>Maybe you should post on the Alabama message board.

@#$%& you. I live in Alabama and I'm not a redneck. You exhibit the same tendency towards sweeping condemnations of stereotypes that you pretend to condemn. You're as bad as any redneck conservative.

Hillary Clinton was on the Walmart board of directors for six years.

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Just for info: Walmart is up 6.1% this year.

Glam Descendant Wrote:
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> >Maybe you should post on the Alabama message
> board.
>
> @#$%& you. I live in Alabama and I'm not a
> redneck. You exhibit the same tendency towards
> sweeping condemnations of stereotypes that you
> pretend to condemn. You're as bad as any redneck
> conservative.

Alabama the band, dope. BTW, sorry to hear you live in Alabama..

My heart goes out to all the victims of this weeks killer storms in AL and GA. Being from the midwest, I know all too well how scary it can be. You are totally at their mercy.

Steven Wrote:
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> George Soros also has a huge investment in
> Haliburton. The left wing bomb throwers don't
> seem to have any moral problem with spending those
> dollars though.

gosh steven, how very unlike you to equate tho who don't agree with your pathetic puerile non-logic as 'left wing'...
but you don't stop there...just like a good little o'reilly/limbaugh clone that wants to desperately justify all kinds of lies, murder and mayhem and still keep their little chickenhawk business' going...
... and feel good about it...you must, for some reason, continually insist on equating people who don't agree with your puerile pathetic non-logic as "bomb throwers"...

that's exactly the level of hollow desperation i've come to expect from you, and you seldom disappoint...

the 'tewwist' card...as chickenhawk exploiters are always first to start their hysterical viciousness into an a discussion...which is exactly like lobbing a bomb here...and now, watch it explode in your face.

btw, you never did answer the question i asked months ago about what your little business was, where the products were made or whether your employees had health care or a living wage...

you always wanna talk about market ecoonomy philosphy, until it gets really real...then we're 'bomb throwers'...what does cheney's butt taste like?...
gosh, between that and rush's viagra, oxy and gay asian-sex vacations, you should really be feeling your oats...

so ty for clearing this up...anyone who dosen't agree with you and other rapacious little bizness dweebs is a terrorist...got it, thanks...

some intelligence here (u can drop out here steven)
couresty david sirota:
Despite the fact that NAFTA and China PNTR have helped destroy American wages and jobs; have increased our trade deficit to crisis proportions; and have been a key weapon in preventing global environmental and human rights standards, the people who predicted such outcomes are still regarded with contempt and berated with false attacks, while the people who championed such awful policies are considered the legitimate voices of reason. Jeff Faux spells this out particularly well today over at TPM Cafe:

"Why is it that in these globalization discussions among college educated professionals, it is always the integrity and motivation of those who challenge the corporate line that is suspect?...Have you asked free-traders if they want to see children in India go blind making rugs, union activists tortured and murdered in Columbia, women workers locked inside filthy factories in China? Or laid off manufacturing workers commit suicide in the US? Of course not. Then why ask me to prove to you that I don’t want to keep the Chinese poor?...It’s a measure of the pervasiveness of class in our culture that “liberals” begin a discussion about globalization with the assumption that political virtue lives on Wall Street and political vice at the AFL-CIO. If anything, the argument for NAFTA was the less serious. It was based on promises of jobs, reduced immigration and prosperity among the Mexican poor that promoters knew were false when they made them. It was a crappy deal for workers in all three countries. Why such contempt for people who turned out to be right?"
The answer, of course, has to do with where the money and power is. The Establishment is reflexively pro-war, and - for obvious reasons of profit making - innately supportive of "free" trade deals that are chock full of corporate protections (patents, copyrights, intellectual property restrictions) but stripped of basic protections for human beings (wages, labor standards, human rights, environmental regulations, etc.).

But still, there is something troubling when these innate biases consume the entire debate and those who have been so utterly and completely right are utterly and completely berated as illegitimate. It speaks to a political discourse where the "reality-based community" is totally replaced by what I would call the "post-factual" era - a period in time where the dialogue does not even pretend to be based on any actual evidence or concrete information and where the most factually wrong are paraded around as the most right. And just a quick look at the chaos in Iraq or the economic havoc being wreaked here at home shows that this "post-factualism" does not bode well for anyone other than the handful of elites at the top.

