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They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Midnight Toker ()
Date: October 4, 2006 20:08

IORR,PIB as openers? Not so good. SMU,JJF,BS are worn out as openers. Any thoughts???

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: canadian.sway ()
Date: October 4, 2006 20:13

if gimmie shelter were to be used they would have to have a different intro.
they use the big bang explosion sound, and then come out to a song that has a noticible loud riff, ie- satisfaction, JJF, start me up, iorr etc.
gimmie shelter simmers in, and it would have to be a build up, the explosion thing wouldn't work.
could be a great opener, but would require a lot from the band to change.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: stonesfan70 ()
Date: October 4, 2006 20:27

That's assuming Keith can even still play the Gimme Shelter intro. It was painful to watch him play it in Baltimore earlier this year.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Esperola ()
Date: October 4, 2006 20:27

Gimmie Shelter is in TOP 3 of my favourite Stones songs but I think it would not be a good opener.

"Rape, murder, it's just a shot away..."

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: October 4, 2006 21:39

OPEN WITH SYMPATHY!

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: October 4, 2006 21:40

canadian.sway Wrote:
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> if gimmie shelter were to be used they would have
> to have a different intro.
> they use the big bang explosion sound, and then
> come out to a song that has a noticible loud riff,
> ie- satisfaction, JJF, start me up, iorr etc.
> gimmie shelter simmers in, and it would have to be
> a build up, the explosion thing wouldn't work.
> could be a great opener, but would require a lot
> from the band to change.


the canadian is right

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: tattoome ()
Date: October 4, 2006 21:43

how about opener sympathy...., than gimme shelter???

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: October 4, 2006 21:50

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL
GIMME SHELTER
PAINT IT BLACK
BREAK THE SPELL
BACK OF MY HAND

oooo, that's a spooky opening 5 very ominous numbers for these dark times - that would be a very cool idea....GET THIS OVER TO CHUCK RIGHT NOW !!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-04 21:53 by MicksBrain.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:03

Never thought of that. Sympathy would work very well.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: MicknSteven ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:11

Sympathy would be Amazing!

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:12

yeah actually Sympathy would be perfect. The pleased to meet you n' all....fire etc....that'll wake the crowd up.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: micwer ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:21

Opening with Gimme Shelter has my vote.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:25

They need to pick a song not used as an opener before and stick with it, it kinda defines a tour...

JJF '69/'70
BS - '72/'73
HTW - 75'/'76
LET IT ROCK - '78
UNDER MY THUMB - '81/'82
SMU - '89/'90
NOT FADE AWAY - '94/'95
SATISFACTION - '97/'98
JJF - '99

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: lucasvm ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:29

Tumbling Dice would be a good opener...

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:35

lucasvm Wrote:
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> Tumbling Dice would be a good opener...

Yeah, "open" the trash can and slide it right in (not forgetting MISS YOU and IORR)..... They opened MTV's 10 spot with TD, it's too sluggish IMHO....

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Chas ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:38

Sympathy!...yes

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:39

I like the idea of Sympathy, the crowd really gets into that one.

Wasn't looking too good, but I was feeling real well.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: October 4, 2006 22:43

I always thought Mother's Little Helper would be a cool opener, with Mick taking the stage and singing those opening lyrics.

Also The Last Time would work pretty well. Too many of their 60s songs seem to be forgotten and everyone would know many of the songs. I thought Not Fade Away was a very interesting idea for the opener in 94/95 and was a very unique and different tempo to start the show.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: goinhome ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:07

I think Sympathy would be a great opener if they reworked it to sound more like the Ya'Ya's version with Keith hitting the E-D-A-E on his guitar right from the get-go. I feel that the recent version opening with Charlie and Chuck has gotten old.

I think Gimmee Shelter would be cool, too. The GS Second night Buenos Aires this February was amazing! Better than the versions on previous recent tours by far, in my opinion.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Date: October 4, 2006 23:25

I'd vote for Street Fighting Man or Undercover.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:29

Hound Dog Wrote:
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I always thought Mother's Little Helper would be a cool opener, with Mick taking the stage and singing those opening lyrics.


Hound Dog - they wouldn't do that one. Think of how the press would jump all over the "what a drag it is getting old" line. The Stones get enough flack about their age without having to bring it their attention, why set them up with an easy joke.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:30

As long as I'm in the audience, they can do any song as an opener.
Apart from Row Row Row Your Boat.
If I could choose...Hot Stuff or One Hit.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:38

Cindy I see your point but Jagger has made references about his age in other songs they still do. Wouldn't think they would not play a song just because of what the press may say.

I think Mother's Little Helper is just another tune from a big group of 60s hits that they have either never played or not done since the mid-60s. Think about how many songs they have on various greatest hits albums that they have either never done live or haven't done in over 38 years, pretty crazy.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:43

SFTD won't happen as an opener. Not unless they shorten it, which they wouldn't do. They don't open (Sydney theater show '03 notwithstanding) with their longer tunes. And, it makes me gag to think that a Stones show would open with an electronic drum. Pee Yoo.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: October 4, 2006 23:48

they need to open with Star Star. It's got the licks, and it's the right tempo for an opener.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: October 5, 2006 01:03

Let the BRAIN address these suggestions:

ONE HIT - a GREAT song but from the few versions I've heard from '89 (Toronto Pro shoot Video for one) it seems like one or more of the boys has troble keeping time with their Guitar. On the Toronto tape I think Keith comes in late with the loud electric. IOW, it takes them a good 20 - 30 seconds to get in sync. That's probably why you never hear it now.

MOTHERS LITTLE HELPER - yeah, the "old" reference would open the door to a million "clever" headlines. They could change it to "What a drag it is not being bold" in reference to how safe they've played it with this tour's set list. How about "What a drag all the tickets haven't sold". Would love to hear it myself so I "feel your pain" Glad they did CLOUD, AS TEARS GO BY, and PAINT IT BLACK on this tour

HOT STUFF and STAR STAR, hmm , just DO NOT seem like openers to me at all.The singing comes in way to soon on STAR STAR.

STREET FIGHTING MAN would be alright IMHO.

UNDERCOVER sounds like a good 2nd or 3rd song. Worked well as #4 on the 1989 tour

EMPTY HEART - Jackpot, played like IF YOU CAN'T ROCK ME (which would be another good opener.)

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 5, 2006 01:06

Fireworks KABOOM!!!... Then Lady Jane....that'd toss everyone....!!!



ROCKMAN

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 5, 2006 01:17

StonesTod Wrote:
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. And, it makes me gag to
> think that a Stones show would open with an
> electronic drum. Pee Yoo.


well, hold on there, didnt Not Fade Away have a taped intro?

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 5, 2006 01:21

ryanpow Wrote:
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> StonesTod Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> . And, it makes me gag to
> > think that a Stones show would open with an
> > electronic drum. Pee Yoo.
>
>
> well, hold on there, didnt Not Fade Away have a
> taped intro?

Never quite sure if there were electronic drums preceding Charlie coming in there - in either event, I never thought NFA worked very well as a opener. Good in theory, bad in execution. The guitars were a mess.

Re: They Should Open With Gimme Shelter
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 5, 2006 01:29

I never went to a VL show, i just remember from the video and I havent seen it a long time. I liked the Stripped version though.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-05 01:29 by ryanpow.

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