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disgrace at graceland
Posted by: roundnround ()
Date: July 1, 2006 00:40

speaking of elvis, can anyone post the stones version of hound dog, from the 78 concert in memphis? also chantilly lace from 82 tour... thanks...


Bush and Japan's Koizumi Tour Graceland
Trip Is Gesture of Friendship for Ardent Defender of President
By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP

WASHINGTON (June 30) -- With an in-flight airing of Elvis Presley's greatest hits and an offering of his favored grilled fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches, President Bush brought Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi South Friday to see Graceland.

DVDs of Elvis' movies were available aboard Air Force One, and White House press secretary Tony Snow sported gold-rimmed plastic sunglasses for the flight to Memphis, unarguably Koizumi's highlight of the week.

The Bush-Koizumi tour through the late rock 'n' roll legend's mansion was wrapping up two days of consultations. His visit saw military pomp, the tinkling of crystal at a black-tie dinner and two hours of discussions on Iraq, North Korea, U.S. beef exports and other weighty matters in the Oval Office.

But their outing to the home of Koizumi's undisputed musical hero, with its oddity quotient and celebrity patina, was the most-anticipated portion.

Swiveling hips, spangled jumpsuits and over-the-top decor aren't Bush's usual style. And this is a president who routinely skips even the most awe-inspiring destinations on his speed-travels -- such as India's Taj Mahal.

So it's a sign of his fondness for the Japanese leader that Bush took Koizumi to a tourist hotspot, and by plane, no less, five years to the day after they first met. Aides said the president decided a Graceland tour was the perfect way, along with a gift of a jukebox loaded with Elvis hits, to bid adieu to a leader who is departing office in September after being one of his most ardent defenders on the world stage.

Bush revealed his excitement about the day's travels as he drew the formal dinner he threw for Koizumi at the White House to a close at 10:10 p.m. Thursday night. "Off to Graceland," the president said.

Things got campy right off as the leaders flew to Memphis Friday morning on Air Force One.

The public address system played "Love Me Tender" and "Don't Be Cruel" and other Elvis songs and Air Force stewards brought out that Elvis culinary favorite -- grilled peanut butter and banana sandwiches, each with 36 grams of fat. The two leaders passed on the sandwiches. Bush drank coffee and Koizumi drank green tea.

"I'm feeling a little heavy," groaned White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten, one of the few presidential aides who braved the breakfast treat. "I so rarely fry my peanut butter sandwiches."

Snow did his best to fuel lingering conspiracy theories that Elvis never died, saying that Bush and Koizumi were likely to go to Elvis' "alleged grave site." In fact, Graceland spokesman David Beckwith said the "meditation garden" near the swimming pool where Elvis is buried was the chosen place for the two allies to have some "private time."

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: July 1, 2006 00:52

When Elvis finds out that all these people had been wandering around his house whilst he was on holiday...he's going to be very cross!

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: July 1, 2006 00:57

...then again, even though I have big respect for Elvis...he was faithful to the presidents, perhaps he would have been in 2006 too, if he lived.
(BTW, I didn't know that "Snow" was a name....I thought I was the 1st one)

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: July 1, 2006 01:09

yeah Tony Snow is the new ass clown, I mean press secratery for the white house. He used to be an anchorman on FOX news. um...conflict of interst?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-07-01 01:27 by ryanpow.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Jed Clever ()
Date: July 1, 2006 01:18

Don't forget that Elvis went to the White House and was personally sworn in as an honorary Federal Narcotics Agent by Richard Milhouse Nixon. Elvis was said to be loaded on uppers and downers at the time....

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Thru and Thru ()
Date: July 1, 2006 01:43

What disgrace? I think this is the coolest thing Bush could've done for Koizumi, he's the huge Elvis fan, not Bush!

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: July 1, 2006 02:04

....and even if Bush was an Elvis fan, I think it's good that he goes to Graceland. Everybody needs water, shelter and Elvis, no-matter what they have done. It is called humanrights.....let's forget about politics for a short minute, while Elvis is on the jukebox.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: July 1, 2006 02:09

ahh. never mind. bad taste.



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Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Debra ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:00

Elvis must be FLIPPING in his grave!!! Some fools.....BUSH.....will do ANYTHING for media attention! Wonder what stupid quip he'll come out with.. I just can't wait to hear the insipid phrase, of course not written by the idiot himself!

