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Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: September 20, 2007 02:54

I like the record, it sounds fantastic in comparison with IORR.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: September 20, 2007 02:59

This album is Elmo's heart.

"No Anchovies, Please"

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: September 20, 2007 03:01

I enjoy this album...listening to it right now...The Mickboy version, which has Slave following Cherry.


Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Sohoe ()
Date: September 20, 2007 03:10

I've always thought each and every song is were good, with one or two standout tracks, but it has taken me long time to appreciate it as an album.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: September 20, 2007 06:15

Black N Blue is about the groove. Dig it.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 20, 2007 07:03





ROCKMAN

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: soundcheck ()
Date: September 20, 2007 08:28

... i cant anaylsis it,,, i just know black and blue is never far from me, strange, cause no one would consider it 'there' best body of work,,, i like the place it puts me, theres a few real songs there, , i gravitate to there mid tempo stuff...
and once again, ill never forget seeing the billboard for the first time, and the roar it caused wayyyy back then...

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: nanker phelge ()
Date: September 20, 2007 10:12

I love it- especially hand of fate, memory motel and crazy mama

I think melody is the worst song on it!

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: pay pay ()
Date: September 20, 2007 10:26

I love Black and Blue. Even Cherry Oh. About a million years ago, when I was switching from vinyl to CD's, B&B was one of the first ones I bought.

Fave song is Hey Negrita.....Woody is great on that one.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 20, 2007 10:49





ROCKMAN

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: September 20, 2007 11:04

georgelicks Wrote:
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> I like the record, it sounds fantastic in
> comparison with IORR.

Yes and songs like IYCRM would have been even better with that new production but TWFN is produced just right I think. B&B was the last LP I bought cause it was so hard to find in the late 80s.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 20, 2007 11:10





ROCKMAN

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Glam Descendant ()
Date: September 20, 2007 11:22

Were they on Sanibel Island for any reason other than the cover photos? Always seemed odd to me that the whole band would make that trek for that sole purpose.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: pay pay ()
Date: September 20, 2007 12:30

This one, somehow, I feel isn't quite up to par.....

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:27

Glam Descendant Wrote:
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> Were they on Sanibel Island for any reason other
> than the cover photos? Always seemed odd to me
> that the whole band would make that trek for that
> sole purpose.

According to Rolling Stone at the time, they went there for the photos.

I always had the feeling that they put more effort into the cover than the they did the music on that one.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:45

Imo most stones sleeves are horrible.........

But this sleeve is just great! It is in the tradition of the early decca / london albumcovers with just the boys of the band on it.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:48

and the music.....well, sounded very uninspired to me at the time in spring of '76.....but 31 years later this album really sounds nice...so much better then ABB or Bridges

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: My Stones ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:49

ablett Wrote:
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> All i can say is thank god for 'Some Girls'......
>
> Roppy old album!


Always thought that Some Girls is one of their worst. Never did like songs without great intros. Beast Of Burden is a great song though. To bad the rest of it is just terrible. Give me A Bigger Bang anyday.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Brown Leaves ()
Date: September 20, 2007 17:07



Who's that girl?

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: September 20, 2007 17:13

I've got you under my... legs but she can't take any advantage, hum... tie you up.. the pain of love..

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 20, 2007 18:13

Black & Blue is one of the Stones album which means little too me. I own it, like some of the tunes and may even play it once a year, but I'm just not attached to it in anyway.

It's not from an era that particulary interests me to be honest. I was a Brian era fan initially, then learned to love the Taylor years and truthfully, am far more interested in their 89-present activities and tours than what they were churning out in the mid-late 1970's.

Fantastic cover though. Jaggers lips!

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 20, 2007 18:57

Brown Leaves Wrote:
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> [jahsonic.com]
>
> Who's that girl?


Hopefully its "Mystones" after reading that scathing review of Some Girls winking smiley

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Monkeylad ()
Date: September 20, 2007 19:49

What would have happened if the woman in bondage depicted in the ad for Black & Blue (with a tagline something along the lines of "I'm black and blue from the Rolling Stones and I love it") had been featured on the cover of the album?

Maybe the album would have become an icon of the band's nastiness, and that would have given it more attention.

Beffars, Let It Bleed, Sticky, Exile, Goats and IORR all have songs with lyrics that some found scandalous. By those standards, Black and Blue was a little tame. And with Some Girls, the Stones got people like Jesse Jackson upset with the lyrics of that album's title track.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: September 20, 2007 20:27

Well no one made a big deal about "Hey, Negrita." They could have easily done so as they did with "Brown Sugar." Also a line like "I'm gonna cut your balls, boy" could have generated controversy if anyone noticed, but they didn't. Ditto "Short and Curlies" on IORR. Hell, "Melody" could have come under fire as much as "Crazy Mama" and "Hand of Fate." Its actually quite a violent album, but the music doesn't seem dark at all in spite of the lyrics. I like the album and always have. I also find it easier to accept its shortcomings knowing what was around the corner and that there wouldn't be a seven year wait between albums like we had between BRIDGES and A BIGGER BANG.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Turd On The Run ()
Date: September 20, 2007 20:47

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> ...inside photo SNC? Some kind of designer
> bellbottoms , Hugh Hefner playboy mansion COKE
> storage jackets straight out of STUDIO 54 - Rather
> forget me boy.... plus (you know this) the oldest,
> chessiest trick in still photography, time -lapse,
> well, maybe not as bad as the soft focus filters
> Bobby Guch was using on his Penthouse models in
> the 70's..... but close, VERY CLOSE.... BTW, see
> the new - da da - 21.1 megapixel Canon DSLR for
> $7999.00? Blows everything else OUT OF THE WATER
> (check Calumet Photo).... effing MIND BLOWER me
> photog friend !!!! This is SERIOUS EQUIPMENT, NASA
> stuff - lol.......

Actually the cover to Black And Blue is a cop out...there's a MUCH tougher cover shot of the boys...I'm looking all over for it and I can't find it...where they are in the same positions but they look so much more DUSTED and WASTED...and really awesome. Jagger looks completely fried in it...wonderful. I don't know why they chose this vanilla version.

Perhaps the great Rockman can find the 'alternate' cover. I remember seeing it several times and wondering to myself why the hell they went with the other one. Let's see if someone comes up with the alternate and you'll know what I mean...

BTW...I have the Canon 5D and the Nikon D200 and I'm blown away by what Helter writes regarding the new Canon...it sounds like a monster...

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 21, 2007 01:28

perhaps Rockman can find the 'alternate' cover......

Hey yeah Turd On Da Run...( geez man that's a mean name ta type )...
Know that different "wasted" shot ya talking of but where is it...What book where????



ROCKMAN

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: September 21, 2007 01:38

Rockman, I think I've got that scan, stolen from you.


stolen from Rockman

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 21, 2007 01:45

Yeah there ya go.......Fanks Erik...



ROCKMAN

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: Turd On The Run ()
Date: September 21, 2007 16:41

YES! Excellent Erik_Snow...thanks a bunch! That's the one!

This picture should have been the cover to Black And Blue.

Look at that image...isn't that MUCH more effective and evocative in expressing what the Stones were all about circa 1976? THAT'S our favorite rock band...the boys in a Rock Hero haze. The original vanilla cover is so tame in comparison. It pales.

Re: Black and blue sleeve
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: September 21, 2007 16:46

this picture is reversed if you look at Keith's shirt

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