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Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: February 6, 2008 15:46

Who on earth's Abllet?

This is a stones board?

I'm sure progs the complete nemisis to everything jagger, richards, wood and watts stand for.

Led Zep. Obviously superb must 15 mins of Moby Dick! 2 hours of Communication Breakdown?? Not my cuppa thanks.

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: MTFan ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:23

Svartme:

I know what you mean,but don't get blinded by the speed,if the beat says 300 ticks a minute,and they want to play semiquavers,that's the freedom of a mucisian.And if you pla fast,you got less time to put feeling into a tone,but there comes something different instead.listen to the music along with cartoons of Tom&Jerry?
If you listen to the harmonic lines Mahavishnu plays,for example a-minor pentatonic over B flat maj 7,something interesting happens.
Your ears can get trained to hear these things,and speed is not the problem not to listen to this music,yes,it works addictive.
I do like Jimmy Page too,but I don't understand why it doesn't enter his mind
to dabble a bit more with these harmonic things.
What's the big deal repeating the same old boring licks for 40 years,like Clapton etc do without
improving themselves?Are they just lazy or do they think"Idont have to proove my self any more"wich would be arrogant to say the least?

By the way abblet or whatever:MTaylor is an admirer of John mc Laughlin,so there is a link, if you still can follow.

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:35

I wondered how long it would be till MT got a mention. And it's a very distant connection at that. I'm sure if he mentioned he liked Marks and Sparks Shepherd Pie's that would connect him to the stones n all.....

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: MTFan ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:42

Quote
ablett
I wondered how long it would be till MT got a mention. And it's a very distant connection at that. I'm sure if he mentioned he liked Marks and Sparks Shepherd Pie's that would connect him to the stones n all.....

MT was a vegetarian,I don't know if he still is.

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:50

Quorn Sherpherds Pie then?

;-)

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: Four Stone Walls ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:50

If 'Prog' is all about grandiose soloing - then the prize goes to Led Zep!
But there was much more to it than just that.

And as for the Style versus Substance theme. Very thread-topical.

1972 - Substance the victor over Style.

1975 - Style (costumes, gimmicks, theatrics) given prominence over Substance.

all part and parcel of the same the mid-seventies malaise syndrome - But ....

Hail, Hail, Punk Rock to the Rescue!


ablett - 'serious', with substance, is good. ("Tits and arse with ssssubstance, baby, she's my little prog/punk rocker")



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-06 16:51 by Four Stone Walls.

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 6, 2008 19:13

>> Mahavishnu <<

hark: another Stones connection - well almost! Jan Hammer played on She's the Boss.
(John McLaughlin is actually vocalizing more of those notes than he's playing -
that's why he always hunched way over like that.)

(that's not really true! i simply felt like saying it - just for a minute, though smoking smiley)

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: luxury man ()
Date: February 6, 2008 19:13

easily forgotten i must say...

Re: Gentle Giant,almost forgotten?
Posted by: MTFan ()
Date: February 6, 2008 19:56

Quote
with sssoul
>> Mahavishnu <<

hark: another Stones connection - well almost! Jan Hammer played on She's the Boss.
(John McLaughlin is actually vocalizing more of those notes than he's playing -
that's why he always hunched way over like that.)

(that's not really true! i simply felt like saying it - just for a minute, though smoking smiley)

One more connection:John mc Laghlin recorded with the RStones in the mid 60-tees

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