The stones should do the same in Europe....

It\'s official! At last we can confirm the rescheduled Vertigo//2006 shows. U2 will hit the road again in November. Starting in Brisbane on November 7th , U2 will play further dates in Australia, New Zealand and Japan before finishing in Hawaii on December 9. Kanye West will join the band in Australia and New Zealand while Special Guests, Pearl Jam will join Rocco and the Devils for December 9 in Honolulu.
These show dates are rescheduled following the postponement of Vertigo//2006 earlier in the year. For full ticket information in your area please see below. “We are very happy to announce the rescheduling and appreciate everyone’s patience.” said Arthur Fogel, of TNA.

The Vertigo Tour opened in San Diego in March 2005, is set for a grand finish in Hawaii with the addition of Pearl Jam. “It’s going to be a great night in Hawaii,” said Paul McGuinness, U2’s manager. “The band are really pleased Pearl Jam could join the bill, a great end to what has already been a very successful tour.”

The new show dates are as follows:

* Auckland - Ericsson Stadium - (Old Date) Friday, March 17th/06 - (New Date) Friday, November 24/06
* Auckland - Ericsson Stadium - (Old Date) Saturday, March 18th/06 - (New Date) Saturday, November 25/06
* Brisbane - QSAC Stadium - (Old Date) Tuesday, March 21st/06 - (New Date) Tuesday, November 7/06
* Melbourne - Telstra Dome - (Old Date) Friday, March 24th/06 - (New Date) Saturday, November 18/06
* Melbourne - Telstra Dome - (Old Date) Saturday, March 25th/06 - (New Date) Sunday, November 19/06
* Adelaide - AAMI Stadium - (Old Date) Tuesday, March 28th/06 - (New Date) Thursday, November 16/06
* Sydney - Telstra Stadium - (Old Date) Friday, March 31st/06 - (New Date) Friday, November 10/06
* Sydney - Telstra Stadium - (Old Date) Saturday, April 1st/06 - (New Date) Saturday, November 11/06
* Honolulu - Aloha Stadium - (Old Date) Saturday, April 8/06 - (New Date) Saturday, December 9/06

In Tokyo, 3 New Show Dates have been confirmed

* Tokyo - Saitama Super Arena - Wednesday, November 29th/06
* Tokyo - Saitama Super Arena - Thursday, November 30th/06
* Tokyo - Saitama Super Arena - Monday, December 4th/06

WTF?

go home hewson!

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> WTF?
>
> go home hewson!

what?

This is what you should do when you have postponed the shows, so what do you mean??
Read what the statment says.....

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> WTF?
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yeah - imagine rescheduling a few shows that you postponed at short notice almost a year earlier. How inconsiderate and uncool!

Are you asking for Kayne West as an opening act?

The Stones should do like U2:

- 4 guys on stage only
- 50% playback
- 20% political statements

May be.. Or may be not?

Bjornulf

bv Wrote:
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> The Stones should do like U2:
>
> - 4 guys on stage only
> - 50% playback
> - 20% political statements
>
> May be.. Or may be not?

or mayby they should play the canceled shows in Europe insted of sprinting back to US...
Or mayby not...

BV is wrong. U2 is 3 guys an 1 Boner..... :-D

JumpingKentFlash

bv Wrote:
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> The Stones should do like U2:
>
> - 4 guys on stage only
> - 50% playback
> - 20% political statements
>
> May be.. Or may be not?




you must have been at a different show to me, regarding the last two statements!


Is honouring your obligations to ticket holders really something that should be scorned? or disregarded? bash them or their music all you like (its irrelevant to the topic), at least theyre honouring their commitments, and thats undeniable



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Mind you U2 cancelled their entire Australia and NZ tour this spring. They just wiped them out. Because of private reasons no more info. Then half a year later they have news. Wait half a year and I am sure the Stones will announce a lot ofr - may be 40 - shows in Europe. Many stadium, and a large free show in a selected place like the Copacabana one. If they are still around. And wait another 20 years and see how much there is left of U2.