I have no idea what this beely person is trying to say BUT my instincts tell me he MUSt be either Johnny Depp or that princess, Gwyneth Pathetic-o. Which it be beel girl?

u know who i am and i know wh oyou are scelca; i know very well...
i don't have to hide around fake names and sick little quips...i can deal with facts, and i can deal with your lowbrow crap and screw you into the ground, as i have done many times.

I figued it out. Beeley girl = bill clinton!!!

The trail of the "Beeley girl" (aka Clinton)
Administration Records Set

- The only president ever impeached strictly on grounds of personal malfeasance

- Most convictions and guilty pleas

- Most Cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

- Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

- Most witnesses to die suddenly

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

Historical Context

- Number of independent counsel inquiries since the 1978 law was passed: 19

- Number that have produced indictments: 7

- Number that produced more convictions than the Starr investigation: 1

- Median length of investigations that have led to convictions: 44 months

- Length of Starr-Ray investigation (7/00): 67 months.

- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions to date (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 15

- Median cost per Starr investigation conviction: $3.5 million as of 3/00

- Total cost of the Starr investigation (3/00) $52 million

- Total cost of the Iran-Contra investigation: $48.5 million

- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5


- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3

Crime Stats

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47

- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33

- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61

- Number of imprisonments: 14

- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122 (9/99)

Smaltz Investigation

- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15

- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6

- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million

- Cost of investigation: $22.2 million through 9/99

- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million

- Amount Tyson Food still has in annual government contracts: $200 million

- Reasons individuals other than Espy went free: Concealing knowledge of gifts to Espy and his girlfriend (1), providing illegal gratuities to Espy(4), illegally supplementing the salary of a government official (2), concealing receipt of illegal funds on behalf of Espy (1) (Espy's chief of staff was sentenced to prison in this case)

Crimes for Which Convictions Have Been Obtained

Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.

Other Matters Investigated by Special Prosecutors
and Congress or Reported in the Media

Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

Unexplained Phenomena

- FBI files misappropriated by the White House: c. 900

- Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000

- Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5

- Problem areas listed in a memo by Clinton's own lawyer in preparation for the president's defense: 40

- Number of witnesses and critics of Clinton subjected to IRS audit: 45

- Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000

- Number of persons involved with Clinton who have been beaten up: 2

- Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened: 5 (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen)

- Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 9

Arkansas Sudden Death Syndrome

- Number of persons in the Clinton orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 7

- Number known to have been murdered: 2

- Number who died in plane crashes: 11

- Number who died in automobile accidents: 3

- Number killed during Waco massacre: 4

- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1

- Number of medications being taken by Jim McDougal at the time he was placed in solitary confinement shortly before his death: 12

- Number of unexplained deaths: 3

- Total of above deaths: 31

- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30

- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

Arkansas Alzheimer's

- Number of times Hillary Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50

- Number of paragraphs in this statement: 42

- Number of times Bill Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in the released portions of the his testimony on Paula Jones: 271

- Total number of facts or events not recalled before official bodies by Bill Kennedy, Harold Ickes, Ricki Seidman, Bruce Lindsey, Bill Burton, Mark Gearan, Mack McLarty, Neil Eggleston, John Podesta, Jennifer O'Connor, Dwight Holton, Patsy Thomasson, Jeff Eller, Beth Nolan, Cliff Sloan, Bernard Nussbaum, George Stephanopoulous, Roy Neel, Rahm Emanuel, Maggie Williams, David Tarbell, Susan Thomases, Webster Hubbell, Roger Altman, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton: 6,125

- Average occurrence of memory lapse by top administration figures while before official bodies: 235

Arkansas Money Management

- Amount of an alleged electronic transfer from the Arkansas Development Financial Authority to a bank in the Cayman Islands during 1980s: $50 million

- Grand Cayman's population: 18,000

- Number of commercial banks: 570

- Number of bank regulators: 1

- Amount Arkansas state pension fund invested in high-risk repos in the mid-1980s in one purchase in April 1985: $52 million through the Worthen Bank.

- Number of days thereafter that the state's brokerage firm went belly up: 3

- Amount Arkansas pension fund dropped overnight as a result: 15 percent

- Percent of Worthen Bank that Mochtar Riady bought over the next four months to bail out the bank and the then-governor, Bill Clinton: 40 percent.

