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Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: 1cdog ()
Date: January 13, 2008 16:54

OOOooooooo go on now........

Your pulling my leg......



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Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: January 13, 2008 17:46

No, sure. It's done by an old bunch of geezers called Led Zepp'lin' who
were one of the greatest bands around 1969-70.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: January 13, 2008 18:04

Heres a lil sumfin for all of ya who thought Led Zep were the
crown of rock creation around 1978:
Jethro @#$%&' Tull back in '78

... Locomotive Breath... Steamy or what?

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: January 13, 2008 19:17

Quote
it's_all_wrong
That's a dumb question to be asking on a Stones forum.


I sort of agree here. I don't think its' a "dumb" question but at the same time, asking this question on a Stones message board is bound to get some pretty biased answers.

It would be nice if we could really discuss and compare the two records, but most people (myself included) only stated which one they preferred.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: lmatth8461 ()
Date: January 13, 2008 20:39

Hmm, wonder what kind of answers wer're going to get to this question on a Stones forum?

Just out of interest, Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 albums lists Exile at number 7, and PG way down at number 70. Of course, it's just a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. BTW, sales figures were listed as follows:

Exile on Main St. 1 million
Physical Graffitti 15 million

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: La Mano Nera ()
Date: January 13, 2008 21:07

I always view the difference between the Stones and Zepellin as, Do you wanna BE cool, or do you wanna APPEAR to be cool?

I really can't listen to a Zepellin album like I do Exile.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Date: January 13, 2008 21:09

So you think that Exile only has sold one million copies??

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: January 13, 2008 21:10

Quote
lmatth8461
Hmm, wonder what kind of answers wer're going to get to this question on a Stones forum?

---- sales figures were listed as follows:

Exile on Main St. 1 million
Physical Graffitti 15 million

Besides the fact cow's crap ought to be the most delicate food
in the world with this logic; I'd like to add that PG often
- since at least the 80s - is to be seen at cheap sales boxes.
That might influence the figures a bit.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: The Stones ()
Date: January 13, 2008 22:16

Quote
it's_all_wrong
That's a dumb question to be asking on a Stones forum.

Agreed. Here on IORR the answer is of course Exile and on any Zeppelin forum the answer will be Physical Grafitti. Makes pretty much sense to me anyway.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: January 13, 2008 22:51

Being a double album, Physical Graffiti presented Led Zep with an opportunity for experimentation and diversity, and to some degree, it is reasonable to assert that by and large, they were quite successful in achieving this very objective.

Indeed, a month or so before the album was even released, NME had labelled it, Led Zep's very own Exile On Main Street, describing the album as having a much more diverse, easy-going, down-to-earth feel to it than anything else that they'd put out before.

Fair point.

Whether the album is any good however, is another point altogether, and it is around this quality control issue that I would personally cease to draw any comparisons with Exile On Main Street.

Patchy, badly recorded, drawn-out and repetitive, are just some of the adjectives that spring to mind when I think about Physical Graffiti, from a band who became past masters at turning simple three-chord ditties into keyboard-laden, pumped-up, overblown, pompous anthems, that drag on for the best part of a quarter of an hour (or longer). All four sides (of the vinyl edition) are patched up to the eyeballs with such drivel, and with the exception of Ten Years Gone, there is nothing remotely clever, groundbreaking or interesting enough on the album to justify a duration of anything more than three minutes.

For small mercies, we can be thankful for The Wanton Song, Bron Y Aur, In the Light and The Rover,but isn't it so typical of them to prefer the likes of No Quarter or Dazed And Confused when it comes to killing (literally) the best part of an hour in their live performances.

Compare it with Exile On Main Street? Please, please, not in the same breath.



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Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: January 14, 2008 00:25

Great Barn Owl has spoken. Now smoke Big Smoke.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: casinoboogie ()
Date: January 14, 2008 00:43

Quote
Barn Owl
Whether the album is any good however, is another point altogether, and it is around this quality control issue that I would personally cease to draw any comparisons with Exile On Main Street.

