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Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Date: October 24, 2006 23:26

Recently I´ve seen a documentary about Werner Herzog´s Fitzcaraldo with scenes where Mick was shown acting on the original cut and - sorry to say - I thought again that Mick was just way too superficial and almost embarrassing as an actor.

And it came to my mind, that I had the same feeling when I once watched a TV show where he performed a song to promote his solo record - he was moving and dancing way too unnatural - some may like that but I don´t and although I love Mick and he´s my favourite Stone I thought:

He just gets on his very best level when he has the backup of his band mates.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: October 24, 2006 23:29

ThroughTheLonelyNights Wrote:
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> Recently I´ve seen a documentary about Werner
> Herzog´s Fitzcaraldo with scenes where Mick was
> shown acting on the original cut and - sorry to
> say - I thought again that Mick was just way too
> superficial and almost embarrassing as an actor.
>
>

you do realise that the character he was playing was slightly retarded?

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: October 24, 2006 23:32

ThroughTheLonelyNights Wrote:
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> Recently I´ve seen a documentary about Werner
> Herzog´s Fitzcaraldo with scenes where Mick was
> shown acting on the original cut and - sorry to
> say - I thought again that Mick was just way too
> superficial and almost embarrassing as an actor.
>
> And it came to my mind, that I had the same
> feeling when I once watched a TV show where he
> performed a song to promote his solo record - he
> was moving and dancing way too unnatural - some
> may like that but I don´t and although I love Mick
> and he´s my favourite Stone I thought:
>
> He just gets on his very best level when he has
> the backup of his band mates.


I agree. And his bit on Fizcarraldo IS very very embarrassing. And it doesnt have anything to do with the film or the portraing, it is Mick Jagger who can't act. He's not an actor.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Date: October 24, 2006 23:59

>you do realise that the character he was playing was slightly retarded?<

Yes I do and they showed the same scene played by Kinsky, who of course was the perfect actor for this character and nobody ever could compete with him - but anyway I´ve also seen other movies with mick and I really think he is a bad actor - but to be fair he was not that bad on "performance" and I really liked the movie "bent" which I only watched because of Mick - didn´t like mick´s acting either- but did think the film had a very strong emotional message......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-25 00:04 by ThroughTheLonelyNights.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: October 25, 2006 00:15

Interesting. Mick was born to be the lead singer of the ROLLING STONES.
As a cultural icon Mick is one of the BIGGEST!! No doubt.

And even with all of the b*tt kissers & "yes" men he's been surrounded by for the last 45 years, he still seems somewhat down to earth (see documentary BEING MICK).

However, sometimes I do think Mick gets himself in over his head when it comes to acting. He's terrible! FreeJack (and other movie appearances)? (cringe)
He was probably best as himself in the RUTLES movie.

Sometimes I wonder if he does the acting simply on a lark...because he's Mick Jagger and can do whatever he wants...for fun.....not because he thinks he has any real acting talent.

Anybody remember when Ol' Marble Mouth could barely utter "Live from New York it's Saturday Night!" (after doing an opening skit w/Jon Lovitz)? His voice shook...he looked scared.

I'll say it again..Mick was born to be one thing...singer for the Stones. Thankfully.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 25, 2006 00:17

Hey cant believe no one has mentioned FREEJACK....



ROCKMAN

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: October 25, 2006 00:18

i just mentioned it in the previous post. maybe he just wanted to meet Emilio Estevez winking smiley

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Halup ()
Date: October 25, 2006 00:19

I thought Mick, along with Michael Des Barres, did a very good job in The Man From Elysian Fields.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: soundcheck ()
Date: October 25, 2006 05:06

.. elysian fields was a good one....... and what about him missin' out on 'clockwork orange', the rights to the movie???... that could of been a very good vehicle for him at that period of time, but as it is, its a classic..

was 'performance' acting???

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Jumpin'JackFrash ()
Date: October 25, 2006 05:16

I think Keith said it best in an interview:

"The best acting I've seen Mick do is with The Rolling Stones."

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: boston2006 ()
Date: October 25, 2006 05:26

like his solo stuff

sucks as an actor though

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: October 25, 2006 11:53

Yeah but Clockwork would not have worked with Mick, but it would have been an interesting underground rock film if Brian Mick and Keith had done it. But just Mick would have been boring. And it would never have been a great film classic, just another cool Stones video.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: October 25, 2006 12:06

Wasn't Mick in a film called "Mikado" too? There's this hilarious pic of him in Bill's book where he has this long chinese mustache.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: October 25, 2006 12:11

Thats from a US cable TV showing of "The Nightingale" (a version of 'The Mikado' I believe) aired on "Children's Fairie Tale Theatre" in 1983.

