o.k. let me first say I LOVE the door's. i have everything by them plus over 50 boot's and rare book's reel to reel's , pam's autopsy.etc.etc..

on the door's website they are at it again with rehashing another box set! i mean what left is there to release?

to quote johnny rotten " you ever get the feeling you've been cheated" comes to mind....

wonder what the stones legacy will leave behind ?

why do we as music lover's of the stones have to have all the boot's and b-side's and rare stuff? what is it about them and the music itself? that touches us, that welisten to everyday!

"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"



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almost forgot the only interesting thing coming out of the door's camp is the fact they are making a new movie. suppossed to be the "real deal" gonna have to check that out . they are already in production

"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"

I thought the same thing till I read that besides each album also mixed to 5.1 surround there's suppose to be rare outtakes and footage at the end of each disc. I know for sure there's footage of them rehearsing CRAWLING KING SNAKE on the LA WOMAN DVD/CD so I must look into this further and see how much extra stuff you get with each release and how good it is. I know youtube had the original PEOPLE ARE STRANGE live on Ed Sullivan (the DOOR'S COLLECTION DVD used the album version and cut between Sullivan and another TV appearance) with the Sullivan soundtrack - that would be great in pristine quality plus WILD CHILD live from the Smothers Brothers show (same show that brought us TOUCH ME on the AVAILABLE DVD) - excellenct performance by Jimbo. That was on youtube also. Enough stuff like that and the box MIGHT make it worth the cash. The remixes are suppose to sound great and let you hear new stuff that was buried in the old mix. Time to investigate....

If I buy the box, it'll make it the fourth time I've bought all The Doors albums (vinyl, and both CD versions). Not sure I can be bothered, evewn with the extra tracks. The remastered versions sound fine.

The 'bootleg' label they started 'Bright Midnight' hasn't done that well which is why it's pretty much stopped releasing stuff.

Yeah I'm not sure Marshall. I too love the Doors and not so long back bought the essential Doors comp. Remastered it sounds brilliant.

I'd rather see an in depth dvd doco put together ala Beatles Anthology. Not anything like that childish crap that Danny Sugarman (rest his soul) put out like "No-one here gets out alive". I'd like to see a well crafted and thought out doco of the group.

kyle m

Have you ever lent somebody $20 and never seen them again? It was probably worth it.

Very boring group IMO...

But you have to admit that the releases BRIGHT MIDNIGHT has put out have been EXCELLENT. Full Concerts from beginning to end, no editing, and recorded very nicely sound wise. The problem with the DOORS and other Classic Rock Acts is the fan base is going down. The Down loading MTV rap kids ain't fans of the DOORS, STONES, or DYLAN. That's why these acts better start dumping all their unreleased past movies and videos out on DVD's before no one is left that's interested in buying them. BRIGHT MIDNIGHT would have done much better had they started when the Doors had their "second coming" after APOCALYPSE NOW featured THE END (new mix) so prominently....Even ROLLING STONE had Jimbo on their cover - a lost oppertunity...

I'm not sure that a Stones fan is in any position to slag any other band off for repackaging the same material ad nauseam.

I think the Doors have done Ok with archive releases over the last few years, considering the fact that there must be a limit to what must be out there for a band who only recorded for about five years.

Gazza, such a true statement. The recycling of hits is being done by all the classic rock acts (except for Zeppelin, well much less) Surely The Doors have plenty of Alternative versions of songs that would be great to hear.....

Gazza Wrote:
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> I'm not sure that a Stones fan is in any position
> to slag any other band off for repackaging the
> same material ad nauseam.


Why not? Just because you're a Stones fan aren't you allowed to dislike what other bands do? I'm not a big fan of repackeging either (Although I'd love to see the two missing albums included in the 2002 Decca remasters, and a good recycling of the entire Rolling Stones Records catalogue. Would be great to have those with sound as good as the 2002 remasters). That goes for The Stones and every other band.

JumpingKentFlash

For those who know, is there any boot available of the new doors (whatever they are called now) with copeland at the drums?

C

The Doors were great, but I've always thought they are a band for teenagers, even today. I listend tro them non stop when I was 16, but not since!

keefstheman Wrote:
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> Very boring group IMO...


TRUE
I call them the Bores
over rated drunk with an ink pen surrounded by half talent hacks

BUT as far as releasing the same stuff over again, it does not bother me

I am 38 years old and discovered most of the classic rock I enjoy after the fact... I mean I was only 4 when Sticky Fingers was released

so when I got around to buying stuff it was re-releases, greatest hits and box sets.

IF you are only 15 years old and just getting into the Doors then the box set would be a great way to discover them

there will always be new fans so there will always be a need to release your back catalog

If the Doors are boring I wonder what band such people find interesting...

One of the very few 100% honest-100% emotional rock bands there ever was.

I think you basher have only heard LA Woman (boring) & Light My Fire
(worn out)... Go hear Who Do You Love, Back Door man,
the album Strange Days & the album Morrison Hotel.
Then finish off with LA Woman & if you still not are convinced,
go buy the 90s box set.

I consider them the greatest American group ever. They brought a new sound and style to the scene.

Marhsall,

Why don't you post some of those boots over in hot stuff via u-send-it. What do you consider to be the best boot recordings?

Yeah, pleae post some Doors-boots over there, Marhsall...

Greatest Hits Cd will suffice for most of us.

I could make some nice compilation for ya, Elmo?
Doors-enchanted since about 1981 as I am.

