With a show from the Filmore in '70. Sounds well worth checking out. Here's the link to the article: [www.billboard.com]

ohnonotyouagain Wrote:
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> With a show from the Filmore in '70. Sounds well
> worth checking out. Here's the link to the
> article:
> [www.billboard.com]
> y.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003155579


once again...........are u watching Stones?

Wow great news, can't wait to hear this..

Dylan's Bootleg Series, Neil's Live Archives Series...

If only the Stones read this Forum...

[There'll be no wedding today...]

good to hear - though I think this one's been circulating as a roio for some time....

If anyone comes accross CSNY boot form this past August 22, Tuesday 2006. Let me know, I'll trade a few of my Stones or whatever for it.
I was there.
Great show.
I have dial-up and cannot download!!

Leonard Keringer Wrote:
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> ohnonotyouagain Wrote:
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> > With a show from the Filmore in '70. Sounds
> well
> > worth checking out. Here's the link to the
> > article:
> >
> [www.billboard.com]
>
> > y.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003155579
>
>
> once again...........are u watching
> Stones?


Hmmmmmm...


He's right there with the Stones for me and the 1970 Fillmore shows are the Neil equivalent of, say, the Stones at Leeds in '71.

I SHOULD be super excited about this.

Except that they decided not to include any of the acoustic sets. Nothing. No "Broken Arrow," no "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing," no "Helpless." No "Expecting To Fly!"

Then they decided not to present all the songs performed electric with the Horse. From what I understand, "Cinnamon Girl" (with Jack Nitzsche on electric piano) is what will be dumped.

So, what we're left with is a six-song sampling of the electric sets. Plus a DVD with a version of the CD in Super High-Res and a bunch of photos and "liner" notes that one can read off a TV or a computer.

This could have been right there with Dylan's "Live 1966" and it will instead be a strange half-assed snapshot with great bells and whistles attached.

Maybe we should hope that the Stones are NOT watching...

I bet it will be delayed. I hope they (NYA) are released but this seems to be an ongoing joke by Neil. The archives have been promised for years. Maybe its real this time. I hope so but don't hold your breath.

Given Neil's past history with these sort of things I'll believe when I see it. Still, it's exciting news. Mick, Keith, take notice and follw suite!

or suit. or are you implying they should have a suite of releases?

Neil the squeal...

JR

Guess I'll have to keep cranking "Year Of The Horse" and "Road Kill Vol 1" and the TV Springfield stuff on "Journey Through the Past"
(Actually Time Fades Away is one unique live album - will it ever appear on cd and why not? One of my top 3 or 4 NY albums)

john r Wrote:
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> Guess I'll have to keep cranking "Year Of The
> Horse" and "Road Kill Vol 1" and the TV
> Springfield stuff on "Journey Through the Past"
> (Actually Time Fades Away is one unique live album
> - will it ever appear on cd and why not? One of my
> top 3 or 4 NY albums)


No idea why "TIme Fades Away" hasn't come out on CD. An HDCD version was prepared and promo copies sent out to rado stations and some stores, (hence the proliferation of perfect bootleg/pirate copies circulating), but for reasons best known to the man himself it's still unreleased.

I'm now patiently waiting for the definitive version of "Ordinary People" to get a release ....

One of the most popular Neil boots which is the live show from LA in 1971, somewhere on the UCLA campus I think, still hasn't been released. That is just plain silly because this is the "Live 1966" for Neil imho.

It's sad to hear that Neil isn't releasing a full Crazy Horse show from 1970. No point in buying this one--I'll just wait until it shows up at the library.

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Ageree about waiting on Neils treasure trove for the past 20 years or so, I do have Time Fades on vinyl but must handle it SO carefully...I still havent got over missing out on Rhino's VERY ltd edition (instant sellout) of Crazy Horse "Scratchy - Complete Reprise Recordings" box with allsorts of outtakes and other goodies (Neil's on much of their '71 debut for those who don't know, and Nitzsche and Ry and Nils too)...Just ordered the Rockets (pre-Crazy Horse) cd, originally on White Whale from around '67. D. Whitten & the rhythm section plus the hiterto unkown to me Whitsell brothers who showed up on that (less exciting) 2nd Horse album, "Loose," before disappearing into the rock and roll black hole once again, that time 4-evah.

Nikolai Wrote:
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> I'm now patiently waiting for the definitive
> version of "Ordinary People" to get a release ....

Yes, great song!

cc Wrote:
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> Nikolai Wrote:
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> >
> > I'm now patiently waiting for the definitive
> > version of "Ordinary People" to get a release
> ....
>
> Yes, great song!