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Jan Richards ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:07

Did ya know. Elvis was the greatest PR stunt ever. Imagine, 100 million or so people think that Elvis had something to do with rock music.... huhhh. he did not do anything to develope rock music, he just sang other peoples songs....
There is only one king of rock and that is mr Chuck Berry (well copying Mr Elmor James that is....)
But Elvis..... huhhu, fat joke of the 70'ssmiling smiley

Jan Richards

[www.stonesondecca.com]

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:12

Now go to sleep, Mr. Richards!
Please lay off ma Elvis...
I'd rather hear a hundred 'alf-'earted Elvis-tunes,
than one of that ADHD Berry. LO)

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Jan Richards ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:13

Berry did his own music, Presly did other peoples music....

Jan Richards

[www.stonesondecca.com]

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:14

For a starter. But from 1968 till the very end Presley was superior.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Jan Richards ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:19

Nah... someone just bought him a leather suit and a guitar. By then Hendrix, Stones, Doors and yes.... The Four Headed Monster From Liverpool dominated the market....
Elvis was outdated by 1968 and was just heading for Vegas... Biggest PR stunt of the last century, all categories counted, even Coca Cola

Jan Richards

[www.stonesondecca.com]

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:31

Ridiculous, Jan... Ya better get back 'n' listen to yer Elvis from late 60s till early 70s... I envy ya... Still much more to discover...... The BEST period......

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Jan Richards ()
Date: July 1, 2006 03:34

I have already but did not understand the stuff he did then.. still The Greatest PR stunt of all time.

Jan Richards

[www.stonesondecca.com]

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: July 1, 2006 04:17

Jan Richards Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did ya know. Elvis was the greatest PR stunt ever.
> Imagine, 100 million or so people think that Elvis
> had something to do with rock music.... huhhh. he
> did not do anything to develope rock music, he
> just sang other peoples songs....
> There is only one king of rock and that is mr
> Chuck Berry (well copying Mr Elmor James that
> is....)
> But Elvis..... huhhu, fat joke of the 70'ssmiling smiley

Elvis had nothing to do with rock music?
Do you know what you're saying?
You better play his Sun recordings again, my friend.
I have heard your argument before, though.
"Since Elvis didn't write, he's not really an artist."
Well, Sinatra didn't write. NOr did Bing Crosby.
Nor did Caruso. I don't think Pavarotti writes.
Sorry, but they ARE artists. I'd like to see you go up to
a classical musicaian and say to them that they're not an artist.
I'd rather listen to Bing Crosby than, say, Jackson Browne who writes
his own material. He is a writer, say you.

BTW: I dodn't know Ted Kennedy and George Galloway
went to Graceland today.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-07-01 04:19 by tomk.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: scelsa ()
Date: July 1, 2006 04:51

Ass-wipes you all. Get over it! Bush is the MAN. Voted in by the true majority of us conservatives. I just love the wasted frenzy!

HAHAHAH.

Al Gore - whoooooooooooooooo. Yep, thank God (oh, am I allowed to sya "God"?????) he invented the internet and now is BS-ing this crap about he globe. What an idiot,

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: July 1, 2006 10:22

I hope Elvis rises from his grave and plants a blue suede shoe squarely up Bush's ass.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: JoeHill ()
Date: July 1, 2006 11:28

Are y'all crazy? This trip had nothing to do with Bush...

Koizumi has been the coolest leader of Japan in a long, long, long time...

Japenese leader have historically been extremely boring and stuffy..

this guy has re-engizered the Japenese Youth..compared to Bill Clinton..Bush was cool enough to recognize this and this guy is nutty and fun - a fresh new generation for Japan.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: nikkibong ()
Date: July 1, 2006 11:51

JoeHill Wrote:
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> Are y'all crazy? This trip had nothing to do with
> Bush...
>
> Koizumi has been the coolest leader of Japan in a
> long, long, long time...
>

er, you tell that to the Chinese and Korean populations that he continually insults by whitewashing Japanese imperials crimes of the past. yes, his hair is cool: he's not.

also, a mere suggestion: why not name the thread 'Disgraceland.' more clever IMCO.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: July 1, 2006 12:30

Graceland is a disgrace.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: July 1, 2006 13:16

Jan Richards Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did ya know. Elvis was the greatest PR stunt ever.
> Imagine, 100 million or so people think that Elvis
> had something to do with rock music.... huhhh. he
> did not do anything to develope rock music, he
> just sang other peoples songs....
> There is only one king of rock and that is mr
> Chuck Berry (well copying Mr Elmor James that
> is....)
> But Elvis..... huhhu, fat joke of the 70'ssmiling smiley

