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Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:22

1) Stones wimping out

or

2) Stones smartly playing it safe for theater market

or

3) write-in your own explanation


I vote #1 - I thought Mick deftly handled this in '99 by swapping out the black/white references.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: HalfNanker ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:24

sing it as you wrote it, dont change anything.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:25

HalfNanker Wrote:
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> sing it as you wrote it, dont change anything.

in other words, they wimped out?

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: letitloose ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:26

HalfNanker Wrote:
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> sing it as you wrote it, dont change anything.


Totally agree. Its like the "Kennedys" thing in Sympathy. Either do the song as written or dont bother. The only one I agree with is Dylan, when he sings Masters of War - he omits the "Im younger than you" line, but thats a no brainer.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-11-02 22:27 by letitloose.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:40

He left out the WHOLE line? (Black girls just wanna.....)? If that's the case then welcome to THE DISNEY STONES..... Maybe they should rewrite all their songs so TOYS "R" US can carry the CD's..... Oh, Scorcese better start re - editing TAXI DRIVER too.... Someone dig up Charles Bukowski, he's got A LOT of re - writing to do....(we really are in George Orwell's "1984" aren't we.... holy sh*t)....

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:44

I think it's a combination of reason #1 and #2. They're chickening out...BUT it seem a bit silly to sing lines like that these days. So I don't know if it's such a bad omission.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:48

it's silly to sing that and it's not to sing "staring down your tits"?

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:50

StonesTod Wrote:
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> it's silly to sing that and it's not to sing
> "staring down your tits"?


I can easily picture Jagger or Richards stare down someone's tits. Mick did it at Christina.



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Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Lorenz ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:52

They wimped out - just like in 99, I was standing there, shouting that line as loud as possible and people looked at me as if I was a complete idiot, cause Mick didn't sing that line...


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Date: November 2, 2006 22:52

StonesTod Wrote:
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> 1) Stones wimping out
>
> or
>
> 2) Stones smartly playing it safe for theater
> market
>
> or
>
> 3) write-in your own explanation
>
>
> I vote #1 - I thought Mick deftly handled this in
> '99 by swapping out the black/white references.

3) the line is too sensitive for them to use these days - makes them regret their age. ya know, the same reason that they won't sing mother's little helper what with, "what a drag it is getting old."

you can't catch me!

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:53

Lorenz Wrote:
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> They wimped out - just like in 99, I was standing
> there, shouting that line as loud as possible and
> people looked at me as if I was a complete idiot,
> cause Mick didn't sing that line...

he sang it (albeit in black/white reversed fashion) on every version I've heard from that tour.....

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: November 2, 2006 22:57

Not just MOTHERS LITTLE HELPER Notorious, I doubt they'll EVER do TIME IS ON MY SIDE again (cause it ain't)......

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Date: November 2, 2006 23:01

MicksBrain Wrote:
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> Not just MOTHERS LITTLE HELPER Notorious, I doubt
> they'll EVER do TIME IS ON MY SIDE again (cause it
> ain't)......


on the other hand, we fans do come runnin' back, come runnin' back . . .

you can't catch me!

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 2, 2006 23:02

Maybe it's Mick just adjusting to modern times and
the recent invention of some pretty serious high powered
sex toys that them thar black girls just dont need to do that all night anymore......



ROCKMAN

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: micwer ()
Date: November 2, 2006 23:16

They whimped out. Hey, they already have one law suit on their a**.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: franzk ()
Date: November 2, 2006 23:20

MicksBrain Wrote:
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> Not just MOTHERS LITTLE HELPER Notorious, I doubt
> they'll EVER do TIME IS ON MY SIDE again (cause it
> ain't)......

So maybe they should finally do Time Waits For No One (it doesn't wait for them these days)

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Leonard Keringer ()
Date: November 3, 2006 00:16

a hear a chicken cackling

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Monkeylad ()
Date: November 3, 2006 01:53

That dead bloke in Start Me Up still cums, doesn't he?

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Halup ()
Date: November 3, 2006 02:01

Did he say jelly instead of jam?

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 3, 2006 02:12

Monkeylad Wrote:
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> That dead bloke in Start Me Up still cums, doesn't
> he?


not when he's doing so live on American TV, it would seem. Guess hes dried up.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: November 3, 2006 02:40

.......well........according to several news accounts.......... during Sunday nights performance of Sympathy For The Devil, Mick Jagger deliberately left out the line..."who killed the Kennedys"...because a Kennedy family member was back stage (apparently Robert Kennedy's son)........

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: November 3, 2006 10:25

They can sing a song in what ever way they like. It's called artistic freedom. A song is better with artistic freedom than with the bonds of play-it-like-you-made-it any day in my book.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: little queenie ()
Date: November 3, 2006 11:15

Rip This Wrote:
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> .......well........according to several news
> accounts.......... during Sunday nights
> performance of Sympathy For The Devil, Mick Jagger
> deliberately left out the line..."who killed the
> Kennedys"...because a Kennedy family member was
> back stage (apparently Robert Kennedy's
> son)........

i can understand that but they did also on Wednesday...

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: otonneau ()
Date: November 3, 2006 11:24

By the way, on every No Security boot I've heard, Jagger sings "some girls just want to get @#$%& all night", not black girls.
I think it's ridiculous to leave it out. Missy Elliot can say it, all the rappers can say it, but the Stones cannot?
Besides, it is a bloody joke, a cliché, nothing more. It's not a take on black girls, but on a white man's view of them. If that's shocking, then shey should also not show disrespect for all the other girls. Italians only want cars? French girls Cartier? English girls are a pain in the neck?
Mick has not only chickened, he's also lost his sense of humour as it seems.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: November 3, 2006 11:40

Good to start a friday with a moan eh? Whats next? Micks shirt a dodgy colour? Ronnies banana abit on the green side? Oh, I know, Keith looked abit bald?

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: little queenie ()
Date: November 3, 2006 11:57

i think the idea of black girls getting the "@#$%& all night" line assigned to them might have something to do with it - it's the most degrading line.

oh and speaking of keith looking bald, a roadie at the beacon claimed he saw the top of keith's head and they are hair plugs - he says there are all in a row. i love him anyway.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: November 3, 2006 11:59

LOL! You couldn't make it up!! Ya sneaked in a Keith Bald/Plugs line. Fantastic...

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Debra ()
Date: November 3, 2006 15:08

OH MY GOD, cut it out! It's THEIR SONGS and they can sing it like they choose and THAT is what makes it interersting! Let's see WHICH VERSION we'll get tonight! As for the Kennedy line in SFTD, that was classy to delete that line with Kennedy family in the audience.

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: November 3, 2006 15:49

I think Han should shoot first!

Re: Opinions wanted: omission of "jam" line in SG last nite
Posted by: Montrealsuperfan ()
Date: November 3, 2006 16:14

Wake up guys . This is a new world. Political correctness is in and those that don't conform get pilloried.

This is just reality, not my opinion.

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