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Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 17:30

Just for the sake of something new, should the Stones ever do a Grateful Dead type jam where they play one song ending with a jam that evolves into another song? If so, what two songs would fit together well?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-03-19 17:58 by keithfan64.

Re: Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: reg thorpe ()
Date: March 19, 2007 17:33

Nope...not the Stones style;

Re: Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: March 19, 2007 17:34

*IF* they ever did that...then they and only them could be better then The Grateful Dead live.

*BUT* as I said here too many times, The Grateful Dead PLAY music, The Rolling Stones perform it.

I really wish someone on the inside would suggest this to them, if it hasn't been suggested before.



OH, on a side note....the biggest mistake the younger bands make, is trying to make every song a jam song...they don't relize that not EVERY song lends itself to be jammed out.


Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: goinhome ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:09

I think that If You Can't Rock Me -> Get Off my Cloud from Love You Live is the closest they ever came to doing that. Hardly an exploratory jam, however...

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:15

No

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: teleblaster ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:22

Definately not

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:30

Remember the Stones were the first band to jam, on Goin' Home. Maybe the Dead got the idea from them. Also, Can't You Hear Me Knockin' ended with an extended jam that Ronnie plays very well.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: JaggerFan ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:32

keithfan64 Wrote:
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> Remember the Stones were the first band to jam, on
> Goin' Home. Maybe the Dead got the idea from them.

Please, for the love of God, music, and your own sake, learn some rock history and expand your knowledge a tad.

...on a side note - the Dead were musicians first. The Stones have never showed the skill to pull off anything like what the Dead did, or what the Allmans do for that matter. They are a show/performing group - not a cerebral experience. The only Stone who could keep up with such artists left 32 years ago.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-03-19 18:42 by JaggerFan.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:49

JaggerFan Wrote:
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> keithfan64 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Remember the Stones were the first band to jam,
> on
> > Goin' Home. Maybe the Dead got the idea from
> them.
>
> Please, for the love of God, music, and your own
> sake, learn some rock history and expand your
> knowledge a tad.
>
> ...on a side note - the Dead were musicians first.
> The Stones have never showed the skill to pull off
> anything like what the Dead did, or what the
> Allmans do for that matter. They are a
> show/performing group - not a cerebral experience.
> The only Stone who could keep up with such artists
> left 32 years ago.



Do you mean this guy playing with this band?

[www.youtube.com]


Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:54

Maybe a doggy style jam.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: JaggerFan ()
Date: March 19, 2007 18:55

> Do you mean this guy playing with this band?
>
> [www.youtube.com]
> aylor%2Bgrateful+dead&search=Search


The very one.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:02

Jaggerfan, please name a rock band that jamed on record before Goin' Home. And please stop insulting me. I saw Elvis in '57 when I was ten. I was one of Duane Allman's best friends. I think I know my rock history at least as well as you, probably better.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:04

kf64, just went by Duane and Berry's graves while in Macon (I live about an hour from there). Two great talents who are greatly missed - young Trucks is a good 'un though!

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:07

Keith starting with "Dire Wolf"

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:07

Elmo, I've been there too. Its a beautiful place. No wonder they used to go there to write songs.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Lukester ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:08

jeez...what an arrogant comment, jaggerfan....you're pretty full of yourself aren't you?

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:09

The Sicilian Wrote:
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> Keith starting with "Dire Wolf"

What song would Mick do next? Corrina or Looks Like Rain?? LOL


Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:16

"Not Fade Away" seems like a good fit.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Lukester ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:21

or Around and Around?

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: goinhome ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:29

Dark Star ->
Love Is Strong ->
Dark Star ->
Can You Hear Me Knockin' ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Last Time ->
Stella Blue ->
Jumping Jack Flash ->
Not Fade Away

E: Satisfaction

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:33

I assume your being facious but I would love to hear Mick sing Stella Blue.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: goinhome ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:35

The Dead & The Stones are my 2 favorite bands... I was just imagining out loud...

Totally off topic, but Willie Nelson does a cool Stella Blue on his last album with Ryan Adams.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:43

Deffenitly going to check Willie's version out. Thanks.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: rbarnes00 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 19:58

It is an interesting proposal. I wish that the Stones would do more of what just comes naturally, like the Dead did, for better or for worse. Instead of beating the war horses night after night, the Stones could just play their songs and whatever comes to mind. That was part of the enjoyment of the Dead shows, that you never knew what to expect. But you can always have a general idea of what the Stones are going to play.

I don't know, however, if the Stones could lead from one song to another. The songs that they do perform don't lend themselves to that; the Dead had Garcia and lots of other talented musicians that led the music in different directions. Jagger seems to lead the Stones; it would be difficult to "vocally" lead a band into another song. I don't think that the Stones' material lends itself to that style of performance. It would be cool to see/hear, though.

I sometimes go for periods where I listen to much more of the Dead than the Stones. When I go back and listen to the Stones, I always wish that they would extend what they do. But it's always tight and to the point.

I think Dylan may be a happy medium: he does various versions of his and other tunes and works in fairly extended solos.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: March 19, 2007 20:06

Also a big Dead fan. While I don't think the Stones should blend their songs together in that jam-styled fashion the Dead do, the Stones should definitely take a lesson from the Dead when it comes to playing more songs from their catelog.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: keithfan64 ()
Date: March 19, 2007 22:49

I agree, it was a dumb idea. Although the Stones do jam, they're not a jam band. As far as them doing lesser known songs, while there's nothing I'd rather hear than Blue Turns To Grey, Out Of Time, You Better Move On and a dozen others, we have to realize that every time they play, most of the audience has never seen them before and is not nearly as familiar with their catalog as a Grateful Dead crowd was. They would be dissapointed if they missed any major hits. The Stones are now in the same possision as the Beach Boys were, playing for the general public rather than their hard core fans.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: spikey ()
Date: March 19, 2007 23:15

Turn it around. Would you like to have seen the Dead NOT jam, and just do straight versions of their songs as they appeared on the studio albums?

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Forty Niks ()
Date: March 19, 2007 23:16

"dead" would definitely be the word for it - the stones just aren't that kind of band! (and thank god for that, by the way!)

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: chrismusic ()
Date: March 19, 2007 23:40

I love the If you cant rock me into Get off my cloud & the '81 Just my imagination jam from Hampton.

Re: Should Stones Do a Dead Style Jam?
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: March 19, 2007 23:51

rbarnes00 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It is an interesting proposal. I wish that the
> Stones would do more of what just comes naturally,
> like the Dead did, for better or for worse.
> Instead of beating the war horses night after
> night, the Stones could just play their songs and
> whatever comes to mind. That was part of the
> enjoyment of the Dead shows, that you never knew
> what to expect. But you can always have a general
> idea of what the Stones are going to play.
>
> I don't know, however, if the Stones could lead
> from one song to another. The songs that they do
> perform don't lend themselves to that; the Dead
> had Garcia and lots of other talented musicians
> that led the music in different directions. Jagger
> seems to lead the Stones; it would be difficult to
> "vocally" lead a band into another song. I don't
> think that the Stones' material lends itself to
> that style of performance. It would be cool to
> see/hear, though.
>
> I sometimes go for periods where I listen to much
> more of the Dead than the Stones. When I go back
> and listen to the Stones, I always wish that they
> would extend what they do. But it's always tight
> and to the point.
>
> I think Dylan may be a happy medium: he does
> various versions of his and other tunes and works
> in fairly extended solos.



I believe this post sums it up beautifully.


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