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Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 14:05

Can somebody tell me:

in which position it is played

what effects ronnie was using

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: September 29, 2006 15:32

if you are an good guitar player you can hear it from the record how it should be played. unfortunately I am not a great guitar player so I cannot help you.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 16:23

Actually it is not difficult to find the notes and to play them.

What I can't get is the sound.

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Greg ()
Date: September 29, 2006 16:40

liddas, are you sure Ronnie plays the theme? I always thought it was Keith.

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"Shit!... No shit, awright!"

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 16:59

Greg Wrote:
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> liddas, are you sure Ronnie plays the theme? I
> always thought it was Keith.


No, I am not sure. I have not seen the Let's Spend the night video in ages. But I think it's ronnie on the 2006 version on you tube, so I guess it was him in 81 too!

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Greg ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:10

Just checled Hampton on my MP3 player. It's definitely Keith. Unless Ronnie played the solo in 81 as well... ;-)

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"Music is the frozen tapioca in the ice chest of history."

"Shit!... No shit, awright!"

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:24

Found it!





The pc has a truly crap speaker, but ain't the riff going on during keith's solo or is that just the bass? Anyway it looks like it was keith

If so, no effects I guess!

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:41

the best intro riff for this song is actually on LSTNT movie, amazing !
If I remember it was in phoenix 81 sun devil

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Greg ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:48

It's Mac taking over the riff from Keith. And I hear Bill playing with it or parts of it as well.
Hey, what other rock band shares themes like that: they're the finest virtuoso chamber musicians!

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"Music is the frozen tapioca in the ice chest of history."

"Shit!... No shit, awright!"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-09-29 17:49 by Greg.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: bruno ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:49

On the 81-82 version and if I'm not wrong, Keith starts playing the riff, but when he's playing the solo, Wood takes the duties on this department. It used to be a good example of the infamous weaving

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Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:50

The chords are descending Em-D-C, so I would guess starting at the 7th position, to the 5th to the 3rd. Play the riff on the A and D string. I don't know if the 81/82 version is in the same key, though.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Gecko ()
Date: September 29, 2006 17:53

First of all, it's Keith that plays the riff in the beginnning and after the vocals kick in Ron takes over.

Second, Koen is right, although you have to use the G string too or you just need to have really big hands.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 18:30

Koen Wrote:
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> The chords are descending Em-D-C, so I would guess
> starting at the 7th position, to the 5th to the
> 3rd. Play the riff on the A and D string. I don't
> know if the 81/82 version is in the same key,
> though.

I play it in F# min, E, D. Quite sure it is done this way.

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: September 29, 2006 19:16

Yep. F#M to get the right chord inversions and the right vibe throughout the verse and chorus parts.

Folks are often asking how to get the guitar parts to sound right when they cop stones songs. Very often they don't sound right because the two guitars are required to give the overall picture. A lot of parts in isolation can sound plain wrong ! It's part of what makes the Stones guitar partnerships so interesting.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 29, 2006 20:04

Spud Wrote:
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> Folks are often asking how to get the guitar parts
> to sound right when they cop stones songs. Very
> often they don't sound right because the two
> guitars are required to give the overall picture.
> A lot of parts in isolation can sound plain wrong
> ! It's part of what makes the Stones guitar
> partnerships so interesting.

This is Holy Bible truth!!!

C

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: September 29, 2006 20:29

Start at the 9th fret, 5th string for the F#m. Then 7th fret for the E. Then 5th fret for the D (twice).

String - Fret
F#m
5-9
4-7
4-9
4-11
5-9
5-9

E
5-7
4-6
4-7
4-9
5-7
5-7

D (play twice)
5-5
4-4
4-5
4-7
5-5
5-5

Start each lick with the middle finger on the 5th string.

Add the soul chops (upstrokes on the high E and B strings, using the F#m - E - D barre chords at the 9th, 7th, and 5th frets.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: soundcheck ()
Date: September 30, 2006 09:37

.....then sprinkle with salt, garlic and equator pepper ,,,,, an cook.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 30, 2006 13:23

The sound is easy: take a '72 Custom, flip the switch in the middle possition and crank that Boogie Mark IIB 300 watt Coloseum amp way high through an Elctrovoice EVL12 equipped 4*12 cabinet. For the solo (in A pentatonic major), flip to the bridge pickup and use a volume booster to hit he pre-amp a little harder.

Of course, also use large amounts of cocaine, and only drink Jack Daniels.

Mathijs

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: September 30, 2006 14:35

I must be getting better as Mathijs didn't correct my poor attempt at a tab. winking smiley

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: GShelter ()
Date: September 30, 2006 17:48

Mathijs Wrote:
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> The sound is easy: take a '72 Custom, flip the
> switch in the middle possition and crank that
> Boogie Mark IIB 300 watt Coloseum amp way high
> through an Elctrovoice EVL12 equipped 4*12
> cabinet. For the solo (in A pentatonic major),
> flip to the bridge pickup and use a volume booster
> to hit he pre-amp a little harder.
>
> Of course, also use large amounts of cocaine, and
> only drink Jack Daniels.
>
> Mathijs

OH BROTHER!! I totally disagree. First of all any tele would do. Also use the 1st position toggle swith and go through a Twin with JBLs. Use a MXR + for ditrtion and boast. For the solo use D diatonic. This mathijs guy has no idea. I think he just makes crap up from what I've read. I think he is on coke and JD all the tie from what he writes.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-09-30 17:53 by GShelter.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 30, 2006 20:20

GShelter Wrote:
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> Mathijs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The sound is easy: take a '72 Custom, flip the
> > switch in the middle possition and crank that
> > Boogie Mark IIB 300 watt Coloseum amp way high
> > through an Elctrovoice EVL12 equipped 4*12
> > cabinet. For the solo (in A pentatonic major),
> > flip to the bridge pickup and use a volume
> booster
> > to hit he pre-amp a little harder.
> >
> > Of course, also use large amounts of cocaine,
> and
> > only drink Jack Daniels.
> >
> > Mathijs
>
> OH BROTHER!! I totally disagree. First of all any
> tele would do. Also use the 1st position toggle
> swith and go through a Twin with JBLs. Use a MXR +
> for ditrtion and boast. For the solo use D
> diatonic. This mathijs guy has no idea. I think he
> just makes crap up from what I've read. I think he
> is on coke and JD all the tie from what he writes.

uh....I described what Keith actually used himself on the 1981 tour....

Mathijs
ps the solo is in A, not D. ApentMajor is about the same as F#m, the key of the song.

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: GShelter ()
Date: September 30, 2006 22:45

yeah right

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Date: September 30, 2006 22:55

It's actually Brian Jones xylophone overdub recording during the show and the boys synch to it.
;-)

Re: Under My Thumb 81/82 - the riff
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 1, 2006 00:53

GShelter Wrote:
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> yeah right

Yes. I am very sorry to have informed you with all this correct information.

Mathijs



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