They actually showed this a short time later on Channel 4 in the UK. I have a tape of it lying around somewhere gathering dust. It's hilariously cringeworthy

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: October 25, 2006 12:18

I bet it is. Mick as an Asian. Could it be any worse?
Let's not forget Bowie in The Labyrinth either. He sucked, but I quite liked the movie when I was a kid.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Lumi ()
Date: October 25, 2006 12:57

Bowie as Jareth in Labyrinth was my very first rock 'n' roll crash at age 6 grinning smiley I've been hooked to that film ever since. They don't make 'em like they used to!

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: October 25, 2006 13:07

Lumi Wrote:
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> Bowie as Jareth in Labyrinth was my very first
> rock 'n' roll crash at age 6 grinning smiley I've been hooked
> to that film ever since. They don't make 'em like
> they used to!


If you like Jim Henson then look out for the new Fraggle Rock movie made by Frank Zappa's son. It's gonna be out in a year or two.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Lumi ()
Date: October 25, 2006 13:24

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> If you like Jim Henson then look out for the new
> Fraggle Rock movie made by Frank Zappa's son. It's
> gonna be out in a year or two.

Thanks! I'll keep an eye for it.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: MononoM ()
Date: October 25, 2006 13:35

I still do like Freejack.. not a very great movie, but i think the character (the evil guy tongue sticking out smiley) Mick is playing perfectly fits smiling smiley

-Menno

Life's just a cocktail party on the street

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Mack Jigger ()
Date: October 25, 2006 14:45

Gazza Wrote:
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> Thats from a US cable TV showing of "The
> Nightingale" (a version of 'The Mikado' I believe)
> aired on "Children's Fairie Tale Theatre" in
> 1983.

It's actually for sale on DVD at amazon.com if you like to torture yourself.


But I agree with Halup, he was ok in "The Man from Elysian Fields".

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: October 25, 2006 20:38

Mick without the Stones...
I thought you meant Mick Taylor, and I could not think of any movies he'd acted in for the life of me.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: October 25, 2006 21:15

Mick as an actor:
1.)Performance...great playing a marginally darker version of himself
2.)Ned Kelly...terribly miscast
3.)The Nightingale...wooden (but Faerie Tale Theatre was a kids show made by coke addicts so I didn't expect much)
4.)Running Out of Luck...at times, hilariously funny...at other times, cringeworthy
5.)Freejack...terribly stiff...gives the impression he just stepped off the Steel Wheels concert stage without changing clothes and read his lines off of cue cards without having ever seen the script.
6.)The Man From Elysian Fields...surprisingly effective. His best role yet for those I've seen.
7.)He was horribly stiff and unfunny in that sitcom pilot that got shelved till next year.

Mick as a solo artist (the part of the thread everyone ignored):
1.)She's the Boss...horribly contrived...his worst career step since Satanic Majesties.
2.)Primitive Cool...strong album apart from the dreadful first single. Superior to Undercover and Dirty Work. An unappreciated gem.
3.)Wandering Spirit...excellent album. Would have made for a classic Stones album. It still rivals Voodoo Lounge. Went a long way in erasing the impression that Keith is the Stones.
4.)Goddess in the Doorway...at times as contrived as She's the Boss, but with some strong songs. Thematically, the roots of A Bigger Bang can be found here. Major identity crisis as Jagger is unclear if he's making a quiet, introspective acoustic record or an overly commercial pop album with too many guests and collaborators. In retrospect, probably the only album that could be made after Bridges to Babylon (which I love).
5.)Alfie...essentially only four real songs masquerading as a soundtrack. Old Habits Die Hard is excellent and should have been on Goddess in the Doorway. The Blind Leading the Blind is pretty good. Let's Make It Up is as bland as some of the weaker GITD tracks and Lonely Without You is such a cliche-ridden rewrite of Merry Christmas, Baby it could have been on a latterday Aaron Neville album.

Re: Mick without the Stones - solo and as an actor
Posted by: Glam Descendant ()
Date: October 25, 2006 22:15

>and they showed the same scene played by Kinsky

Wrong. Kinski did not play the role Mick was cast to play. Kinski replaced Jason Robards; Mick's role was omitted from the completed film.



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