to Brian). So, there was a separate motivation based on self-interest.

You cant really compare the two cases. The Stones WERE prosecuted because they did actually break the law (Mick's was later quashed I think as he bought his pills legally in Italy). The fact that they were set up by a 'plant' with some good dope doesnt override that. The main issue with that case that pissed people off was that the initial punishment given to them by the courts was incredibly harsh considering their offences were minor and harmed no one.

I'm not so sure that you'd get too many people arguing that both of Glitter's prison sentences were severe considering the severity of his crimes or that he should be left alone as, having served his punishment, he's of no risk to anyone (not that I'm implying you're suggesting the latter).

Apparently, he's even talked about resuming his musical career. Find that hard to believe - what promoter or record label would touch him? And he suposedly still makes £50,000 a year on royalties. Who the hell is still supporting his music?

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Tatters thats total bullshit and you know it. Not one ounce of fact just your opinion and your assumption of Townshends behaviour.

Half arsed student Phycology!

If you're a knowledeable Who fan, and you appear to be, then you KNOW that Pete was molested as a kid. He has said so publicly and also said that it was this experience that inspired Tommy. Not everyone who was molested as a kid grows up to be a child molester, but I think you'll find that most child molesters were molested themselves when they were kids.

And ask yourself this: Why would he care so much about fighting child porn and child sex abuse if it wasn't something that affected him in a deeply personal way? There was some very sad news the other day about the actress Christina Applegate having lost both her breats to cancer. Do you think it is more likely that she will become a "Let's Find A Cure For Breast Cancer" advocate or a "Let's Find A Cure For Heart Disease" advocate? People get involved in causes only if it's something that affects them PERSONALLY.

The difference between Pete and Gary Glitter is that Pete is a decent human being who is able to control his actions and keep from hurting innocent kids, while Gary Glitter, on the other hand, is a total scumbag.

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the NOTW's motivation in the Stones case was somewhat different as a week earlier Jagger had announced he was suing them for (mistakenly/falsely) quoting him as admitting to drug use (they had actually been speaking to Brian). So, there was a separate motivation based on self-interest.

You cant really compare the two cases. The Stones WERE prosecuted because they did actually break the law (Mick's was later quashed I think as he bought his pills legally in Italy). The fact that they were set up by a 'plant' with some good dope doesnt override that. The main issue with that case that pissed people off was that the initial punishment given to them by the courts was incredibly harsh considering their offences were minor and harmed no one.

I'm not so sure that you'd get too many people arguing that both of Glitter's prison sentences were severe considering the severity of his crimes or that he should be left alone as, having served his punishment, he's of no risk to anyone (not that I'm implying you're suggesting the latter).

Apparently, he's even talked about resuming his musical career. Find that hard to believe - what promoter or record label would touch him? And he suposedly still makes £50,000 a year on royalties. Who the hell is still supporting his music?

Good post.

I think that if people like his music, they'll get it. It's not about supporting him (Although I could imagine one of those pedo-rings buying up his music for support. Check the Belgium sales).

He could get a MySpace site with links to pay-by-play downloads. Someone would surely do it, if they like crap (Pederasts tend to like crap).

JumpingKentFlash

"then you KNOW that Pete was molested as a kid"

Actually he states that he 'might' have been molested as a small child by his crazy aunt who looked after him. But your earlier suggestion was that he shared a stage with Garry Glitter and 'swapped' links into the world of paedo. Which you must admit is totally wrong and hearsay on your part.

Townshend may have experienced molestation in his early youth that had AN affect to his latter work. He also used to campaign against child molestation. but that doesn't make him a predatory paedophile as in Glitters case.

And please, what ever GG has got up to, please no more music!

Personally I wonder why we are even discussing Gary Glitter on this board.

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"then you KNOW that Pete was molested as a kid"

Actually he states that he 'might' have been molested as a small child by his crazy aunt who looked after him. But your earlier suggestion was that he shared a stage with Garry Glitter and 'swapped' links into the world of paedo. Which you must admit is totally wrong and hearsay on your part.

Townshend may have experienced molestation in his early youth that had AN affect to his latter work. He also used to campaign against child molestation. but that doesn't make him a predatory paedophile as in Glitters case.

And please, what ever GG has got up to, please no more music!

Look, if you don't believe me, I've got Pete on the phone right now. He says he wants to "bite and kiss you". Also, he said something about wanting to "buy you leather"

LOL

and now for an interlude from the Department of Historical Accuracy ...

>> (Mick's was later quashed I think as he bought his pills legally in Italy). <<

actually the appeals court changed Mick's sentence to a conditional discharge, but the conviction was upheld.
(yeah the pills were legally purchased in Italy, but it was technically illegal to have them in the UK without a prescription.)
it was Keith's conviction that was quashed for lack of evidence.



