OK what the heck happened here?

JJF wembley

yes we know....i think it was fun

A fan 1971 Bristol 1971

>> it was fun <<

i love the looks on everyone's faces :E

that umm unusual start is the moment that Nick Kent described - in glorious detail -
as Keith flinging off his guitar, leaping onto the drum riser, directing the rhythm with his body,
then jumping off the riser and punching Woody in the face so hard he almost fell off stage.
same school of "journalism" as the twat who wrote about the Scream awards ceremony ...

The entire Wembley show has a terribly robotic drumming Watts. I don't know what he was on, but it was one of the worst nights for Charlie. With She's SC and JJF, and with many other numbers, Charlie enters the song with a break that ends somewhere in the middle, completely off beat. It takes a minute for the entire band to adjust to Charlie. It's a bit like Gimme SHelter from Perth, 1973. If Keith would have slapped anybody that night in Wembley, Charlie was the one who deserved it most.

Mathijs

Mathijs Wrote:
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> The entire Wembley show has a terribly robotic
> drumming Watts. I don't know what he was on, but
> it was one of the worst nights for Charlie. With
> She's SC and JJF, and with many other numbers,
> Charlie enters the song with a break that ends
> somewhere in the middle, completely off beat. It
> takes a minute for the entire band to adjust to
> Charlie. It's a bit like Gimme SHelter from Perth,
> 1973. If Keith would have slapped anybody that
> night in Wembley, Charlie was the one who deserved
> it most.
>
> Mathijs

I agree,look at his eyes to, he's way f'ed up on something,i listened to it without the sound just to check charlie out,he aint right that night.

Could be he's smiling at Keith? Same with Bill

>> Charlie enters the song with a break that ends somewhere in the middle,
completely off beat. It takes a minute for the entire band to adjust to Charlie <<

ohh thank you Mathijs! that's what i always thought too, but it's scary to say it out loud -
it goes against a Fundamental Belief of too many people :E

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> Charlie enters the song with a break that ends
> somewhere in the middle,
> completely off beat. It takes a minute for the
> entire band to adjust to Charlie <<
>
> ohh thank you Mathijs! that's what i always
> thought too, but it's scary to say it out loud -
> it goes against a Fundamental Belief of too many
> people :E

I know what you mean, it doesn't suit Charlie. I have no idea when the heroin problems of Charlie started, but the 1982 tour had some very, very bad Charlie shows, especially compared to the terrific 1981 tour (well, at least the second half of that tour). But on the '82 tour, Charlie sometimes really played like a robot, frantically beating the hi-hat with stiff arms. The entire '82 tour was a bit of a coked-up event, and also Charlie suffered from it on several shows.

Mathijs

So what you're saying is that Keith should have punched Charlie instead of 'thumping' poor old Woody?

it seems charlie may be on something from looking at this clip because he's just smiling, doen't seem concearned at all that the song is in danger of coming to a crashing halt!

Gazza Wrote:
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> So what you're saying is that Keith should have
> punched Charlie instead of 'thumping' poor old
> Woody?

No, I am saying that poor old Mick should start working on a solo album as his old band is one coked up, heroin addicted bunch of juvenile marrying millionairs!

Mathijs

Well he obviously thought the same as he signed a contract for one just a few months after that!

I did f..u..c..k up some days in my life too, so what !!! .... then they know how important you are ............

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Anyhow, they were great despite those misses, very raw, pure rock n roll. So many good boots from 81 but also 82.

Mathijs Wrote:
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> The entire Wembley show has a terribly robotic
> drumming Watts. I don't know what he was on, but
> it was one of the worst nights for Charlie. With
> She's SC and JJF, and with many other numbers,
> Charlie enters the song with a break that ends
> somewhere in the middle, completely off beat. It
> takes a minute for the entire band to adjust to
> Charlie. It's a bit like Gimme SHelter from Perth,
> 1973. If Keith would have slapped anybody that
> night in Wembley, Charlie was the one who deserved
> it most.
>
> Mathijs



Even the greatest have off days I suppose!

I remember when I saw them in Sweden in 1982 that something was strange with Charlie. The first 4-5 songs they had to turn down the bass drum in the mix, because it was so terrible out of sync. Obviously not one of his best tours.

looks like ronnie was at the bar before the show,lol

This was my 1st Stones show. I remember SSC and yes, it was Charlie's mistake,but I thought the rest of the show was great.

The sound was better at Leeds a month later though.

I don't remember over-loud drums only the magnificent bone -rattling guitar of the then,undisputed HUMAN RIFF supported by the awesome Bill Wyman's deep deep bass. You had to be there.......... to "feel it"

sc uk

>> Well he obviously thought the same as he signed a contract for one just a few months after that! <<

LoFL! whenever you're ready, Gazza ... :E
meanwhile: you bet Charlie - bless his face! - is entitled to screw up - just like a Rolling Stone :E
i only meant this umm special start to SSC seems to be nearly universally regarded as Keith's mistake,
simply because the notion that Charlie could screw up is so utterly alien to so many people.

i love the Rolling Stones - *exactly* the Rolling Stones :E



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I KNOW what YOU meant, my dear. I was replying to Mathijs' slightly cynical post.

i KNOW what you were replying to, Gazza honey -
just noting in passing that what you said is exactly what Mathijs meant

haha, thats one of the best stones @#$%& ups....
other ones?

I think the best @#$%& up is knebworth, lets spent the night together.
although i like that version very much.

more fun:

legendary kenny everet doing jagger:



- Doxa