in the recent Mojo article, Keith said he was taking Dilantin (an anti-siezure medcation) in the aftermath of his head operation.

These are the side effects of Dilantin - which are made worse if combined with alcohol.....

What are the possible side effects of Dilantin?
Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:
swollen glands;

fever, sore throat, and headache with a severe blistering, peeling, and red skin rash;

confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior;

slurred speech, loss of balance or coordination;

restless muscle movements in your eyes, tongue, jaw, or neck;

tremor (uncontrolled shaking);

extreme thirst or hunger, urinating more than usual;

nausea, stomach pain, low fever, loss of appetite, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);

easy bruising or bleeding;

swollen or tender gums; or

changes in the shape of your face or lips.

Less serious side effects may be more likely to occur, such as:

mild skin rash or itching;

dizziness, nervousness, sleep problems (insomnia);

twitching;

nausea, vomiting, constipation;

headache; or

joint pain.

Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is especially bothersome.

Still doesnt explain the fact that less than 3 months after the accident, Keith managed to go through a 19 date European tour without any noticeable problems.

It was only really when the American tour that followed it began, that fans started making alarming comments on his condition, although the consensus was that after a few weeks he pulled himself together.

Well, I think that Keith is just exhausted after 2 years on tour. Considering his age...As a big fan of Keith I can only hope that some time off (longer than just a few months between tour-leggs) will help him and that we will all have another chance to see him in "full strength." Well, I only saw him once this year - in Brno - and I think it was one of his better conerts this year, but he was not himself really. Okay, let's hope for the best

he hasnt been two years on tour. He had 6 months off after the American leg.

Understandable that LAST year's schedule and his accident had an effect on him THEN, though.

We can only at best make educated guesses. Prognosticating about Keith's potential medical conditions doesn't really serve any purpose and it isn't any body's business but his.
That said, if much of his erratic performance level in recent times has been due to drinking...he is out of order.
We all know Keith likes a drink and has performed down the years under the influence of most chemicals known to man.
Keith has always described himself as a "functioning addict"...and it's been hard to argue with that.
He may or may not [clinically] be an alcoholic...but alcoholics are not necessarily drunks ! They need alcohol to maintain normality...they don't have to get falling down drunk. If Keith finds that, for whatever age related or medical reason, he's can't hold his drink so well [and isn't such a functional addict !] he should cut it back a bit.
The fact that many of his most recent performances have been much better than some the scarier ones may just indicate that the folks accusing him of being too drunk on occasion might have a point...and it's something he can do something about if he chooses.
If there are medical issues beyond his control, then that's a different matter and the criticism is then unjustified.
But it's sometimes very hard not to get cross with the old bastard ;^)



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even at the stones' advanced age, i can't for the life of me believe this tour is wearing anyone out. 2 shows per week with a lot of kick-back time in between? that sounds like the retired life to me....

Well when your 65 give it a go?

way past that point already

sounds like it.....

ablett Wrote:
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> sounds like it.....


Says the man who could moan for his country in the Olympics

Keith is just invincable...
thats that.

[[FEAR; BUILDS WALLS.]]

I think they list the same set of symptoms on birth control pills.

CindyC Wrote:
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> I think they list the same set of symptoms on
> birth control pills.


Great, Keith is on the pill now.

MsTuesday Wrote:
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> Keith is just invincible...
> thats that.


I think that's the issue that many folks are struggling with.
It's the first realisation that old KR may not be quite so indestructible as we've enjoyed half believing for all these years.
In another thread some folks have suggested that maybe Keith believes just a little bit too much in his own legend too.
We know that Keith isn't really the same person that his image projects...but he maybe takes method acting to new levels ;^).

And then again...maybe he is indestructible...and the fact that he's still providing many glimpses of the old magic is the biggest miracle of all.

So many ways to slice it, don'y know what to believe.

I love the Stones, but have been critical at times too.


I just wish the man and his family well, in my prayers tonight.

Spud Wrote:
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> MsTuesday Wrote:
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> It's the first realisation that old KR may not be
> quite so indestructible as we've enjoyed half
> believing for all these years.

theres only one oldkr around here!!!!

Keith is doin OK, he's not dying at any quicker rate than usual. He's on a host of meds so listing the side effects of one isnt that helpful. He doesnt drink ALL that much anymore, and his weed use is mostly medicinal. As for his shabby playing - it seems to be cyclical it will pass.

OLDKR

I've got another theory. Maybe like Chuck,he's just bored of playing the same old crap every night. Try giving him a challenge and mix up the setlist and maybe that'll keep him interested in playing well................Or not.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

"Keith is doin OK, he's not dying at any quicker rate than usual. He's on a host of meds so listing the side effects of one isnt that helpful. He doesnt drink ALL that much anymore, and his weed use is mostly medicinal. As for his shabby playing - it seems to be cyclical it will pass. "



I don't disagree with any of that...
I'm just commenting on what's motivating folks to worry about him and to search for explanations for what they perceive.
As far as I'm concerned Keith is Keith...and will be for a good while yet ;^)



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CindyC Wrote:
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> I think they list the same set of symptoms on
> birth control pills.


Are you suggesting that Keith is on birth control pills?
Man, that guy must have taken everything....

he's bored too for sure- they must be!

OLDKR

Spud Wrote:
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> We know that Keith isn't really the same person
> that his image projects...but he maybe takes
> method acting to new levels ;^).
>

rotfl - I nearly spewed my beer on the screen

donnywas Wrote:
Are you suggesting that Keith is on birth control pills?
> Man, that guy must have taken everything....


Now that you say that... I have a vague memory of reading that he and his schoolboy friends used to take women's period medicine for a buzz.

Don't remember where I read that though - with sssoul or Rockman will probably remember.

Maybe he needs the medicine now but did not need it back then. If it was just over use of alcohol would the band continue to allow itself to be embarrassed based upon that? Makes sense to me that such medication could be a cause of the inconsitencies reported, and might explain why no one in the band makes an issue.

Go Keith!

I think the period pills story was from the Barbara Charone book.

thanks Juan - nothing pleases me more than have someone confirm that these stories exist and aren't just figments of my imagination.

No doubt the joint pain is the one that hurts the worst.

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cirrhosis Wrote:

Now that you mention it, I have slept with a lot of women who were exhibiting many of those symptoms.


You slept with women while they were exhibiting clay colored stools. Ya sick bastid.

CindyC Wrote:
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> donnywas Wrote:
> Are you suggesting that Keith is on birth control
> pills?
> > Man, that guy must have taken everything....
>
>
> Now that you say that... I have a vague memory
> of reading that he and his schoolboy friends used
> to take women's period medicine for a buzz.
>
> Don't remember where I read that though - with
> sssoul or Rockman will probably remember.


Damn right, now that you say it. I've read it in Charone's book as well, but of course I was only kidding anyway earlier on ;-)

And apart from that, I sincerely hope, that none of the women I know, who take the pill, will ever have any of these side effects... or all, at once ... :-)

Oh God Donny, that would be SCARY! HAHAHA