a completely uninspired bore to my ears! and really really sad, the people at the club don't even seem to have the least bit of interest at all they are just chatting away during the performance.
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Ket Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > a completely uninspired bore to my ears! and really really sad, the people at the club don't even seem to have the least bit of interest at all they are just chatting away during the performance.
sorry,but you're totally totally wrong. The crowd was really impressed, at the end of the song (what had to be cutted off because U-tube allows 10 minute films) the crowd can't stop yelling, and even some people hang over the stage, jumping like crazy... (You cannot judge on that, because you can't even see the crowd on this film! How crazy can it get) Probably you prefer a circus above good music. And this is a really good and very inspired performance, listen to the melodic lines in the solos, just flowing out of his hands, both nights totally different solos, 100% improvisated... I drove a long way from home to visit this show and it was worth it every mile!
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OpenG Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rollingand rocking - taylor played with a pick did > he change up and play without > as well during the show
actually I've not been watching that...only been listening.. I'm sorry
OpenG Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > taylor is brilliant and the Vibrato lives on. I > think he played more notes then > the WEAVERS have done the past ABB tour LOL.
Can't say it's my cup of tea (I guess if he was more adventurous harmonically I'd dig it more) but it's great to see nonetheless. Taylor obviously just doing his thing, genuine, with his technique and feel intact. That's all one can ask from a musician, and he's a brilliant musician.
the song itself was a little lacking (thats not taylor's fault, thats because of the musicians playing with him), but man once he starts soloing, that is amazing. he may be a little hit and miss with some tunes, but man he really nailed that solo, and he still has his really distinctive sound too, i need to learn those scales. i have asked for his educational guitar DVD for christmas.
Taylor has often said that he is most proud to have worked with Dylan. There are accounts that it was an uneasy association, but Taylor seems to have fond memories of it. He said he was present when Bob wrote this song. Perhaps that is why he plays it. I'd like to hear him cover some other Bob tunes. Simple Twist of Fate? ....Baby Blue?
TippyToe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Great guitar from Taylor. I think it's the best > singing I've heard from him too. > > I noticed he did a verse of "All Along the > Watchtower" towards the end. Does he always do > that when he plays Blind Willie McTell"?
I don't know or he does it all the time, but I know he does is often. Mostly he builds a piece of "Layla" into the song and then transform it into "All Along The Watchtower"...
What a great piece is this on Youtube, this shows how he was performing those 2 days...
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I think Taylor's performance is excellent and that includes his singing. I think he sings better than Jagger these days - he's certainly a lot more soulful and his guitar playing still leaves the Stones current line up well and truly in the shade.The stones these days are all about the spectacle but Taylor bypasses that to deliver something which is far more substantial, soulful and sincere. He's not just role playing.
I have seen him with the Finnish Wentus Blues Band several times and he always do some Layla and All Along Watchtower on this one. I try to go and see as many as possible of the gigs he does in Scandinavia and Finland together with Wentus which in my opinion is a very good back up band for him. Based on this youtube film, it is hard to tell how good or bad the band is but I kind of feel that Wentus is much more alive and really play WITH Taylor and just not play with Taylor as this seams to be... Is this his regular back up band or?
great guitar work, but all in all this performance shows why Taylor cant really stand on his own feet as an artist - his singing is ultimately unimpressive, and as a frontman he is not very charismatic too. thats probably why his solo career never really took off and why hes is restricted to play small clubs only during his entire solo career so far. his guitar is as great as guitar playing gets, but otherwise he is no Eric Clapton, no Alvin Lee, no Jimi Hendrix - his appearance lacks charisma, his singing is weak, and he is lacking a larger variety of great song material, he noodles more or less the same old songs since almost two decades. and his faceless backing musicians dont help either.
Well, my two cents...I was there the 18th, and of course it was great to see Taylor alive and kicking. He's my hero, I've been copying him for the last 20 years, so who am I to criticise him.
But if there's a bit of criticism, it would be that I wondered how long Taylor hadn't picked up the guitar. He sounded totaly rusty and unsure at times. Like he hadn't played the guitar for a year, only to pick it up again to play these gigs. At times he was out of tune, playing the wrong key, or just fiddlng around. His slide playing still had the "Taylor magic", but at times it sounded like his fingers were thick and stiff. I also did find the band lacking, especially the drummer wasn't playing, how can I say it, tastefully. He was a typical 1980's drummer, let's leave it there.