Patchy, badly recorded, drawn-out and repetitive, are just some of the adjectives that spring to mind when I think about Physical Graffiti, from a band who became past masters at turning simple three-chord ditties into keyboard-laden, pumped-up, overblown, pompous anthems, that drag on for the best part of a quarter of an hour (or longer). All four sides (of the vinyl edition) are patched up to the eyeballs with such drivel, and with the exception of Ten Years Gone, there is nothing remotely clever, groundbreaking or interesting enough on the album to justify a duration of anything more than three minutes.

For small mercies, we can be thankful for The Wanton Song, Bron Y Aur Stomp, In the Light and The Rover,but isn't it so typical of them to prefer the likes of No Quarter or Dazed And Confused when it comes to killing (literally) the best part of an hour in their live performances.

Compare it with Exile On Main street? Please, please, not in the same breath.

you're amazing

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: January 14, 2008 00:53

Not a fair question on a Stones Site. If I said PG or any Zep LP was far superior than any Stones LP, I'd be killed.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: it's_all_wrong ()
Date: January 14, 2008 06:27

Quote
Barn Owl
Being a double album, Physical Graffiti presented Led Zep with an opportunity for experimentation and diversity, and to some degree, it is reasonable to assert that by and large, they were quite successful in achieving this very objective.

Indeed, a month or so before the album was even released, NME had labelled it, Led Zep's very own Exile On Main Street, describing the album as having a much more diverse, easy-going, down-to-earth feel to it than anything else that they'd put out before.

Fair point.

Whether the album is any good however, is another point altogether, and it is around this quality control issue that I would personally cease to draw any comparisons with Exile On Main Street.

Patchy, badly recorded, drawn-out and repetitive, are just some of the adjectives that spring to mind when I think about Physical Graffiti, from a band who became past masters at turning simple three-chord ditties into keyboard-laden, pumped-up, overblown, pompous anthems, that drag on for the best part of a quarter of an hour (or longer). All four sides (of the vinyl edition) are patched up to the eyeballs with such drivel, and with the exception of Ten Years Gone, there is nothing remotely clever, groundbreaking or interesting enough on the album to justify a duration of anything more than three minutes.

For small mercies, we can be thankful for The Wanton Song, Bron Y Aur Stomp, In the Light and The Rover,but isn't it so typical of them to prefer the likes of No Quarter or Dazed And Confused when it comes to killing (literally) the best part of an hour in their live performances.

Compare it with Exile On Main street? Please, please, not in the same breath.


I know this is a Stones message board, but that is complete horseshit. Physical Graffiti was one of the best albums of the 70's by one of the best bands of the 20th century, and it ranks right up there with Exile, although I myself prefer Exile.

And In The Light is the weakest song on it.

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: January 14, 2008 06:41

Edith Grove wrote

> Does Ian Stewart appear on both?

I didn't know that.
(ps exile)

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: January 14, 2008 09:54

See ya at the other board (maybe), ITW!



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Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: casinoboogie ()
Date: January 14, 2008 10:20

personally i love 'In the Light'

haunting opening, shimmering vocals, an uplifting; gorgeous chorus and some lovely not too bombastic, tasteful lead guitar

and those drums!

smashing bit of experimenting

Re: Physical Grafitti or Exile On Main St?: Discuss
Posted by: Barn Owl ()
Date: January 14, 2008 13:58

Quote
it's_all_wrong
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I know this is a Stones message board, but that is complete horseshit. Physical Graffiti was one of the best albums of the 70's by one of the best bands of the 20th century, and it ranks right up there with Exile, although I myself prefer Exile.

And In The Light is the weakest song on it.

In which case, I can ssume you are of the opinion that:
a) It is well recorded.
b) It is not repetitive (despite the presence of Trampled Under Foot, In My Time of Dying, Kashmir and an untold number of "ooooh yeahs" throughout the entire album).
c) It is not overladen with prog-rock style keyboards.
d) It is not pompous and bombastic.
d) The songs are not over-long and drawn-out.

...and you accuse ME of talking horseshit!!

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