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"Look, if you don't believe me, I've got Pete on the phone right now. He says he wants to "bite and kiss you". Also, he said something about wanting to "buy you leather"

LOL"

Cheap gag cause you know your wrong.

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Good post.

I think that if people like his music, they'll get it. It's not about supporting him (Although I could imagine one of those pedo-rings buying up his music for support. Check the Belgium sales).

He could get a MySpace site with links to pay-by-play downloads. Someone would surely do it, if they like crap (Pederasts tend to like crap).

I thought it was scatophiles who liked crap..oh, never mind....

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I thought it was scatophiles who liked crap..oh, never mind....

Scatophiles like crap? Damn it. Now I have to get some new business cards.

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I thought it was scatophiles who liked crap..oh, never mind....

Scatophiles like crap? Damn it. Now I have to get some new business cards.

I believe the proper term for people who like crap is "JustinTimerberlake-ophiles".

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I thought it was scatophiles who liked crap..oh, never mind....

Scatophiles like crap? Damn it. Now I have to get some new business cards.

I believe the proper term for people who like crap is "JustinTimerberlake-ophiles".

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

JumpingKentFlash

The image in my mind is of Gary Glitter burning in hell singing "HEY!" every four bars forever as the flames lick his body forever.




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LOL!!

That a Zonophone record on a Decca gramophone Circa 1920's....

Bring the bastard back and get hounded to an early(ish) grave.

Hey ablett, I'm surprised you haven't got it in that vinyl collection of yours!

I have! Over 700 other 78's n all.....

Oh and 16 gramophones to play them on......

He's on a plane headed for London this very minute, according to AP.
19 countries refused to let him enter.
Upon his arrival in the UK he'll be forced to sign the convicted sex criminal form. He'll have to inform the police of his whereabouts and if he plans to go abroad, he'll have to inform the police no less than 6 months ahead of his trip.

None of this will make him a better person, but I hope it will prevent him from molesting more children.

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He's on a plane headed for London this very minute, according to AP.
19 countries refused to let him enter.
Upon his arrival in the UK he'll be forced to sign the convicted sex criminal form. He'll have to inform the police of his whereabouts and if he plans to go abroad, he'll have to inform the police no less than 6 months ahead of his trip.

None of this will make him a better person, but I hope it will prevent him from molesting more children.

I bet he wishes he'd used the same lawyer as Michael Jackson...

Guess he didn't have the billions to pay for the army of lawyers who got wacko jacko off the hook...

Anyone know how he first got caught? PC claps out, takes it to PC World and the repair guy finds aload of kiddy porn on it. Bingo!

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Anyone know how he first got caught? PC claps out, takes it to PC World and the repair guy finds aload of kiddy porn on it. Bingo!

Indeed! What a dork. When he handed it in he apparently told them not to look at his files (DUH!).

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At the time, police were also investigating claims by a woman that he'd raped her as a teenager. She'd been one of his daughter's friends. He was tried for that (the judge threw the case out because the woman had cut a deal with the News of the World) at the same time as the kiddie porn.

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"Look, if you don't believe me, I've got Pete on the phone right now. He says he wants to "bite and kiss you". Also, he said something about wanting to "buy you leather"

LOL"

Cheap gag cause you know your wrong.

When the story about Pete first broke in Jan. 2003, many fans who KNOW the REAL Peter Townshend, myself included, rushed to the Internet to express our "Unconditional love and support" for him. If Pete were as innocent as you think he is, why would it have had to be unconditional? Unconditional means "absolute, without reservations". When we expressed our unconditional love and support, we weren't saying "Pete, if you say you didn't do it, then we believe you didn't do it". We were saying "Pete, we know you probably DID do it, but because the profoundly spiritual nature of your music has had such a beneficial impact on our lives and on the lives of millions of people, we believe that the good you've done far outweighs ANY wrongs you may have committed and that NO MATTER WHAT you've done, we love you and support you and pray for you".

Of course he SAID he didn't do it. Of course Roger SAID he believed him. It would have been the end of their career if they had said it was true.

That's all I'm going to say to you about this. Considering how you think I'm stupid and full of shit, I'm surprised I've said this much.



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But your post is total poppycock!

Townshend wasn't convicted of owning photo's of kids, not convicted of abusing kids, taking photo's of kids, seeking them half way round the world, he was cautioned over one incident whereby he accessed a Child Porn website. He didn't download anything. Have you ever read the thesis he did on the horrors of child abuse several years before the trouble started? No? thought so.

Thats fact.

Your statement is your opinion and your opinion only.

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I'm sorry I even started this damn thread. I was hoping for some good Euro humor not an in-depth discussion of pedophelia. Please close it BV.

(By the way, who the hell is Jonahan King?)

I take part of the blame Duane, I tried an attempt at some light-heartedness, mentioned Pete Townsend and the whole thread suddenly took a spin.

Gary you give rock music a bad name! You should be ashamed of yourself. You need help.