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I do agree that today's Gibson Hummingbirds
are truely great guitars. To be honest, I've never played
a bad Gibson acoustic. However, if you were to pick up a new
Hummingbird and play Angie, that "sound" won't be there.
It'll be closer Lady Jane. Someone pointed it out earlier
that it's down to recording techniques and compression.
The best sound I got recording an acoustic (a Guild, I believe) was having it mikedthrough a Neumann 47 (maybe it was a 48) and then run through
a Urie 1176 compressor. It made for a gorgeous sound.
Not your average home setup, though.
I also agree 100% with Mathijs' above post regarding
the current Stones. Compare his playing in '75 or '78 to, say, the last 20 years.
Which would you rather have?

Tomk thanks for this invaluable information. Now I know to go for the vintage Hummingbird, the same year build as the one Keith plays. It is a strange fetish of sorts but I just want to get as close to that sound as possible, thanks again.

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I do agree that today's Gibson Hummingbirds
are truely great guitars. To be honest, I've never played
a bad Gibson acoustic. However, if you were to pick up a new
Hummingbird and play Angie, that "sound" won't be there.
It'll be closer Lady Jane. Someone pointed it out earlier
that it's down to recording techniques and compression.
The best sound I got recording an acoustic (a Guild, I believe) was having it mikedthrough a Neumann 47 (maybe it was a 48) and then run through
a Urie 1176 compressor. It made for a gorgeous sound.
Not your average home setup, though.
I also agree 100% with Mathijs' above post regarding
the current Stones. Compare his playing in '75 or '78 to, say, the last 20 years.
Which would you rather have?

Tom
Tomk thanks for this invaluable information. Now I know to go for the vintage Hummingbird, the same year build as the one Keith plays. It is a strange fetish of sorts but I just want to get as close to that sound as possible, thanks again.

Don't get me wrong, the newer Hummingbirds are truely superb acoustics.
So don't count them out, they're really good.
Try a bunch out if possible, vintage and new.
As someone pointed out, you'll be close to that Angie sound, but not exact
as a lot of it is down to the recording process.
The Hummingbirds that I've played seemed to have more
of a Aftermath/Buttons/Flowers tone. Then again, that's just the ones I've played. I pretty fussy about my acoustics.
I'll have to play one for a long, long time before I like it or dislike it.
However, with electrics, I can usually tell if I like it or not'
within 30 seconds. But that's just me. Every player is different.

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tomk
I do agree that today's Gibson Hummingbirds
are truely great guitars. To be honest, I've never played
a bad Gibson acoustic. However, if you were to pick up a new
Hummingbird and play Angie, that "sound" won't be there.
It'll be closer Lady Jane. Someone pointed it out earlier
that it's down to recording techniques and compression.
The best sound I got recording an acoustic (a Guild, I believe) was having it mikedthrough a Neumann 47 (maybe it was a 48) and then run through
a Urie 1176 compressor. It made for a gorgeous sound.
Not your average home setup, though.
I also agree 100% with Mathijs' above post regarding
the current Stones. Compare his playing in '75 or '78 to, say, the last 20 years.
Which would you rather have?

Tom
Tomk thanks for this invaluable information. Now I know to go for the vintage Hummingbird, the same year build as the one Keith plays. It is a strange fetish of sorts but I just want to get as close to that sound as possible, thanks again.

Don't get me wrong, the newer Hummingbirds are truely superb acoustics.
So don't count them out, they're really good.
Try a bunch out if possible, vintage and new.
As someone pointed out, you'll be close to that Angie sound, but not exact
as a lot of it is down to the recording process.
The Hummingbirds that I've played seemed to have more
of a Aftermath/Buttons/Flowers tone. Then again, that's just the ones I've played. I pretty fussy about my acoustics.
I'll have to play one for a long, long time before I like it or dislike it.
However, with electrics, I can usually tell if I like it or not'
within 30 seconds. But that's just me. Every player is different.

Tomk I truly would love to try out vintage or new 'Birds' but I'm afraid that is not a feasible option. so my best bet to get as close to the Angie sound is to go and find the same 'Bird' and same building year. Mind you I am capable of paying for it I have my own business and this is my hobby so I deserve it, get my drift. My goal in the end is to start a Stones tribute band, I already have the name : 'The Rollin Homes'. best thing is to be able to make your own set list...