PS. I have the deepest respect for The Edge and his reasons for not touring. Point is a lot of fans just demand they do not respect the bands and the members of the bands they love. seems like people forget U2 did not give any info either. Not even a coconut story.

Bjornulf



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Why do we always bash on U2.
They are a nice band, have great songs and they are the only band that is up with the Stones in terms of popularity and money.
I like U2, maybe not all of Bono's stuff.

Hanns Rainsch Wrote:
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> Why do we always bash on U2.
> They are a nice band, have great songs and they
> are the only band that is up with the Stones in
> terms of popularity and money.

you just answered your own question!

bv Wrote:
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> Mind you U2 cancelled their entire Australia and
> NZ tour this spring. They just wiped them out.
> Because of private reasons no more info. Then half
> a year later they have news. Wait half a year and
> I am sure the Stones will announce a lot ofr - may
> be 40 - shows in Europe. Many stadium, and a large
> free show in a selected place like the Copacabana
> one. If they are still around. And wait another 20
> years and see how much there is left of U2.
>
> PS. I have the deepest respect for The Edge and
> his reasons for not touring. Point is a lot of
> fans just demand they do not respect the bands and
> the members of the bands they love. seems like
> people forget U2 did not give any info either. Not
> even a coconut story.

I hope your right, I'm just pissed that they cancelled the Gothenburg show, so I hope they will come back....

I like U2. But I get bored when they do all their talking about whatever in-between shows. I like politics in it's own time frame and rock'n'roll when I go to concerts. You can't compare the Stones and U2 because U2 is a much younger band, they are only 4, they don't use backup musicians, they have probably never been in jail, they have a nice little story but they are not really sex drugs and rock'n'roll.

Bjornulf

bv Wrote:
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You can't compare the
> Stones and U2 because U2 is a much younger band,
> they are only 4, they don't use backup musicians,
> they have probably never been in jail, they have a
> nice little story but they are not really sex
> drugs and rock'n'roll.

"you can't compare them," you say, and then you proceed to do just that.

Hanns Rainsch Wrote:
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> Why do we always bash on U2.
> They are a nice band, have great songs and they
> are the only band that is up with the Stones in
> terms of popularity and money.
> I like U2, maybe not all of Bono's stuff.


I don't like U2.
They don't have good songs. It's 100% rainbow hugger.
They are as popular, if not more popula than the Stones, but that doesn't mean that it's good.
Everything I heard from them, except for Elevation, has been boring....

JumpingKentFlash

Bjornulf

The Edge's daughter has leukaemia..which was the reason they postponed the start of their US tour last spring and also the Aussie dates a few months ago.

If someone chooses to announce a cancellation/postponement for 'private or health reasons', then thats reasonable and it doesnt need to be scrutinised.

The Stones, didnt give ANY reason for changing their mind about rescheduling certain shows. Thats the difference. Had they done so and stated health reasons or something, no one would have any justification for complaint. We've agreed on here before that it was handled badly from their angle in PR terms.

Your remark about shows next year sounds intriguing and promising. I hope youre right. Thing is, one sentence on their website along the lines of "we intend to return to Europe next year and make up for the inconvenience" is IMO all they needed to say at this point. I mean this as a compliment, but their vast fanbase shouldnt have to rely on guys like yourself dropping hints that they'll do the right thing, after all. Their own website and publicists should have done that job a couple of months ago.



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JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Hanns Rainsch Wrote:
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> -----
> > Why do we always bash on U2.
> > They are a nice band, have great songs and they
> > are the only band that is up with the Stones in
> > terms of popularity and money.
> > I like U2, maybe not all of Bono's stuff.
>
>
> I don't like U2.
> They don't have good songs. It's 100% rainbow
> hugger.
> They are as popular, if not more popula than the
> Stones, but that doesn't mean that it's good.
> Everything I heard from them, except for
> Elevation, has been boring....