And there's something else. It't not Taylor's fault as he plays the music he likes, and he plays the music from HIS era, but the kind of jazzy blues is so totally passe, so totaly boring...it's complete ballroom blues, with not the least bit of excitement or energy. Blues music has seen its day by now, and the way this band played it is totally absolete. It's worn out by now I guess. It also doesn't help Taylor is playing the same set for the last 20 years...But there was something wrong this night. I have several tapes of Taylor playing in the late 80's and early 90's, and he just totally ripps it up every night. But this night in Ochten wasn't one of those. Let's hope Taylor decided to do a proper tour again, so we can see a ready to burn Taylor live in 2007!
cannot help but agree, Mathijs. what shocked me a bit I also had impression that Taylor did not pick up his guitar for a long time. but it can also be a sign that he lacked any passion, as someone who lost his vision and sees no way where to go in the future. not a good sign. and considering the fact that his set includes more or less the same songs for the last 20 years I at times even wondered in the past what his vision actually was. for someone once leaving the Stones by stating he was bored (after 5 years!) by playing the same stuff over and over and desperately wanting to touch uncovered musicial grounds, I could never understand his unimaginative and nearly always same sets in last 20 years. probably even he is a bit bored by now with what he is playing. at least currently he shows no real passion and fire. and that shows in his playing.
To Erik_Snow, Mathijs and His Majesty I have to say:
His voice is one you like or you don't, he has soul that's for sure.
Above all Taylor is: "close your eyes and dream away on this sound" so don't want him to give a flashy show..
His setlist is just the music he loves and brings out the best in him, it's Blues with a real unique Taylor flavour, and if you say like 'His Majesty' that this is "blues like in my local pub" then you're not a music lover who can really hear the fine nuances, but a mass-public guy who just wants to get entertained by a charismatic showman and no music. And this song is no standard blues man. Sorry for my spiced responses but if you respond like that, then you don't know what you're talking about Majesty...
These nights in Ochten het totally lifted the roof with his unique top-class guitarwork. I'm sorry for Mathijs that he don't like the kind of music Taylor plays, but I think this is the Taylor style, and it wil never change, and I'm personally glad for that!
ow, before I forget, this backing band is much more class then any other band will ever reach. Max Middleton know for work with people like Jeff Beck, Peter Frampton, Chris Rea and so many others... Bassist Micheal Bailey just finished a project with Led Zeppelin singer Robert Plant and the drummer did some albums with Peter Green for instance....
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OpenG Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > taylor is brilliant and the Vibrato lives on. I > think he played more notes then > the WEAVERS have done the past ABB tour LOL.
of course you HAD to immediately turn the thread in the usual match The God Of Vibrato versus the 2 guitar players of the rolling stones why? can someone say that taylor sounds shit to his/her ears without commiting blasphemy?
then your typical note on the "number of notes" played as a nark of quality.
and of course as you posted we don't ghave to listen (and review) his way of singing because The Performance is his guitar work.
May I say that i think you have a very partial and biased way to listen to music?
If someone sings and play guitar i listen to him or her sing and play guitar, moreover, if someone plays in a band i consider also the sound of the other players and, mostly, the whole sound of the band as it reaches me as a whole.
I dont give a sh.. if he plays in clubs and not in arenas or stadiums. That is not a sign of the quality of his music. This mathematics of music is bs. You dont play better just because you do it before thousands of people.
But also the opposite rule is bs. It is not just because you play just for a small bunch of fans instead of billions that you are a better musician.
My 2 cents. Good solos, boring-easy-listening-claptonesque-of-the-eighties-bluesy performance.
And, just because you throw in this argument i would add that i can't recall a clip odf the abb tour so weak and unnerved to be put in contest with this thing
(of course i remember very clearly many "soloes" of ron and/or keith that are... just not soloes compared to these) but
is it possible that you consider that those qualities (number of notes, "fluidity") are easy to give credit to mr taylor nbut that do not sum up to "great music" for someone?