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Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: August 2, 2007 11:26

I have experience with this stuff myself and lots of musicians I know too, and so I know ,
even for an ex-user it´s not easy to get started if you have a time schedule like the Stones still have when they are on tour.

Someone´s got a clue about this, maybe someone who met Keith during the last 5 years?

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: fiftyamp ()
Date: August 2, 2007 11:31

no more blow

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: August 2, 2007 11:46

I think so but not like in the 80s and 70s.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Nelson ()
Date: August 2, 2007 12:01

I think-he has benn a hardcore junkie for so long,that he and everybody(almost) in the same situation needs "Someting" what i dont know. Iam talking from my own experiens.I dont think its alkohol,not that much anyway,dont think he cant stand it. Cocaine? I think it pills. It use to ended with that. But still,only Keit knows.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Barrence W ()
Date: August 2, 2007 12:18

There's an interview with Keith in this month's Mojo magazine in the UK. He claims he hasn't done coke since the accident.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Adrian-L ()
Date: August 2, 2007 12:26

in Mojo- he claims he can no longer do Coke, due to the medication he's on for his head.
He says, he now enjoys just the weed

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: donnywas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 12:45

Adrian-L Wrote:
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> in Mojo- he claims he can no longer do Coke, due
> to the medication he's on for his head.
> He says, he now enjoys just the weed


That does make sense too. IMHO Keith's recent "dropouts" aren't due to alcohol or drug abuse, but simply due to medication for his head.
That accident really cut him back health-wise more than the 30+ years of drug abuse preceding it...

Marc Ford (ex-Black Crowes guitarist) stated in an interview (recent issue of a guitar magazine) that when the Black Crowes opened for the Stones in 1995 (Voodoo Lounge Europe), Keith and Ronnie were sitting backstage with "huge piles" of cocaine and were partying "'til eight in the morning"....

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: tat2you ()
Date: August 2, 2007 12:56

Kieth Richards?? drugs c'mon??

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: mofur ()
Date: August 2, 2007 13:13

donnywas Wrote:
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> Adrian-L Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in Mojo- he claims he can no longer do Coke,
> due
> > to the medication he's on for his head.
> > He says, he now enjoys just the weed
>
>
> That does make sense too. IMHO Keith's recent
> "dropouts" aren't due to alcohol or drug abuse,
> but simply due to medication for his head.
> That accident really cut him back health-wise more
> than the 30+ years of drug abuse preceding it...
>

That makes a lot of sense. They should probably have cancelled the remainder of the tour in 2006 and given him proper time to rest up. I've heard about a few of these "open-skull-surgery" and they are not for kids alone at home!

There is a very high risk that it has maybe affected his balance nerve causing him to stumble about a bit.

And to add to the problems - maybe Keef hasn't learned quite yet how to handle this new situation - how much drink, dope and weed he can take, so he sometimes "overmedicates" himself.

But it's all guesswork and he'll probably outlive us all ;-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-02 13:16 by mofur.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: August 2, 2007 14:10

> Marc Ford (ex-Black Crowes guitarist) stated in an
> interview (recent issue of a guitar magazine) that
> when the Black Crowes opened for the Stones in
> 1995 (Voodoo Lounge Europe), Keith and Ronnie were
> sitting backstage with "huge piles" of cocaine and
> were partying "'til eight in the morning"....


What about B2B and Licks? Voodoo Lounge must´ve been hard, I´d like to think you can see it in the footage, too. But B2B was definetely a "drug tour" IMHO...

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Nelson ()
Date: August 2, 2007 14:40

tat2you Wrote:
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> Kieth Richards?? drugs c'mon??

NO 1 Today. Ha ha

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: donnywas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 15:03

KingBee Wrote:
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> > Marc Ford (ex-Black Crowes guitarist) stated in
> an
> > interview (recent issue of a guitar magazine)
> that
> > when the Black Crowes opened for the Stones in
> > 1995 (Voodoo Lounge Europe), Keith and Ronnie
> were
> > sitting backstage with "huge piles" of cocaine
> and
> > were partying "'til eight in the morning"....
>
>
> What about B2B and Licks? Voodoo Lounge must´ve
> been hard, I´d like to think you can see it in the
> footage, too. But B2B was definetely a "drug tour"
> IMHO...


You never know. There's a lot of speculation in that field, but Keith said in an interview, that he had taken heroin in Oklahoma City 1997 on the B2B tour. He said he did it "to test himself once in a while to see how his body reacts"....

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: heinz_str ()
Date: August 2, 2007 15:43

Posted by: donnywas (IP Logged)
Date: August

<<<<<<There's a lot of speculation in that field, but Keith said in an interview, that he had taken heroin in Oklahoma City 1997 on the B2B tour. He said he did it "to test himself once in a while to see how his body reacts"....<<<<<<<<<<<<

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keith tells alot.
don`t beleave it all.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: August 2, 2007 15:47

The blurring of my vision
The sweat upon my face
I've got to put this stuff away
I mustn't leave a trace
The landlord's breathing down my neck
He says it's disgrace
So I said "Put it in a cool dry place"

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: donnywas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:00

heinz_str Wrote:
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> Posted by: donnywas (IP Logged)
> Date: August
>
> <<<<<<There's a lot of speculation in that field,
> but Keith said in an interview, that he had taken
> heroin in Oklahoma City 1997 on the B2B tour. He
> said he did it "to test himself once in a while to
> see how his body reacts"....<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -------------------
>
> keith tells alot.
> don`t beleave it all.