Liking them/disliking them is totally irrelevant to the topic. Its not about that, yet it always descends into that. the issue is that they handled their postponements well and did so honourably.

U2 sucks ,they are the most overrated band in historty followed buy Nirvana,Guns an Roses,and Pearl Jam,I respest there ability to be boring year after year,only okay songs IMO,New Years Day and Bullet to Blue Sky,the only reason I like those songs is they are more Rock and Roll...the rest, just not my taste....

Bottom line is Bono and his band of merry men had to pospone shows due to a family member's illness.
The shows have since been rescheduled, and their fanbase has been kept informed with the relevant information.
They respect their fanbase

Gazza Wrote:
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> JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hanns Rainsch Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why do we always bash on U2.
> > > They are a nice band, have great songs and
> they
> > > are the only band that is up with the Stones
> in
> > > terms of popularity and money.
> > > I like U2, maybe not all of Bono's stuff.
> >
> >
> > I don't like U2.
> > They don't have good songs. It's 100% rainbow
> > hugger.
> > They are as popular, if not more popula than
> the
> > Stones, but that doesn't mean that it's good.
> > Everything I heard from them, except for
> > Elevation, has been boring....
>
>
> Liking them/disliking them is totally irrelevant
> to the topic. Its not about that, yet it always
> descends into that. the issue is that they handled
> their postponements well and did so honourably.


It is tottally off the topic, but Hanns asked and I just answered. I didn't take a stand on the topic...

JumpingKentFlash

Let's get to he point here:

Someone tell me the use of this topic. There is rumours the Stones will do the cancelled gigs.

This message is something you should direct to the band, not to their fans.

bv Wrote:
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> The Stones should do like U2:
>
> - 4 guys on stage only
> - 50% playback
> - 20% political statements
>
> May be.. Or may be not?


I agree with the first and last statement but the second one is simply not true!
They have an additional keyboard player who is playing a long with them. The only differents is that he is not on stage but below the stage. The differents between the stones and u2 in this matter is simple. The stones have always had a piano player (Stu) or sax players on stage from the beginning and it has always been a big part of there music. The keyboard in u2's music came a long during the Achtung period where a lot of songs had some sort of keyboard on it. Now, because they, for ten years, never had anybody up there on stage they didn't do it since achtung baby because everybody was used to seeing just the four of them.

So in conclusion, U2 has four guys up on stage and one additional player backstage, the stones have five guys up on stage and eight additional players up on stage (in the beginning of the concerts the back up singers are singing backstage). I don't mind both situations but please, do not bash U2 for adding one player to the formation.


ps. if you talk about playback tapes, Sympathie for the Devil...

Cheers,
Wuudy



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curtisdavis Wrote:
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> U2 sucks ,they are the most overrated band in
> historty followed buy Nirvana,Guns an Roses,and
> Pearl Jam,I respest there ability to be boring
> year after year,only okay songs IMO,New Years Day
> and Bullet to Blue Sky,the only reason I like
> those songs is they are more Rock and Roll...the
> rest, just not my taste....

Again this is how they handled their postponements.
And as was said here before, they did so honourably..

How U2 is as a band and how the song are, that is up too each and everyone to decide on there own.

Everyone knows things happen in life that we can't forsee,for instance,I had no idea U2 was touring,canceled or whatever,I don't think there are in the same class as the Stones,I have read everyones opinions on this thread,and that is all they are,OPINIONS...I really hope the Stones go back to Europe,not for the music,but to shut all the whiners up on this board.

U2 had probably not made reservation for lots of stadiums in US in november / december

Well, the Stones use very little playback on Sympathy, just those drums.
Playbacks have a huge part in a U2 show.


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

Mick Jagger : "Last night I saw him (Bono) walking on water !"
(Dublin, 1999)

Both are great bands and that`s it !

bv Wrote:
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> The Stones should do like U2:
>
> - 4 guys on stage only
amen