Indeed. Neil's pretty fookin boring now though. I've hated the last three albums - apart from Bandit, which was a gem in a turd.

cc Wrote:
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> Nikolai Wrote:
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> >
> > I'm now patiently waiting for the definitive
> > version of "Ordinary People" to get a release
> ....
>
> Yes, great song!



"Ordinary People" is wonderful. I'd also like a good version of the full "Sixty to Zero".

Nikolai Wrote:
> I'm now patiently waiting for the definitive
> version of "Ordinary People" to get a release ....



Hopefully its a live version with the Bluenotes. The one from 1988 on that "Archives be damned" bootleg 5-CD set is incredible. One of the best things hes EVER done. Released or otherwise.

In a dusty town
a clock struck high noon,
Two men stood face to face.
One wore black and one wore white,
But of fear there wasn't a trace.
Two hundred years later
two hot rods drag race
through the very same place,
And a half a million people,
moved in to pick up the pace.
A factory full of people,
Makin' parts to go to outer space.
A train load of people,
They were aimin' for another place.
Out of town people.

There's a man in the window
with a big cigar,
Says everything's for sale.
The house and the boat
and the railroad car.
The owner's gotta go to jail.
He acquired these things
from a life of crime,
Now he's selling them
to raise his bail.
He was rippin' off the people.
Sellin' guns to the underground.
Tryin' to help the people,
Lose their ass
for a piece of ground.
Rippin' off the people.
Skimmin' the top when
there was no one around.
Tryin' to help the people.

He was dealing antiques
in a hardware store,
But he sure had a lot to hide.
He had a backroom full
of the guns of war,
And a ton of ammunition besides.
Well, he walked with a cane,
Kept a bolt on the door
with five pit bulls inside.
Just a warning to the people,
Who might try to break in at night.
Protection from the people,
Selling safety
in the darkest night.
Tryin' to help the people.
Get the drugs
to the street all right.
Ordinary people.

Well, it's hard to say
where a man goes wrong,
Might be here
and it might be there.
What starts out weak
might get too strong,
If you can't tell foul from fair.
But it's hard to judge
from an angry throng,
Of hands stretched into the air.
The vigilante people.
Takin' law into their own hands.
Conscientious people.
Crackin' down on
the druglord's land.
Government people.
Confiscatin' all
the dealer's land.
Patch-of-ground people.

Down at the factory,
they're puttin' new windows in.
The vandals made a mess of things,
And the homeless
just walked right in.
Well, they worked here once,
and they live here now,
But they might work here again,
They're ordinary people.
And they're livin' in a nightmare.
Hard workin' people.
And they don't know
how they got there.
Ordinary people.
And they think that you don't care.
Hard workin' people.

Down on the assembly line,
they keep puttin'
the same thing out.
But the people today,
they just ain't buyin'.
Nobody can figure it out.
Well, they try like hell
to build a quality end,
They're workin' hard
without a doubt,
They're ordinary people.
And the dollar's
what it's all about.
Hard workin' people.
But the customers are walkin' out.
Lee Iacocca people.
Yeah, they look
but they just don't buy.
Hard workin' people.

Two out of work models
and a fashion slave,
Try to dance away
the Michelob night.
The bartender poured
himself another drink,
While two drunks sat
watchin' the fight.
The champ went down,
then he got up again,
And then he went out like a light.
He was fightin' for the people,
But his timing wasn't right.
For Las Vegas people,
Who came to see a Las Vegas fight.
High rollin' people,
Takin' limos
though the neon night.
Fightin' for the people.

And then a new Rolls Royce
and a company car,
They went flyin' down the street.
Each one tryin'
to make it to the gate,
Before employees manned the fleet.
The trucks full of products
for the modern home,
Set to roll out into the street,
Of downtown people,
Tryin' to make their way to work.
Nose-to-the-stone people,
Some are saints, and some are jerks.
Hard workin' people,
Stoppin' for a drink
on the way to work.
Alcoholic people,
Yeah, they're takin' it
one day, one day at a time.

Out on the railroad track,
they're cleanin' up number 9.
They're scrubbin' the boiler down,
well, she really is lookin' fine.
Ah, she's lookin' so good,
they're gonna
bring her back on line.
Ordinary people.
They're gonna bring
the good things back.
Nose-to-the stone people.
Put the business back on track.
Ordinary people,
I got faith in the regular kind.
Hard workin' people.
Patch-of-ground people.

StonesTod Wrote:
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> or suit. or are you implying they should have a
> suite of releases?