Thanks, Bro. I've got most of the well known stuff.

Okie-dokie, Smokie. But have ya got the Box Set?

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not sure that a Stones fan is in any
> position
> > to slag any other band off for repackaging the
> > same material ad nauseam.
>
>
> Why not? Just because you're a Stones fan aren't
> you allowed to dislike what other bands do?


huh?

I'm
> not a big fan of repackeging either (Although I'd
> love to see the two missing albums included in the
> 2002 Decca remasters, and a good recycling of the
> entire Rolling Stones Records catalogue. Would be
> great to have those with sound as good as the 2002
> remasters). That goes for The Stones and every
> other band.



You miss the point. The Stones have their old material recycled and repackaged probably more than any other 'current band' - and if you get the material youre personally dying to get, you can bet that in a couple of years time, it'll be done all over again. At least Stones fans have a band thats still able to create fresh material - so theres less excuse for it.

When they set up their own label in 1971, they even took out full page ads in the music press criticising Decca for releasing 'inferior' repackaging of old product by choosing to out out 'Stone age' in the same month as 'Sticky Fingers'

Yet, in the 35 years since leaving Decca, of the 27 albums theyve released, only 14 have been studio albums, with 6 live albums and 7 compilations

Since 'Undercover'in 1983, theyve released five studio albums, four live albums and four compilations. And thats not counting the remasters and reissues.

And Stones fans criticise ABCKO?

Manzarek has lost it long ago imho.

No, any gems would be appreciated.

I'll take a dig some time during this weekend.
See ya, man! Now for some logistic duties with the kids, sports stuff.

B cool.

how can i post they are on tape.. if they would disc 's i would post EVERY SINGLE ONE! sorry . but will make copies for anyone who wants some. just send me self addressed envelope and tapes.......

here is what i have

Isle of Wight

Texax 12-11-70 last recorded show w/ morrison

ca. 7-4-67

matrix 3-7-67

matrix 3-10-67 "w/ get off of my life!!! wow!)

danbury ct. 10-17-67

winterland 12-26-67

winterland12-28-67

demo tapes

boston 3-17-68

chicago 5-10-68

singer bowl 8-2-68

hollywood bowl 7-5-68

amsterdam 9-18-68

chalk farm 9-8-68

stockholm early show 9-20-68

stockholm late show 9-20-68

l.a. 12-14-68

rick and the ravens demo

dinner key auditorium 3-1-69

pbs special 5-23-69

danish t.v. special 9-68

rock is dead uncut studio session 3-69

the lost paris tapes

felt forum early show 1-17-70

felt forum late show 1-17-70

felt forum early show 1-18-70

jim morrison's HWY soundtrack

felt forum late show 1-18-70

long beach 2-7-70

seattle 6-5-70

vancouver 6-6-70

maybe we could do some trading????????????

"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"

MicksBrain Wrote:
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> But you have to admit that the releases BRIGHT
> MIDNIGHT has put out have been EXCELLENT. Full
> Concerts from beginning to end, no editing, and
> recorded very nicely sound wise. The problem with
> the DOORS and other Classic Rock Acts is the fan
> base is going down. The Down loading MTV rap kids
> ain't fans of the DOORS, STONES, or DYLAN. That's
> why these acts better start dumping all their
> unreleased past movies and videos out on DVD's
> before no one is left that's interested in buying
> them. BRIGHT MIDNIGHT would have done much better
> had they started when the Doors had their "second
> coming" after APOCALYPSE NOW featured THE END (new
> mix) so prominently....Even ROLLING STONE had
> Jimbo on their cover - a lost oppertunity...

That's exactly the point. A lot of "archive" releases simply come to late. It became apparent when Springsteen released his excellent box set with outtakes, I remember exactly when people from his record company complained about bad sales and my answer was: "It's coming out a bit late". After many years when Springsteen was really hot and studio outtakes bootlegs flooded the market the artist and his record company finally woke up and decided to give the fans what they want -only to find out that sales were not as they expected because they missed the right point in his career when there were simply a lot more fans or people out there who were actually interested in such product. There are many examples, Dylan's "Albert Hall 1966" from his bootleg series could have sold 10 or 100 times more if only it would have been released 10 or 20 years earlier. And who will care if the Stones will release a 1972 live show in 10 years? How many hardcore fans (as it won't have any mass appeal) will be left who will be enthusiastic enough to buy it when it comes out in 2016 or even later? 5000? 10.000? It will sell probably even worse than No Security and Live Licks already did even if it is released now or in the next one or two years, not to speak of 5 or 10 or 15 years.



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There have been times, when I was about 17, that I liked the Doors more than the Stones. I still like them a lot but I didn't buy all the albums on CD. But every time I'm in Paris I visit Jim's grave at Pere Lachaise. Last time last sunday, but I didn't like the atmosphere with guards and barriers around the grave, ridiculous!

Wilco

Wilco Wrote:
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> There have been times, when I was about 17, that I
> liked the Doors more than the Stones. I still like
> them a lot but I didn't buy all the albums on CD.
> But every time I'm in Paris I visit Jim's grave at
> Pere Lachaise. Last time last sunday, but I didn't
> like the atmosphere with guards and barriers
> around the grave, ridiculous!
>
> Wilco

Still understable with all the bums and junkies
and meaningless people roamin around sprayin grafitti
and just acting like jerks in the name of a dude
they have no idea of about he was.