- Percent of purchasers from the Clintons and McDougals of resort lots who lost the land because of the sleazy financing provisions: more than 50 percent

The Media

- Number of journalists covering Whitewater who have been fired, transferred off the beat, resigned or otherwise gotten into trouble because of their work on the scandals (Doug Frantz, Jim Wooten, Richard Behar, Christopher Ruddy, Michael Isikoff, David Eisenstadt, Yinh Chan, Jonathan Broder, James R. Norman, Zoh Hieronimus): 10

Friends of Bill

- Number of times John Huang took the Fifth Amendment in answer to questions during a Judicial Watch deposition: 1,000

- Visits made to the White House by investigation subjects Johnny Chung, James Riady, John Huang, and Charlie Trie: 160

- Number of campaign contributors who got overnights at the White House in the two years before the 1996 election: 577

- Number of members of Thomas Boggs' law firm who have held top positions in the Clinton administration: 18

- Number of times John Huang was briefed by CIA: 37

- Number of calls Huang made from Commerce Department to Lippo banks: 261

- Number of intelligence reports Huang read while at Commerce: 500

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good try moron; i didn't even mention clinton in my post!! don't let that stop you...u responded to NOTHING...as cowards are wont to do always...

u came up with your own agenda 'factoids'...(my post had been critical of clinton's nafta) but you are on your rush limbaugh wet dream here...
and won't debate on the facts...you'll switch the 'reality' around to suit whatever long laundry list of facts you've collected from your right wing web site, and drawn the argument into a whole other dimension...and i won't respond to that...you have had ample oppourtunity to respond on point and have run away scared, as you chickenhawks murderers always do...and continue with the baiting me by calling me a girl, when not a leftie or bomb thrower...

do you think people are so stupid that they haven't observed these techniques ad infinitum from your oxy-viagra ridden radio hosts and talking heads???

do you really think anyone buys your duplicitious kook-aid anymore?
do you really think that anyone in the world who sees this viciousness is too lame to see the parched skeletal ruins behind your synthetic terror conciousness and your attack points...

you have another agenda then this thread or responding in kind to points made on this thread...and that dosen't matter either, because you will continue to lose elections bigtime...
gosh that's odd...scelesa, accesla, anemsca, acnesa, or whatever her name is, comes on the attack five minutes after my above post...makes no mention of any of it's content, refutes none of it, discusses none of it, rebuts none of it, dosen't make a point, other than call me movie star names and question my gender...
...and then runs and hides...plenty of time for a response...but now, for some reason...those lips aren't chattering...hmmmmmm....

that is a good thing to observe...about how the 'right' formulates smokescreen attacks while creating great worldwide misery for true patriots everywhere, especially here, where other people's kids have to leave their villages for carnage party...while scelcs and stevens types are raking in bucks on somebody's elses true honor.

if they hear something that sounds remotely like it's going to blow their talking points...they attack with gender stuff and name calling...call people 'bomb throwers' and 'terrorists'!!! get it?????
terrorists...
nothing more than a marketing term for these chickenhawk types...
they don't even propose a contention or s response other than throw some shit...
bullyboys who are all blubber.
well i'm going offline now so i'ts safe to answer now scelsa/sten/sccmbukcers inc.
but peeps will see the microcomsm, the few peeps who haven't figgered it out for themselves already...the incredibly tiny minority who are still confused about this in the face of these unwarranted, indefensible, and a cowardly personal attacks...bring it on scelsea...where did you go all of a sudden?
have u a point regarding this thread and these specific posts???, aside from your third rate ann coulter shtick...
no you don't. which makes you what you are...some bristles to wipe the manure off of my riding boots...bring it baby. bring it.

interesting tho, bush is the president...6 years now...u wanna talk clinton for some reason...hmmmmm....
can anyone tell the difference between the clinton and bush administration...
???
i wonder...gee, seems a few things are a bit different, don't it...
american kids die because of greedmonsters, and attack disinformation clones like u scelsea, what a sin...what a sin...

yeah i remember the torture scandal under clinton, the huge gas prices, the war after war, all the thousands of military deaths, and tens of thousands of serious injuries, the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed, the sick sadness of walter reed...the falsified intelligence information, outing of cia officers, the "unitary executive,"...there is a REASON why these pukes keep bringing up a peacetime president who left a huge surplus and one stain on one groupie's dress...there's a reason, can you figure it out....
all that money for ken starr...that was spent by scelsea's guys trying to take out a sitting, actually elected...president...for a BJ!!
we need a special prosector for imeachment again...only this time there's a reason...or several.
it beats talking about their guy, who the world, the entire world, has nothing but contempt for...THEIR guy...their guy...and he's selling to YOU...r u buying it?
he knows i'm not.



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