See, that's why I always put the quotes in quotation marks. I'm not telling you what I believe or don't believe, I'm just quoting what Keith said in an interview. Keith's reputation builds a lot on what people believe or tend to believe.
That's why I'm quoting, not believing....

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Adrian-L ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:07

heinz_str Wrote:
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>>
> keith tells alot.
> don`t beleave it all.


and thats going to be the problem with his book.
you're just not going to be able to believe, most of what he says.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: donnywas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:15

Adrian-L Wrote:
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> heinz_str Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >>
> > keith tells alot.
> > don`t beleave it all.
>
>
> and thats going to be the problem with his book.
> you're just not going to be able to believe, most
> of what he says.


But that is just because he can't remember it anymore... :-)

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:21

KingBee Wrote:
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> > Marc Ford (ex-Black Crowes guitarist) stated in
> an
> > interview (recent issue of a guitar magazine)
> that
> > when the Black Crowes opened for the Stones in
> > 1995 (Voodoo Lounge Europe), Keith and Ronnie
> were
> > sitting backstage with "huge piles" of cocaine
> and
> > were partying "'til eight in the morning"....
>
>
> What about B2B and Licks? Voodoo Lounge must´ve
> been hard, I´d like to think you can see it in the
> footage, too. But B2B was definetely a "drug tour"
> IMHO...


He was also on heroin on BtB. Maybe he does H again. I think it's a little blow but mostly pills, maybe downers. He can do H and get away with it. Point is he doesnt seem very well this year. Probably the injury?

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:24

donnywas Wrote:
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> Adrian-L Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > heinz_str Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >>
> > > keith tells alot.
> > > don`t beleave it all.
> >
> >
> > and thats going to be the problem with his
> book.
> > you're just not going to be able to believe,
> most
> > of what he says.
>
>
> But that is just because he can't remember it
> anymore... :-)


But this is the problem at all:

I guess, the funniest and most interesting stories about KEEF can only be told by people who were very close and who are serious (unlike Tony Sanchez!)
The best moments in the Stones - Keith can´t remember!! You bet!

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: heinz_str ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:25

LA FORUM (IP Logged)
Date: August 2, 2007 16:21

KingBee Wrote:
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<He was also on heroin on BtB. Maybe he does H again.
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are you sure la forum, and when, what is your spring??

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: DCChris ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:25

booze & pills & powders!
I was with them in LA and I know!

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:26

heinz_str Wrote:
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> LA FORUM (IP Logged)
> Date: August 2, 2007 16:21
>
> KingBee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<He was also on heroin on BtB. Maybe
> he does H again.
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------------
>
> are you sure la forum, and when, what is your
> spring??


I have no idea, pure speculation except he said he "dabbled" with H in 1997

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:27

DCChris Wrote:
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> booze & pills & powders!
> I was with them in LA and I know!


When and where in LA? Can you get a little more precise, DCChris?

CHeers

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: heinz_str ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:33

pure speculation,
sometimes i think he`s clean since a long time, and he`s only working on his own history of freaky drug stone.

don´t know!!

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: Adrian-L ()
Date: August 2, 2007 16:59

heinz_str Wrote:
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he`s only working on his own history of freaky
> drug stone.

Good for book sales

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Date: August 2, 2007 17:05

thats a tough call..when i saw those pictures of ron and keith in their hotel balcony in japan it sure looked like they still party.... and if they are drinking alcohol and smoking cigs and joints its not much of a step to a line of coke....one you are in party mode- and i can say this from experience- it requires a lot of self control to stop yourself....i know i start out thinking i will absolutely not have a cigarette and after a few beers but that goes out the window..... definetly in those japan pictures there was a twinkle in their eyes...

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: heinz_str ()
Date: August 2, 2007 17:08

yes adrian
it`s business
it`to become a hero??? don`t know(beleave)
i ask me, if it`s possible, that a man can use hard drugs for 45 years or more and is able to do such a long tour.
when other people will be 2 x dead.

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: August 2, 2007 17:17

stoned in washington dc Wrote:
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> thats a tough call..when i saw those pictures of
> ron and keith in their hotel balcony in japan it
> sure looked like they still party.... and if they
> are drinking alcohol and smoking cigs and joints
> its not much of a step to a line of coke....one
> you are in party mode- and i can say this from
> experience- it requires a lot of self control to
> stop yourself....i know i start out thinking i
> will absolutely not have a cigarette and after a
> few beers but that goes out the window.....
> definetly in those japan pictures there was a
> twinkle in their eyes...

Where do I find these pics? It´s not the St Petersburg balcony posted today, is it?

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: donnywas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 18:19

heinz_str Wrote:
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> yes adrian
> it`s business
> it`to become a hero??? don`t know(beleave)
> i ask me, if it`s possible, that a man can use
> hard drugs for 45 years or more and is able to do
> such a long tour.
> when other people will be 2 x dead.

Take it or (be)leave it :-)

Re: Is Keith still doing cocaine on tour?
Posted by: heinz_str ()
Date: August 2, 2007 18:33

you think it plain, donnywas

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