Hi,

in many threats i read about you guys, listening to the black crowes.and many liked them. now i bought myself the album SHAKE YOUR MONEY MAKER.
and what do i here !?

each song is stolen more or less by a band called the rolling stones...
i can not enjoy listening somethin, like this.

are all their other albums made the same way ?

what are talking about? yeah, the crowes were heavily influenced by the 70's rock gods - probably equal parts faces, stones, zep, humble pie - but they ripped nobody off.

i would say more like 2 parts faces 1 part stones 1/2 part zep 1/2 part humble pie


reading the dandy warhols thread and this post it seems a lot of people can't tell the difference being influenced by a band and stealing from them...its a fine line i suppose....

but everythings gotta come from somewhere...

Thye are one of the few hopes we have left as applies to REAl rock and roll.

ok my english is not that good ; )

Gimme Shelter Wrote:
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> ok my english is not that good ; )

it's better than your assumptions about the crowes' influences, though ;-)

Sister Luck = Sway.

Yes, they were Stones rip-offs at the time.
But then, Shake Your Money Maker was a HELL of a better tape than Steel Wheels.

I remember the Crowes opening for Robert Plant in 1990 (Maple Leaf Gardens). What a show!

stoned_in_dc Wrote:
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> i would say more like 2 parts faces 1 part stones
> 1/2 part zep 1/2 part humble pie
>
>

that does sound rather tasty. i'm getting hungry. what whine do you think would go well with this recipe?

Gimme Shelter

Get their second album, "Southern Harmonies", there is some GREAT stuff on there,

Sting me
Remedy
Slave - THIS SONG IS KILLER!

ok i will get it.
and i would never say that this album is bad, the only thing what i dont like about it is, that the guitar work is very keithish.. ; )

but its really rockin...

Yeah... it's too Keithish. However, it's the best Stones album since Tattoo You!

Gimme Shelter Wrote:
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that the guitar work is very keithish.. ; )


How is that wrong? If Keith is not going to play like than anymore, than someone else should. Keith style is different now.

Hey, when the Crowes recorded Shake Your Money Maker they were hardly in their early 20s, I mean, kinda like 20/22.
It's what the Crowes came to be, one of the few original, stylish, stage competent rock bands left in the world.

I remember reading how they played a festival with the Allman Bros. Gregg's girlfriend said "Aw look honey, they're wearing the same costumes you used to wear. Cute!"

I laughed when I read that.

I think I agree with stoned_in_dc's apportionment of their influences ;^)

In any event they're a cracking good Rock N Roll band. I've always greatly enjoyed their music. Good band.

CindyC Wrote:
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> Gimme Shelter Wrote:
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> that the guitar work is very keithish.. ; )
>
>
> How is that wrong? If Keith is not going to
> play like than anymore, than someone else should.
> Keith style is different now.

that's quite profound. who's ghost-writing for Cindy today?

StonesTod - stop stalking me!! :-)

What's wrong with a band sounding like other rock bands. Don't you think that they listened to the same stuff you did? Bands develop over time. So did the Stones. When they started all they did was blues covers. Everyone has influences.

BC are known as a poor man's Rolling Stones. Shake Y M M is one of my fav rock n roll albums. Southern H C kicks arse as does Amorica. Seen them live three times. Rock n roll man.

the crowes helped me through the musically boring 90's!
shake your moneymaker was a really great release and
the "southern harmony" is the black crowes own exile on main st.!!!!

Amorica alone puts the BC up there with the gratest!

C

And we haven't mentioned "Three Snakes and one Charm" yet ...
In any case, I have never really thought about the BCs being Stones copycats.
Those who say that don't really know s**t about music.
I can see many other bands having influenced the BCs before the Stones.
The BCs have way more devoleped song structures than the Stones, they go for less easy musical paths than the Stones, play a lot better than the Stones.
The only thing in common they do really have is some songs in open G tuning, that's it.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-29 08:53 by cirrhosis.

> In any case, I have never really thought about the
> BCs being Stones copycats.
> Those who say that don't really know s**t about
> music.
> I can see many other bands having influenced the
> BCs before the Stones.
> The BCs have way more devoleped song structures
> than the Stones, they go for less easy musical
> paths than the Stones, play a lot better than the
> Stones.
> The only thing in common they do really have is
> some songs in open G tuning, that's it.

Really. I'd like to think I know a thing or two about music.

Well, I still stand by my first post here -> Sister Luck = Sway.

Just get the GREATEST HITS first (can't remember the exact name). Check out [www.tower.com] and type in Black Crowes. They have everything on there.

I think SYMM is the Stones album the Stones themselves never recorded. But the Faces are probably a greater influence if you look at all their albums.

Southern Harmony and Amorica: two of the greatest rock 'n roll albums of the nineties. And they deliver live. And Chris Robinson's got a amazing voice.

I'd recomend picking up By Your Side. This band is fun southern rock. Stones inspiration does not = ripping off. Keith's style of guitarwork is one that I wish more bands attempted to immitate. If anyone were to replace the Stones the only candidates would be the Hives and the Black Crowes. Unfortunately the Black Crowes seemed to have peaked and then fallen off. Lions sucked.

-Drake

Rock N Roll isn't meant to be original. If you are looking for originality you have the wrong style of music. Seems anyone who says ".... is a Stones copycat" is the type of person who only listens to one band and can't really be considered a music fan or authority at all. I have Shake Your Moneymaker and liked it when it first came out but I saw them once and it bored me almost to sleep. And this was following Oasis, who has almost the least dynamic onstage presence.

drake Wrote:
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> Unfortunately the Black Crowes seemed to
> have peaked and then fallen off. Lions sucked.

Thegot a new album coming out next spring. Hope they recover! Live they're better now then they were in the Lions era.

Dan Wrote:
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> Rock N Roll isn't meant to be original. If you are
> looking for originality you have the wrong style
> of music.

True.




However, originality separates the men from the boys.