That's really silly. You probably would say that James Dean and Jack Nicholson are fake posers, because they didn't write the script themselves.
You don't have to have all the ingredients (songwriter, guitarplayer, good looks, good political stands etc etc) to be a great artist.
And when Elvis hit big time in the mid 50s, he made the common man absolutely shocked by his "vulgar and wild" moves and songs. He was a real rebel,
and even though he didn't keep on rebelling, it doesn't make him silly.
The Rolling Stones stopped being rebels many many years ago.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: July 1, 2006 13:28

Erik_Snow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Jan Richards Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did ya know. Elvis was the greatest PR stunt
> ever.
> > Imagine, 100 million or so people think that
> Elvis
> > had something to do with rock music.... huhhh.
> he
> > did not do anything to develope rock music, he
> > just sang other peoples songs....
> > There is only one king of rock and that is mr
> > Chuck Berry (well copying Mr Elmor James that
> > is....)
> > But Elvis..... huhhu, fat joke of the 70'ssmiling smiley
>
> That's really silly. You probably would say that
> James Dean and Jack Nicholson are fake posers,
> because they didn't write the script themselves.
> You don't have to have all the ingredients
> (songwriter, guitarplayer, good looks, good
> political stands etc etc) to be a great artist.
> And when Elvis hit big time in the mid 50s, he
> made the common man absolutely shocked by his
> "vulgar and wild" moves and songs. He was a real
> rebel,
> and even though he didn't keep on rebelling, it
> doesn't make him silly.
> The Rolling Stones stopped being rebels many many
> years ago.

Very well said, I concur.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: July 1, 2006 13:36

nikkibong Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> er, you tell that to the Chinese and Korean
> populations that he continually insults by
> whitewashing Japanese imperials crimes of the
> past.

Agreed. Not to mention whitewashing U.S. war crimes of the moment with his support for the current U.S. administration.


>yes, his hair is cool: he's not.

Post of the week! (This condition is also known as "Rod Stewart syndrome.")


> also, a mere suggestion: why not name the thread
> 'Disgraceland.' more clever IMCO.

I thought the same thing. Maybe he is disinclined, or got disconnected. Perhaps he is just discombobulated. But, hey, I'm not trying to dis him.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: July 1, 2006 13:38

Elvis gave so much.....yeah so much soul...what a voice...I still cant believe it...listen to ''Elvis in Menphis'''what an album!!!Any day now...the most heartbreaking soul I ever heard.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: July 1, 2006 14:09

Erik_Snow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Jan Richards Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did ya know. Elvis was the greatest PR stunt
> ever.
> > Imagine, 100 million or so people think that
> Elvis
> > had something to do with rock music.... huhhh.
> he
> > did not do anything to develope rock music, he
> > just sang other peoples songs....
> > There is only one king of rock and that is mr
> > Chuck Berry (well copying Mr Elmor James that
> > is....)
> > But Elvis..... huhhu, fat joke of the 70'ssmiling smiley
>
> That's really silly. You probably would say that
> James Dean and Jack Nicholson are fake posers,
> because they didn't write the script themselves.
> You don't have to have all the ingredients
> (songwriter, guitarplayer, good looks, good
> political stands etc etc) to be a great artist.
> And when Elvis hit big time in the mid 50s, he
> made the common man absolutely shocked by his
> "vulgar and wild" moves and songs. He was a real
> rebel,
> and even though he didn't keep on rebelling, it
> doesn't make him silly.
> The Rolling Stones stopped being rebels many many
> years ago.

I agree 100% with Snow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-07-01 14:10 by rooster.

Re: disgrace at graceland
Posted by: otonneau ()
Date: July 1, 2006 15:31

I like Elvis, he's fun - but I partly agree with Jan on that one. The point is not that he didn't write his songs, but that honestly, he did not raise them from their original form at all. Only made them more slick and inoffensive. Oh, and Elvis recording the most heart breaking soul? Ca-mon.... Irma Thomas, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke the semi-god... Aretha... all these cats leave Elvis light years behind, especially if we're talking slow songs.

I like Elvis OK, just like the first Stones albums - but hardly ever listen to either one or the other, because why listen to them when I have the originals who are so much better?

So there is a sense in which Elvis is a PR stunt. And it's an economic fact that Elvis + british blues boom were highly detrimental to the originals.

Mind you, he had not much to do with it, what could HE do? Loved that music, he sung it and became a star - good for him. Anyway, I don't think he was that smart and would not have expected him to do anything to counter-balance the fact that his records were in fact selling instead of all the original ones.



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