Just watching/listening to LA '75...what a great performance Wyman does....basically whenever keith leaves a gap Wyman fills in with his booming bass...brilliant !

...and like Hampton '81...Wyman rules the roost!

...yeahhhh,,,, paying tribute to wyman... he's great, rules the roost alright .... you'd want him in your band just on his looks alone,, i hate it when ya all goof on em....

Nobody is dissing Wyman here. After he lefy he did start looking funny though

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

i miss him...a true stone...well we are all a little funny looking..and thats what i love about the stones! ha..

Thats the best part about Wyman. He plays loud. Otherwise you would never know he was there. It would be cool if he still played with the Stones, however, he s easiest to replace. I like Darryl. The bass in multi-guitar bands gets wiped out by the rhythm guitarist anyway. Unless he plays loud like Billy Boy.

have to hand it to billy boy, he stuck to his guns and stayed retired from the stones even though the money had to be tempting him to come back

Who needs the money, fame, and groupies?

its funny, bill leaves the stones cause he is sick of touring, but now he tours more than when he was in the stones,LOL

I am not sure it was the touring as much as the flying associated with touring. His current tours, I am guessing, do not involve any flying.


The band however, has simply not sounded the same since he left and the change is not for the better.

yes indeed

Wyman wins what exactly?

melillo Wrote:
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> its funny, bill leaves the stones cause he is sick
> of touring, but now he tours more than when he
> was in the stones,LOL


Not so much that he was sick of touring, but more a case of him being sick of the Stones and frightened of flying.

yeah where are these hands Wyman won?

He won the "Who gets the most chicks" contest too.

ChrisM Wrote:
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> Wyman wins what exactly?


Best bass playing in the Rolling Stones. Vastly superior to Keith, Ronnie and light yrs better than Daryl.

Glass Slide Wrote:
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> ChrisM Wrote:
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> > Wyman wins what exactly?
>
>
> Best bass playing in the Rolling Stones. Vastly
> superior to Keith,

well..he should be as hes played the instrument all his career

Ronnie and light yrs better
> than Daryl.



Taylor wasnt bad! Eg - Fingerprint File

Fair point Gazza, forgot about Fingerprint File.

I thought it was a bit of a rhetorical question myself.

While the comparisons to players whose main instrument is guitar
is not necessarily fair, it is certainly fair game to point out how
superior he is to Daryl and how the band no longer grooves the way it
once did---one of the real trademarks of the band's sound and what separated
them from hundreds of other bands.

I'm not an expert musician so its not for me to say who's "superior" from a technical point of view. and I would think most of us would be in the same position in that we cant judge.

Jones was playing in Miles Davis' band by the time he was 22, and I doubt a perfectionist like Miles would hire someone who was substandard. That on its own is a good enough pedigree as far as I'm concerned.

Whether he's better for the Stones is another discussion, though. The fact is, Bill left and you cant turn the clock back - and it's the Stones themselves (and particularly Charlie) who chose him out of the all the guys who auditioned. They know whats right for them better than any of us.

Gazza Wrote:
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> I'm not an expert musician so its not for me to
> say who's "superior" from a technical point of
> view. and I would think most of us would be in the
> same position in that we cant judge.
>
> Jones was playing in Miles Davis' band by the time
> he was 22, and I doubt a perfectionist like Miles
> would hire someone who was substandard. That on
> its own is a good enough pedigree as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> Whether he's better for the Stones is another
> discussion, though. The fact is, Bill left and you
> cant turn the clock back - and it's the Stones
> themselves (and particularly Charlie) who chose
> him out of the all the guys who auditioned. They
> know whats right for them better than any of us.


Totally agree and I should have made myself clearer---I have little doubt from a "technique" standpoint Daryl is the superior player, but then again so is Flea and I sure would not want him in the Stones either.

I was limiting myself to the Stones. And, on one hand who am I or anyone to question Charlie, on the other hand, frankly, I think he did not make such a great choice. I wonder if, being a jazz guy, he was taken by the fact that Daryl played with Miles, who knows? An opinion that gets reinforced for me everytime I listen to a post '90 recording or worse, when, as I did last night listen to something like Handsome Girls---the bass playing is stellar and a huge part of the sound.

We all get hung up on discussing "weaving", but what, I think sometimes gets lost is that the bass lays the foundation for the weaving to take place.

The other half of the finest rhythm section in Rock!!!

Very true.

The thing is Charlie gets all his well deserved accolades, Bill Wyman is treated as a replaceable part--including some members of his band (Mick, in particular made some very dopey comments) when time has proven that not to be the case.

It's easy to overlook Wyman but hard to overhear. As far as Jagger, Taylor was the first and Wyman the second. He knows, just won't admit.

Well put. It's all about marketing, not "living in the past", which is fine on one hand but when you start denying greatness.....well, it's just that, denial.

I agree totally, Glass... Funny, with regards to their talent, no one who has been a fan would deny any of them anything; just they themselves. How ironic is that?

It's unfortunate, Landover, to say the least. it is this refusal to look back that keeps all this GREAT stuff in the vault and releasing a "Rarities" that ain't all that rare (some of the choices are downright bizarre) and, worse, shamefully crops out an original member of the band.

Very unfortunate.

When I first saw that CD I could not believe it. It took about two seconds to catch it, and I'm not that bright. I believe all of that sort of stuff comes from too much self management and too many "hey boy's" hanging around. You just know they have only scratched the surface, and with regards to their recordings how really well regarded would they be by even their toughest fans if they would put that stuff together and put it out? You can't say they don't leave you wanting for more.

Wyman was not the most technically gifted bass player, but my point is that he knew exactly when to 'boom' his bass, and his work with keith & Charlie was far superior than the current player....and Ronnie for that matter

just listen to miss you from shattered in europe, bill and charlie are smokin,
even mick seems to be enjoying it, never heard charlie and daryl gel like that

Its like (good) sex with a wellknown partner.
Once ya get a new one there is too much new things to learn or teach,
depending if ya're he or she or whatever.
Maybe Darryl ought to be replaced by a chick?