Oh my, is that incredible or what!!!! I also watched the Hyde Park one. Mick Taylor definitely gave them a whole different edge and sound.

Still the hardest working band in the bus but today's show band doesn't compare to those days.

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> Ahh yes....when Keith played guitar

(said like Chris Farley as the SNL interviewer)....

"remember when Keith Richards played guitar....yeah...that was awesome."

The Stones can have their off-nights, but when they're cooking they're still one of the two greatest rock n roll bands in the world. The Who are the other.

Pietro, thanks for that oustanding clip. Even if Keith is somewhat out of tune, ( but who cared at that time ) his legend began those days and MickT made the difference. Are they still great : yes. Obviously : yes.

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> The whiners would be out here in droves if they
> were still the same now as back then. They were a
> great band then and still are a great band now.


That exactly right, Mr. Beast!!

The whiners want the Stones to change constantly while remaining the same??

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> > The whiners want the Stones to change constantly
> while remaining the same??


you gotta problem wid-dat?

I think what pisses some people off, is the fact that this heading, in a way, insinuates that the Stones are no longer a great band. That's really a shame, and of course, wrong. My favorite tour is the S.T.P. 1972, but using it to bash the band for what they are now, is not just a wrong way to celebrate their great past, but it's a slap in the face to all the people that prefer the band and their sound as it is today! Is this really necessary? Of course it's not the same to go to a Stones concert today, as it was in the seventies. It shouldn't be either, and there are a lot of reasons,ie. ageing as some already mentioned. I saw the band in Bergen this year and heard on of the better versions of JJF, dark and raw, as it should be! Well, I guess my point is that it shouldn't be too hard to celebrate our favorite period of the band without offending other fans on this great site.

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> > The whiners would be out here in droves if they
> > were still the same now as back then. They were
> a
> > great band then and still are a great band now.
>
>
> youre right. Most of their shortcomings in my book
> are more to do with business ethics, poor decision
> making and occasional lack of ambition.
>
> Were they better a few decades ago? Unquestionably
> - but its all relative. The late 60s/early 70's
> Stones were better than any band before, since or
> any that will ever exist, so to not be quite as
> magnificent as that isnt anything to feel bad
> about. Thats a near impossible standard to
> maintain.
>
> In terms of recording and performing, they can
> still cut the mustard, thank you very much.
>
> The music is mighty, mighty fine.


Gazza - do you include the '75 Stones in that?
timfromplexiglassmontana

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> you gotta problem wid-dat?


Yes. "Change the set list, change the set list!" "But you better keep playing and sounding just like you did in '72 (when they hardly changed their set list)"

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> > constantly
> > > while remaining the same??
> >
> >
> > you gotta problem wid-dat?
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>
> Yes. "Change the set list, change the set list!"
> "But you better keep playing and sounding just
> like you did in '72 (when they hardly changed
> their set list)"

that's right. you gotta problem wid-dat?

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> > > you gotta problem wid-dat?
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> >
> > Yes. "Change the set list, change the set
> list!"
> > "But you better keep playing and sounding just
> > like you did in '72 (when they hardly changed
> > their set list)"
>
> that's right. you gotta problem wid-dat?

Who do you think you are, some kind of a tough-guy New Yorker?

Joisey

'Don't ask me about my past, I was a different person then..."

Who is any exception?

Well, do not forget that we all have changed. Basically up till the 1982 tour the Stones were youth idols, and they still were young themselves so you even overlooked Keith's bad teeth or Jagger's horrible singing in 1975/75. The technical overkill on the tours from 1989 on shows a change not only of the band but also of their audience. People get the perfect show they want. They see a singer who is much fitter than most of them will ever be.

Now the Stones basically appeal to middle-aged, saturated people who go to see them (with their family) for excessively high prices because they can afford it and/or impress their friends. Many want to hear the warhorses because they can sing along and have a good time so the most ordinary setlist is perfect for them. And a Stones ticket still makes a great incentive even for people who hardly listen to their records but are very impressed by getting to see them in a luxury atmosphere.

But times have also changed. While '@#$%&' raised a scandal when it came out any other song today has explicit language. The Stones were part of the sexual liberation but of course, being over 60 now, it is impossible for them to write songs that impress the world as much as they did back in the 1960s. That's the fate of us all - being young and 'rebellious', getting older and quieter..

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> Remembering the Stones when they were a great band


What's the point of remembering 5 seconds ago?

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> The whiners would be out here ..............
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If nobody would respond to them

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Keep On Rolling

It's hard to argue that there isn't some truth in the sentiments expressed by saltoftheearth and others...but don't go thinking that we all have to get fat, soft and contented as we get older.
Some folks do, others don't.

If you're what could be described as "middle aged" [I'm 47], look at the guys you went to school with and you'll see it straight away.
Some of them have become "middle aged" and display every stereotypical characteristic which that description conjours up.
Others are just as they were at school...with a few extra lines [and maybe a bit less hair in some cases.]

The buzz I get from a Stones show is exactly the same buzz as I got in 1973...exactly!



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Ditto! (says Ms. Beast)

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That is a GREAT post ! ! ! Thanks, my sentiments exactly.


plexi

The Stones are still a great band. Would some of you doubters like them much more if the ticket prices were cheaper?

Or....

Remembering when Keith held his guitar by the body, not the neck.

Remembering when the object was to play music, not present a spectacle.

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> Or....
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> Remembering when Keith held his guitar by the
> body, not the neck.
>
> Remembering when the object was to play music, not
> present a spectacle.


Or remembering when fans knew how to rock out and didn't bitch and live in the past?

JumpingKentFlash

They are still a good band, when they want to be.

As for not mixing o the setist in 1972....the setlist then contained all sorts of 'new' music for them at the time, rather than living off of past hits. It didn't change much, show to show, but it was a lot of NEW, great music. With this ABB tour, they kind of forgot they put an album out called ABB. Play more than 2 or 3 songs off the record!

lol

Life's just a cocktail party on the street

its funny how everyone see's the stones today differently.im a stones veteran of 40 or more shows dating back to 78,i'll take this tour as a reference.9/13/06 (msg) one of ,if not the best i have ever seen or heard them play,10/10/06(phillie)started great,turned into a mess.ft lauderdale march 06,bands on fire.when there focused,no band is even in ther league.they do have some moments that don't go well,but thats always happened.i thing jagger is by far better then ever.i think the stones still have some great shows and tours in them,but they need to consider there age when making travel plans,stadium shows,are not a good idea(rain,cold,would you want your grandparents or parents ,walking in a thunderstorm)sure they are in great shape,but they need to not travel as much,i think the travel is more tiring on them than back to back nights.they should tour 4 months,take 4 months off,etc.lower ticket prices by 30 percent,do some theme shows,(whole albums)wheter new or old,play smaller venues,keep it fresh for us and them.

john scialfa

a good band--lol--the @#$%& greatest band there ever was

if u cant rock me the f-in stones will---see ys in A C

I'd like to see what the f#ck you're gonna be like when your in your sixties !

A - hole

Mr Beast.

That's funny