Damn spelling police! You got me Tod. I'll write it correctly 100 times on the black board.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-09-24 05:59 by ChrisM.

Rialb Wrote:
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> In a dusty town
> a clock struck high noon,
> Two men stood face to face.
> One wore black and one wore white,
> But of fear there wasn't a trace.
> Two hundred years later
> two hot rods drag race
> through the very same place,
> And a half a million people,
> moved in to pick up the pace.
> A factory full of people,
> Makin' parts to go to outer space.
> A train load of people,
> They were aimin' for another place.
> Out of town people.
>
> There's a man in the window
> with a big cigar,
> Says everything's for sale.
> The house and the boat
> and the railroad car.
> The owner's gotta go to jail.
> He acquired these things
> from a life of crime,
> Now he's selling them
> to raise his bail.
> He was rippin' off the people.
> Sellin' guns to the underground.
> Tryin' to help the people,
> Lose their ass
> for a piece of ground.
> Rippin' off the people.
> Skimmin' the top when
> there was no one around.
> Tryin' to help the people.
>
> He was dealing antiques
> in a hardware store,
> But he sure had a lot to hide.
> He had a backroom full
> of the guns of war,
> And a ton of ammunition besides.
> Well, he walked with a cane,
> Kept a bolt on the door
> with five pit bulls inside.
> Just a warning to the people,
> Who might try to break in at night.
> Protection from the people,
> Selling safety
> in the darkest night.
> Tryin' to help the people.
> Get the drugs
> to the street all right.
> Ordinary people.
>
> Well, it's hard to say
> where a man goes wrong,
> Might be here
> and it might be there.
> What starts out weak
> might get too strong,
> If you can't tell foul from fair.
> But it's hard to judge
> from an angry throng,
> Of hands stretched into the air.
> The vigilante people.
> Takin' law into their own hands.
> Conscientious people.
> Crackin' down on
> the druglord's land.
> Government people.
> Confiscatin' all
> the dealer's land.
> Patch-of-ground people.
>
> Down at the factory,
> they're puttin' new windows in.
> The vandals made a mess of things,
> And the homeless
> just walked right in.
> Well, they worked here once,
> and they live here now,
> But they might work here again,
> They're ordinary people.
> And they're livin' in a nightmare.
> Hard workin' people.
> And they don't know
> how they got there.
> Ordinary people.
> And they think that you don't care.
> Hard workin' people.
>
> Down on the assembly line,
> they keep puttin'
> the same thing out.
> But the people today,
> they just ain't buyin'.
> Nobody can figure it out.
> Well, they try like hell
> to build a quality end,
> They're workin' hard
> without a doubt,
> They're ordinary people.
> And the dollar's
> what it's all about.
> Hard workin' people.
> But the customers are walkin' out.
> Lee Iacocca people.
> Yeah, they look
> but they just don't buy.
> Hard workin' people.
>
> Two out of work models
> and a fashion slave,
> Try to dance away
> the Michelob night.
> The bartender poured
> himself another drink,
> While two drunks sat
> watchin' the fight.
> The champ went down,
> then he got up again,
> And then he went out like a light.
> He was fightin' for the people,
> But his timing wasn't right.
> For Las Vegas people,
> Who came to see a Las Vegas fight.
> High rollin' people,
> Takin' limos
> though the neon night.
> Fightin' for the people.
>
> And then a new Rolls Royce
> and a company car,
> They went flyin' down the street.
> Each one tryin'
> to make it to the gate,
> Before employees manned the fleet.
> The trucks full of products
> for the modern home,
> Set to roll out into the street,
> Of downtown people,
> Tryin' to make their way to work.
> Nose-to-the-stone people,
> Some are saints, and some are jerks.
> Hard workin' people,
> Stoppin' for a drink
> on the way to work.
> Alcoholic people,
> Yeah, they're takin' it
> one day, one day at a time.
>
> Out on the railroad track,
> they're cleanin' up number 9.
> They're scrubbin' the boiler down,
> well, she really is lookin' fine.
> Ah, she's lookin' so good,
> they're gonna
> bring her back on line.
> Ordinary people.
> They're gonna bring
> the good things back.
> Nose-to-the stone people.
> Put the business back on track.
> Ordinary people,
> I got faith in the regular kind.
> Hard workin' people.
> Patch-of-ground people.

I've never heard that song but I like the lyrics. There sure are alot of them, aren't there? I've never seen that many lyrics in one song before, that's pretty cool. How long is this song, anyway?

About 12:30. Great song.

What happened to the 12CD box set with DVDs?

Looked on Saturday and couldn't find any news of the Fillmore release on the official website. Must look again.